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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Finally, close to 30 linebackers will be selected over the two-day draft period and most will contribute on special teams and back up existing starters in the NFL. After the selection of Derrick Johnson, I don't believe this draft has ...
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04-15-2005, 05:37 PM | #1 |
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Linebackers just ain't looking too good in the draft!
I am dead-set against taking any LB in the draft with our first pick. Unless it's Derrick Jonhson. Fogetaboutit!! |
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04-15-2005, 05:50 PM | #2 |
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Linebackers just ain't looking too good in the draft!
1st round LB\'s I\'d take (if we stay at 16).
1. Derrick Johnson 2. Thomas Davis 3. Shawn Merriman (if he was BPA) 4. Darryl Blackstock 5. Demarcus Ware (if he was BPA) LB\'s I\'d gladly take in the 2nd round (at 40) 1. Ruud (I\'d wet me-self) 2. Burnett 3. Crowder 4. Thurman 5. Morrison 6. Boley (But I\'m iffy on him) 3rd rounders Too many to mention all. I do like what I hear about Adam Seward (UNLV), Lance Mitchell (OU) and Rian Wallace (Temple). They be OK with me in the 3rd among a bunch of others. |
04-15-2005, 05:56 PM | #3 |
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It appears to me that any LB after Derrick Johnson would be a reach in the FIRST round and you could probably get one with as much talent in the 2nd round. Point me in the right direction, Danno. I really don\'t know. |
04-15-2005, 06:07 PM | #4 |
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Some draft expert on ESPN (Mike and Mike I think) pointed out that every year or so people claim this year is a weak draft for this position or that position, and time proves them wrong over and over again. There are a ton of \"quality\" LB\'s to be had in the 2nd/3rd round. Many will become excellent players in this league. If we draft two we just doubled our chances of landing one of them. I\'m hearing various rumblings about DJ not being so hot either. Who knows? |
04-15-2005, 06:15 PM | #5 |
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Linebackers just ain't looking too good in the draft!
Since the draft is next weekend .. I thought I\'d start doing my homework. I\'ve pretty much avoided all of the draft threads and haven\'t read too many articles either.
After reading the article by Pat Kirwan (who I respect as much as anyone) I don\'t think we should select LB in round 1. There\'s \"value\" and then there\'s \"need\". We need quality players. No use in reaching with the 16th pick. We have many other needs besides LB. Like OT. Or even TE. Or safety. I\'ll take the safe bet before reaching for a LB. My 2-cents. |
04-15-2005, 06:25 PM | #6 |
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Linebackers just ain't looking too good in the draft!
Gumbo, I agree with you. Danno covered all the LBs that might warrant first round grades. Merriman I dont think will be around when we pick. Ware is too much of a tweener for my liking. I think Blackstock will fall to possibly the second. Im OK with Davis because if he doesnt pan out at LB, he could be Jay Bellamy\'s replacement at SS. But other than that I would have to agree. I would reach for Johnson, take Merriman if he fell to us(I think his athletic ability will allow him to play in the 4-3), and maybe take the chance on Davis. I say wait around and grab Burnett or Rudd later on. One week and we\'ll find out.
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04-16-2005, 02:07 AM | #7 |
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I have no idea how anyonne can say that T Davis is a reach in the first??????
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04-16-2005, 02:35 AM | #8 |
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Linebackers just ain't looking too good in the draft!
Alex Smith is the pick in the first , if he drops grab him .....
Crowder - trade up and nail him early second if he is still on the board , he knows how to open a can of whoop ass .... • ILB Channing Crowder (Florida) Vital statistics: 6 foot 2¼, 245 pounds, 4.67 in the 40. Numbers game: Played mostly at tailback in high school and delayed enrollment at Florida while he rehabilitated a knee injury. Played in 20 games and started 17 of them, recording 179 tackles, 13½ tackles for loss, four sacks, one pressure, two forced fumbles, three recoveries and an interception. Voted a team captain as a sophomore. Was an all-SEC choice in 2004. Was twice suspended, one game on each occasion, for scrapes with the law. Upside: Has an undeniable swagger to him. Plays with a sense of urgency. Vocal on the field and just a naturally intense defender. Cuts through the traffic to get to the ball and, when he arrives, is an explosive hitter. Tries to de-cleat the ball carrier every chance he gets. Fancies himself an intimidator and, at times, certainly fills the role. Sheds nicely, really uses his hands well, strong enough to slap blockers away. Makes plays outside the box and can get out on the edge. Has some rush ability and times his blitzes well. Downside: Not as fluid as you want, especially through the hips, and falls into the habit of not breaking down into a textbook football position. Sometimes allows his emotions to take over and will play out of control and with a lack of discipline. Got away with some freelancing in college that won\'t cut it at the next level. Has had knee problems and some off-field issues that could be a factor. The dish: Teams are looking hard at his character and examining some of the off-field incidents in which he was involved, but seem almost as concerned with his knees. Might still sneak into the bottom of the first round, depending on individual teams, but could just as easily slip into the third round. |
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04-16-2005, 04:58 AM | #9 |
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04-16-2005, 05:19 AM | #10 |
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Linebackers just ain't looking too good in the draft!
The draft is fine, when lookin to merely upgrade or build depth. When it comes to a glaring need, I prefer a proven FA. Too many rookies never pan out. Haz claimed no LBs were available, but I was dissapointed to see Spikes & others flee their squads. I didn\'t even hear of us inquiring about Spikes. He went to the Pro Bowl.
Besides DJ, I don\'t see any LB that will help Haz keep his job. I\'m not sure this team can handle another possible suspect character like Crowder. We have enough knuckle heads. I admire how the Vikes went after their needs in the secondary, while still having two #1s. We\'ve been needing LBs for far too long. |
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