Saints fans sues over protests

burningmetal · 12-13-2017, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

They should give him his money back and tell him and his family that he is banned from all future Saints game.

You're right, they SHOULD do that. Then maybe it will anger more fans and let this organization get an early taste of what the future will be like for them, with no fan support.

You can dislike people like this guy, or me, all you want for our stance on the protests, but just know that your opinion is not any more valid than anyone else's. And when the majority speaks, their voices will be heard, and their affects will be felt. If the Saints and the rest of the NFL are too bull headed to see that, and make things right, instead of acting like school ground bullies with their fans, then they will get precisely what they deserve.

Papa Voodoo · 12-13-2017, 09:36 AM

Sell the tickets and donate to wounded warriors? Patriot or hack?

Halo · 12-13-2017, 09:50 AM

I kind of agree with Mark Ingram in that the Saints protested at an away game and then they adopter the Gerry Jones approach of kneeling in protest before, then standing for the National Anthem. This brought balance to the force.

Dis' coullion need to stop getting drunk the night before the game watchin' dat LSU on da teebee, den gettin' up too late in the mornin' to bring his wife and family to da Superdome for kickoff, and then blame it on da protests, cher!

burningmetal · 12-13-2017, 10:44 AM

I think the Jerry Jones approach that the Saints took only means something if you are only bothered by protesting during the Anthem. My personal stance has always been that I don't appreciate ANY kind of protesting at ANY point during a sporting event, or any other form of entertainment. Doing it during the Anthem is just that much worse.

So the idea that this guy is wrong because the Saints protested before the Anthem is inaccurate, in my opinion. Did this fan say anything specifically about the team protesting during the Anthem ONLY, or just protesting in general? From what I see, he is not happy about the protesting, period, and I agree with him.

44Champs · 12-13-2017, 10:55 AM

Give him back his money and let someone else purchase the tickets from here on out. Anything more than that would be the same as McDonald's having to pay millions of dollars to that woman because their coffee was too hot.

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burningmetal · 12-13-2017, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

Give him back his money and let someone else purchase the tickets from here on out. Anything more than that would be the same as McDonald's having to pay millions of dollars to that woman because their coffee was too hot.

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That's all he's asking for. He's not asking for extra money for punitive damages, or claiming that he was harassed or traumatized. I don't think it's too much to ask of the Saints, and yet they are acting like he wants 10 billion dollars.

AsylumGuido · 12-13-2017, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

That's all he's asking for. He's not asking for extra money for punitive damages, or claiming that he was harassed or traumatized. I don't think it's too much to ask of the Saints, and yet they are acting like he wants 10 billion dollars.

The Saints (backed and most likely prompted by the NFL) are fighting it for purposes of precedence. Letting fans demand money back and suing for it would be opening a can of worms. Now, if the guy had quietly gone to the Saints and asked for a refund they could have complied, but when the guy decided to make it high profile via lawsuit it entered a different realm. He clearly wanted to make a point and not just get his money back. The NFL has no choice but to answer the suit in court and they will most likely win with the guy not only being out the cost of his tickets, but also all court costs, which could easily dwarf the ticket costs.

burningmetal · 12-13-2017, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The Saints (backed and most likely prompted by the NFL) are fighting it for purposes of precedence. Letting fans demand money back and suing for it would be opening a can of worms. Now, if the guy had quietly gone to the Saints and asked for a refund they could have complied, but when the guy decided to make it high profile via lawsuit it entered a different realm. He clearly wanted to make a point and not just get his money back. The NFL has no choice but to answer the suit in court and they will most likely win with the guy not only being out the cost of his tickets, but also all court costs, which could easily dwarf the ticket costs.

He DID quietly go to them and ask for a refund, and they did not comply. So now he's suing them. The reason it's public knowledge is because reporters are always looking for something to talk about. How is that the problem of this fan?

If everyone were as passive about ever doing or saying anything negative towards their team as you are, fans everywhere would be completely screwed. Fans have to demand respect from the people who are charging them insane amounts of money to sit and watch a game... A GAME. Not a political rally.

Fans don't have official representation, and yet they are the driving force that keeps the league alive. So fans have to represent themselves and make demands. Will he win? Probably not. Will there be fallout as more and more stories like these come out? You better believe it. The NFL believes it has all the power because it has the money. They do have the money... For now. They are biting the hands that feed them.

Pete · 12-13-2017, 11:55 AM

I personally know the guy and he bleeds the red,white,and blue for sure.
He's a big business owner from around my territory and has plenty of cash flow to make it interesting to say the least lol

AsylumGuido · 12-13-2017, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Pete

I personally know the guy and he bleeds the red,white,and blue for sure.
He's a big business owner from around my territory and has plenty of cash flow to make it interesting to say the least lol

Since you know the guy personally, is he simply only wanting to get his season ticket money back or does he want to make a statement as I suggest?

12-13-2017, 08:48 AM	#11
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints fans sues over protests Originally Posted by ScottF They should give him his money back and tell him and his family that he is banned from all future Saints game. You're right, they SHOULD do that. Then maybe it will anger more fans and let this organization get an early taste of what the future will be like for them, with no fan support. You can dislike people like this guy, or me, all you want for our stance on the protests, but just know that your opinion is not any more valid than anyone else's. And when the majority speaks, their voices will be heard, and their affects will be felt. If the Saints and the rest of the NFL are too bull headed to see that, and make things right, instead of acting like school ground bullies with their fans, then they will get precisely what they deserve. jnormand and neugey like this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

12-13-2017, 09:36 AM	#12
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,628	Re: Saints fans sues over protests Sell the tickets and donate to wounded warriors? Patriot or hack?

12-13-2017, 09:50 AM	#13
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,205 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Saints fans sues over protests I kind of agree with Mark Ingram in that the Saints protested at an away game and then they adopter the Gerry Jones approach of kneeling in protest before, then standing for the National Anthem. This brought balance to the force. Dis' coullion need to stop getting drunk the night before the game watchin' dat LSU on da teebee, den gettin' up too late in the mornin' to bring his wife and family to da Superdome for kickoff, and then blame it on da protests, cher! AsylumGuido likes this.

12-13-2017, 10:44 AM	#14
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints fans sues over protests I think the Jerry Jones approach that the Saints took only means something if you are only bothered by protesting during the Anthem. My personal stance has always been that I don't appreciate ANY kind of protesting at ANY point during a sporting event, or any other form of entertainment. Doing it during the Anthem is just that much worse. So the idea that this guy is wrong because the Saints protested before the Anthem is inaccurate, in my opinion. Did this fan say anything specifically about the team protesting during the Anthem ONLY, or just protesting in general? From what I see, he is not happy about the protesting, period, and I agree with him.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

12-13-2017, 10:55 AM	#15
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: Saints fans sues over protests Give him back his money and let someone else purchase the tickets from here on out. Anything more than that would be the same as McDonald's having to pay millions of dollars to that woman because their coffee was too hot. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Rugby Saint II likes this.
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12-13-2017, 11:00 AM	#16
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints fans sues over protests Originally Posted by 44Champs Give him back his money and let someone else purchase the tickets from here on out. Anything more than that would be the same as McDonald's having to pay millions of dollars to that woman because their coffee was too hot. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk That's all he's asking for. He's not asking for extra money for punitive damages, or claiming that he was harassed or traumatized. I don't think it's too much to ask of the Saints, and yet they are acting like he wants 10 billion dollars. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-13-2017, 11:16 AM	#17
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Saints fans sues over protests Originally Posted by burningmetal That's all he's asking for. He's not asking for extra money for punitive damages, or claiming that he was harassed or traumatized. I don't think it's too much to ask of the Saints, and yet they are acting like he wants 10 billion dollars. The Saints (backed and most likely prompted by the NFL) are fighting it for purposes of precedence. Letting fans demand money back and suing for it would be opening a can of worms. Now, if the guy had quietly gone to the Saints and asked for a refund they could have complied, but when the guy decided to make it high profile via lawsuit it entered a different realm. He clearly wanted to make a point and not just get his money back. The NFL has no choice but to answer the suit in court and they will most likely win with the guy not only being out the cost of his tickets, but also all court costs, which could easily dwarf the ticket costs. jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.
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12-13-2017, 11:26 AM	#18
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints fans sues over protests Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The Saints (backed and most likely prompted by the NFL) are fighting it for purposes of precedence. Letting fans demand money back and suing for it would be opening a can of worms. Now, if the guy had quietly gone to the Saints and asked for a refund they could have complied, but when the guy decided to make it high profile via lawsuit it entered a different realm. He clearly wanted to make a point and not just get his money back. The NFL has no choice but to answer the suit in court and they will most likely win with the guy not only being out the cost of his tickets, but also all court costs, which could easily dwarf the ticket costs. He DID quietly go to them and ask for a refund, and they did not comply. So now he's suing them. The reason it's public knowledge is because reporters are always looking for something to talk about. How is that the problem of this fan? If everyone were as passive about ever doing or saying anything negative towards their team as you are, fans everywhere would be completely screwed. Fans have to demand respect from the people who are charging them insane amounts of money to sit and watch a game... A GAME. Not a political rally. Fans don't have official representation, and yet they are the driving force that keeps the league alive. So fans have to represent themselves and make demands. Will he win? Probably not. Will there be fallout as more and more stories like these come out? You better believe it. The NFL believes it has all the power because it has the money. They do have the money... For now. They are biting the hands that feed them.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

12-13-2017, 11:55 AM	#19
Pete • Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Patterson, LA Posts: 1,741	Re: Saints fans sues over protests I personally know the guy and he bleeds the red,white,and blue for sure. He's a big business owner from around my territory and has plenty of cash flow to make it interesting to say the least lol Halo and Rugby Saint II like this.

12-13-2017, 12:08 PM	#20
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Saints fans sues over protests Originally Posted by Pete I personally know the guy and he bleeds the red,white,and blue for sure. He's a big business owner from around my territory and has plenty of cash flow to make it interesting to say the least lol Since you know the guy personally, is he simply only wanting to get his season ticket money back or does he want to make a statement as I suggest? Halo likes this.
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