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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; [QUOTE=Halo;781289]I hated the call from Payton - that pass was designed for Jimmy Graham to the tight end. Hill is NO Jimmy Graham. He's supposed to go up and wrestle for the pass. Either it's a PI or a catch.[/QUOTE ...

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Old 12-08-2017, 09:25 AM   #21
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Re: 1st and goal 1:43 left

[QUOTE=Halo;781289]I hated the call from Payton - that pass was designed for Jimmy Graham to the tight end. Hill is NO Jimmy Graham. He's supposed to go up and wrestle for the pass. Either it's a PI or a catch.[/QUOTE

Gotta get inside of the defender and yes. If Hill cant catch it he should take Jones head off. Take the penalty. Kick the field goal. Deion Jones was everywhere. I dont think he started until his senior year and he was never a standout at LSU. Jesuit LB, LSU LB. He should be a Saint. Could we use a great cover 4.3 40 LB? He put Kmara out the game and caught the winning interception. Give him the game ball and well see him in two weeks in the dome.
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Old 12-09-2017, 05:06 PM   #22
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How is this not illegal contact on the failclowns?

The refs had to have made a group decision to not flag the failclowns for a single defensive penalty!
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Old 12-09-2017, 05:25 PM   #23
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How is this not illegal contact on the failclowns?

The refs had to have made a group decision to not flag the failclowns for a single defensive penalty!
Naw, good no call. Incidental contact by BOTH playing the football. There wasn't any obvious grabbing, jersey pulls etc. By the definition of the NFL rule book, there was nothing there to flag.

If anything, Josh needed to make a better attempt to go get the football or take it away from Jones. You're 6'5 man.
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Old 12-09-2017, 05:26 PM   #24
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Here is a GIF of that play ...

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Old 12-09-2017, 05:50 PM   #25
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Naw, good no call. Incidental contact by BOTH playing the football. There wasn't any obvious grabbing, jersey pulls etc. By the definition of the NFL rule book, there was nothing there to flag.

If anything, Josh needed to make a better attempt to go get the football or take it away from Jones. You're 6'5 man.
Josh Hill is terrible, but the placement of the ball by Brees was pathetic.

If you throw that pass, you make it a back shoulder, either Hill catches it or no one does. Brees made it look like Jones was the intended receiver.

Ingram was wide open too.

Just rewatched the game, besides the opening 7 points of the second half after Banjo's pick, Brees and the offense should be ashamed of themselves. They did nothing for 29 mins, came alive in the final minute and fell short. Brees couldn't string a pass together the entire second half.

I hope we win out, because we could be forced out of the playoff race if we keep splitting wins/losses.

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Old 12-09-2017, 07:05 PM   #26
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Josh Hill is terrible, but the placement of the ball by Brees was pathetic.
Knowing Brees, Josh Hill's placement was the problem. That ball looked to be in the right spot. Hill let the falcon player push him ever so gently and out of position. Watch the replay.
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Old 12-09-2017, 07:12 PM   #27
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Knowing Brees, Josh Hill's placement was the problem. That ball looked to be in the right spot. Hill let the falcon player push him ever so gently and out of position. Watch the replay.
I say this with all the respect in the world dude, but people have to stop acting like Brees can do no wrong. Brees and Payton got greedy, they went flashy instead of smart and got burned.

As for the replay, I haven't stopped watching it, Brees has to realise that Josh Hill in no way is on the same level as Deion Jones.

Brees tested Jones last year and ended up throwing a 95 yard Pick 6 to him.
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Old 12-09-2017, 08:38 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
I say this with all the respect in the world dude, but people have to stop acting like Brees can do no wrong. Brees and Payton got greedy, they went flashy instead of smart and got burned.

As for the replay, I haven't stopped watching it, Brees has to realise that Josh Hill in no way is on the same level as Deion Jones.

Brees tested Jones last year and ended up throwing a 95 yard Pick 6 to him.
Respect to you too man. I'm not arguing that it was a bad play call and that it was a bad decision by Drew. I think Sean figured his D had no shot if they had to get back on the field. We went for broke. Sean plays that way. He won a super bowl doing it. Sometimes he gets a little loopy.

My point was that it wasn't such a horrible throw as it was a horrible decision. Hill isn't Graham. And it does look like had Hill not allowed himself to get pushed back he would have been in position to make the play.
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Old 12-09-2017, 08:41 PM   #29
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Run the ball three times
Run out clock

Get td running
Or take the field goal

Payton is too "put the dagger in" greedy instead of smart
So you would trust our winded defense to win it in OT while the rest of the team has been headed to the locker room with injuries all game?

Right call to go for the kill. Stupid call throwing it where it was thrown. It happens.
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Old 12-09-2017, 08:44 PM   #30
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Looking at the replay isn’t there a little bit of interference there? 1000 bucks says we would have been flagged for it.
Looking again maybe more of a hold.
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