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leilung 12-11-2017 12:15 PM

Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night
 
Aside for one drive in the Redskins game, our TE play has been nothing short of dismal.

SP abandoning the run after Kamara's injury hurt us. Pass first is no longer who we are.

SP is in a heavy bromance with the Screen Pass.

Snead is showing glimmers of what was and Drew needs him as a viable weapon. Without strong TE play, we need our slot WR to gash the soft LB play we've been seeing.

I'm impressed with the depth of our roster stepping up and being competitive, in spite of the massive number of injuries on Thursday Nite.

The Dude 12-11-2017 01:23 PM

Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night
 
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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 781352)
That's because we hardly have any talent at WR. And we definitely don't have a Tight End who can catch the ball. Even Fleener, when he played, was average at catching at best. Sorry but these wide receivers simply don't get open.

Fortunately we found a running game and have an o-ilne that can run block. The o-line doesn't pass block so well.

You can blame Brees all you want, but sorry the Rams game was a team loss and so was tonight. Remember, the Falcons strong point this season is their defense.

I agree. The lack of a receiving threat and speedster hurts him. In the past he’s had the ability to make average receivers with minimal talent look great. He’s at the point now where he needs a playmaker who can stretch out and make those catches that may be off. He needs a receiver that makes him better. I think they thought Ginn and Snead could get it done but they aren’t quite there. A true number one receiver to go opposite of Thomas may be smart in the draft. We have more depth than I realized elsewhere. Fill in the offensive line, Lb, and DE in later rounds.
They obviously expected more out of Fleener. A TE would go a long way.

turbo_dog 12-11-2017 04:31 PM

Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 781829)
I agree. The lack of a receiving threat and speedster hurts him. In the past he’s had the ability to make average receivers with minimal talent look great. He’s at the point now where he needs a playmaker who can stretch out and make those catches that may be off. He needs a receiver that makes him better. I think they thought Ginn and Snead could get it done but they aren’t quite there. A true number one receiver to go opposite of Thomas may be smart in the draft. We have more depth than I realized elsewhere. Fill in the offensive line, Lb, and DE in later rounds.
They obviously expected more out of Fleener. A TE would go a long way.

I don't know, Dude. Thomas is a true number one receiver, and Ginn has done MORE than I expected from him this season. I am surprised by the lack of looks Snead has gotten since he came back, but I think that's just a product of the running game being so strong. As far as TE, I totally agree! This year it has been our weakest position, and it's not even close.

Rugby Saint II 12-11-2017 04:49 PM

Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night
 
We learned that the referees don't want a small-market team to win. Screw Roger Goodelle!

Rell&Gold 12-11-2017 08:05 PM

Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night
 
Ted Ginn has been okay....we need another Above average posession WR. MT, (Missing Piece), Coleman, let Snead and Ginn battle ot out. Drew has missed on some throws but there has been poor seperation by the Saints WR's as well. I would solely blame Brees if we had an Elite or above average WR corp but, thats not the case. If we had the Bucs or the Falcons WR corp I could totally understand the Drew blame because those are some talented groups there and they should be producing at a high level. When in actuality our WR outside of MT is mediocre at best. Feel like our WR corp is another reason Payton chose to go run heavy this year. I myself was furious with Drew over that throw but, It wasnt that bad of a throw honestly a forces throw as far as the choice goes. He tried to make a play can never be mad at that because he CAN and has made that throw before. Those other two defenders were non-factors he let the ball get to far inside. This O-line has been VERY shaky this year also. Saints get healthy tighten up whatever is loose and lets get on a good roll headed into the playoffs with 3-game winning streak. And continue that habit all way up until after the Superbowl.

K Major 12-11-2017 09:20 PM

Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night
 
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 781868)
Ted Ginn has been okay....we need another Above average posession WR. MT, (Missing Piece), Coleman, let Snead and Ginn battle ot out. Drew has missed on some throws but there has been poor seperation by the Saints WR's as well.

Jarvis Landry could solve that. My LSU homer glasses are off ... he's a really good WR at the NFL level.

st thomas 12-11-2017 09:32 PM

Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night
 
If y’all didn’t hear d.jones after game says we new the call was to te over middle of that don’t tell u Payton is predictable fu$k the rest

Rell&Gold 12-11-2017 10:06 PM

Re: What we learned from our loss on Thursday night
 
That doesnt make Payton predictable, just means the Falcons have one hell of Linebacker.


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