Let's make one side of the ball dominant?!

no_cloning · 04-16-2005, 05:09 PM

Draft the best player available among the need positions - maybe that\'s what you\'re saying?
Very hard to get excited about defensive players that will be available when we pick. If a trade for DJ is unsuccessful and Brown is there - take him.

The Saints with Brooks under center will never be a truly dominant team. Just too unpredictable, unlike the two teams that come to mind where it pretty much works/worked - the Colts and the Rams. Warner and Manning play/ed at a constantly high level with a support cast that\'s better than what the Saints have now.
The point is: Who makes your team better? Who gives you the best chance to win, this year and the following years? Draft that player, never mind if he plays offense or defense.

GumboBC · 04-16-2005, 05:13 PM

Draft the best player available among the need positions - maybe that\'s what you\'re saying?

That\'s exactly what I\'m saying.

I do not believe in drafting the \"best avaliable player.\"

But I do believe in drafting the \"best avaliable player\" based on NEED!

For instance ... if the \"best avaliable player\" is a DE, we should not sign him ...

Jimnthetwins · 04-16-2005, 10:15 PM

How would you all feel about the Saints trading Howard and the 16th pick to Tennessee for the 6th and their third? I like the idea.

GoldenTomb · 04-17-2005, 12:03 PM

How would you all feel about the Saints trading Howard and the 16th pick to Tennessee for the 6th and their third? I like the idea.

I\'m pretty sure that\'s not enough. Plus, they probably don\'t even want a high priced player like Howard. I think the only way a trade will work for Tenn is if we get a second for Howard, then trade that second plus our first for the #6.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 04-17-2005, 12:33 PM

How would you all feel about the Saints trading Howard and the 16th pick to Tennessee for the 6th and their third? I like the idea.

Well I\'d feel like I\'d have to stop for a minute and figure out exactly what it was that I was smoking.

Can anyone name the last time a DE was traded for a 1st and a 3rd in the same draft? Three players considered best of their generation have been traded in the last 2 years (Moss, Owens, Dillon) and none of the three were traded for a 1st round pick, much less a 1st and a 3rd.

Tennesee dumped all of their high priced talent. Howard wants a $35 mil deal with a $16 mil bonus.

I\'d feel like I was smoking some really good stuff. I\'d want to share.

SFIAH

FireVenturi · 04-17-2005, 12:40 PM

Defense wins championships. I think an O can struggle, but if u have a dominant D you can win a championship. See tampa and the ravens

Agreed!!

But I still think some are missing the point.

All I\'m saying is IF we canNOT get an IMPACT MLB or DT, then I think we should address the OT position in the first round. That is if one is left on the board that is worthy.

That way the offensive line is now a strong unit and we can draft a LB in the 2nd.

I get it!!!!Agreed!

GoldenTomb · 04-17-2005, 12:50 PM

How would you all feel about the Saints trading Howard and the 16th pick to Tennessee for the 6th and their third? I like the idea.

Well I\'d feel like I\'d have to stop for a minute and figure out exactly what it was that I was smoking.

Can anyone name the last time a DE was traded for a 1st and a 3rd in the same draft? Three players considered best of their generation have been traded in the last 2 years (Moss, Owens, Dillon) and none of the three were traded for a 1st round pick, much less a 1st and a 3rd.

Tennesee dumped all of their high priced talent. Howard wants a $35 mil deal with a $16 mil bonus.

I\'d feel like I was smoking some really good stuff. I\'d want to share.

SFIAH

Actually, a first was included in the trade for Moss, but point still taken.

04-16-2005, 05:09 PM	#11
no_cloning 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 249	Let's make one side of the ball dominant?! Draft the best player available among the need positions - maybe that\'s what you\'re saying? Very hard to get excited about defensive players that will be available when we pick. If a trade for DJ is unsuccessful and Brown is there - take him. The Saints with Brooks under center will never be a truly dominant team. Just too unpredictable, unlike the two teams that come to mind where it pretty much works/worked - the Colts and the Rams. Warner and Manning play/ed at a constantly high level with a support cast that\'s better than what the Saints have now. The point is: Who makes your team better? Who gives you the best chance to win, this year and the following years? Draft that player, never mind if he plays offense or defense.
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04-16-2005, 05:13 PM	#12
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Let's make one side of the ball dominant?! Draft the best player available among the need positions - maybe that\'s what you\'re saying? That\'s exactly what I\'m saying. I do not believe in drafting the \"best avaliable player.\" But I do believe in drafting the \"best avaliable player\" based on NEED! For instance ... if the \"best avaliable player\" is a DE, we should not sign him ...
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Jimnthetwins Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 15	Let's make one side of the ball dominant?! How would you all feel about the Saints trading Howard and the 16th pick to Tennessee for the 6th and their third? I like the idea.
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GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	Let's make one side of the ball dominant?! How would you all feel about the Saints trading Howard and the 16th pick to Tennessee for the 6th and their third? I like the idea. I\'m pretty sure that\'s not enough. Plus, they probably don\'t even want a high priced player like Howard. I think the only way a trade will work for Tenn is if we get a second for Howard, then trade that second plus our first for the #6.
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04-17-2005, 12:33 PM	#15
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Let's make one side of the ball dominant?! How would you all feel about the Saints trading Howard and the 16th pick to Tennessee for the 6th and their third? I like the idea. Well I\'d feel like I\'d have to stop for a minute and figure out exactly what it was that I was smoking. Can anyone name the last time a DE was traded for a 1st and a 3rd in the same draft? Three players considered best of their generation have been traded in the last 2 years (Moss, Owens, Dillon) and none of the three were traded for a 1st round pick, much less a 1st and a 3rd. Tennesee dumped all of their high priced talent. Howard wants a $35 mil deal with a $16 mil bonus. I\'d feel like I was smoking some really good stuff. I\'d want to share. SFIAH
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04-17-2005, 12:40 PM	#16
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Let's make one side of the ball dominant?! Defense wins championships. I think an O can struggle, but if u have a dominant D you can win a championship. See tampa and the ravens Agreed!! But I still think some are missing the point. All I\'m saying is IF we canNOT get an IMPACT MLB or DT, then I think we should address the OT position in the first round. That is if one is left on the board that is worthy. That way the offensive line is now a strong unit and we can draft a LB in the 2nd. I get it!!!!Agreed!

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GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	Let's make one side of the ball dominant?! How would you all feel about the Saints trading Howard and the 16th pick to Tennessee for the 6th and their third? I like the idea. Well I\'d feel like I\'d have to stop for a minute and figure out exactly what it was that I was smoking. Can anyone name the last time a DE was traded for a 1st and a 3rd in the same draft? Three players considered best of their generation have been traded in the last 2 years (Moss, Owens, Dillon) and none of the three were traded for a 1st round pick, much less a 1st and a 3rd. Tennesee dumped all of their high priced talent. Howard wants a $35 mil deal with a $16 mil bonus. I\'d feel like I was smoking some really good stuff. I\'d want to share. SFIAH Actually, a first was included in the trade for Moss, but point still taken.
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