Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency

saintfan · 01-02-2018, 05:39 PM

We need a TE that can catch and block. I don't know why but that seems to be a pretty rare animal.

jnormand · 01-02-2018, 05:42 PM

Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had.

I don't get all the hate on the guy.

saintfan · 01-02-2018, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had.

I don't get all the hate on the guy.

I don't hate him at all. I like him on the roster, but he hasn't taken the next step...is what he is I suppose.

Danno · 01-02-2018, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had.

I don't get all the hate on the guy.

Agree. I think he’s an above average backup TE. He’s not a Greg Olsen but he’s probably as good or better than most #2 TEs

Rugby Saint II · 01-02-2018, 05:50 PM

I don't think we can cut Fleener without taking too much of a cap hit this year.......so pick a good one in the draft.

K Major · 01-02-2018, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I don't hate him at all. I like him on the roster, but he hasn't taken the next step...is what he is I suppose.

Yep.

I don't hate Hill either but he is was a UDFA. If we can find a more talented TE (either in FA or the draft), then perhaps we look else where. Circle back to Atl vs NO on the INT Brees threw to Deion Jones. Maybe a more talented TE makes a play on the ball or even score in that situation.

Winners usually mean the more talented player/difference maker. Nothing against Hill, Houswhatchamaclic etc but the Saints desperately need more talent at the TE position. Period.

blackangold · 01-02-2018, 06:05 PM

Jimmy would be great to have back. He isn’t going to get the big contract, he has proven that without Drew he isn’t worth that money. We would be significantly better if he were in the team right now. Imagine actually having 2 receiving threats.

blackangold · 01-02-2018, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

We need a TE that can catch and block. I don't know why but that seems to be a pretty rare animal.

The one thing Jimmy got better at was blocking. If we got him back I think he would be just as good as Hill with blocking.

AsylumGuido · 01-02-2018, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

He'd be nice to have but I geaux back to an earlier post...

We had Graham and were just smoking offensive stats, yet the team was mired in mediocrity...

We now have a two-headed Rushing Monster Nightmare for teams and are Division Champs, going into the playoffs...

Which would you have?

Both.

ScottF · 01-02-2018, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I don't think we can cut Fleener without taking too much of a cap hit this year.......so pick a good one in the draft.

Dead money is 4.8, which is nothing compared to some of our past moves.
With our much-improved cap situation, smart money is he's gone

I don't think JG is going to see a buyer's market. Might be able to get him in the two year for $12 million range. Throw some incentives in and let him retire with Drew

01-02-2018, 05:39 PM	#11
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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had. I don't get all the hate on the guy. Danno and turbo_dog like this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by jnormand Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had. I don't get all the hate on the guy. I don't hate him at all. I like him on the roster, but he hasn't taken the next step...is what he is I suppose. Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by jnormand Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had. I don't get all the hate on the guy. Agree. I think he’s an above average backup TE. He’s not a Greg Olsen but he’s probably as good or better than most #2 TEs jnormand likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by saintfan I don't hate him at all. I like him on the roster, but he hasn't taken the next step...is what he is I suppose. Yep. I don't hate Hill either but he is was a UDFA. If we can find a more talented TE (either in FA or the draft), then perhaps we look else where. Circle back to Atl vs NO on the INT Brees threw to Deion Jones. Maybe a more talented TE makes a play on the ball or even score in that situation. Winners usually mean the more talented player/difference maker. Nothing against Hill, Houswhatchamaclic etc but the Saints desperately need more talent at the TE position. Period. saintfan likes this.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Jimmy would be great to have back. He isn’t going to get the big contract, he has proven that without Drew he isn’t worth that money. We would be significantly better if he were in the team right now. Imagine actually having 2 receiving threats.

01-02-2018, 06:07 PM	#18
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by saintfan We need a TE that can catch and block. I don't know why but that seems to be a pretty rare animal. The one thing Jimmy got better at was blocking. If we got him back I think he would be just as good as Hill with blocking.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by jeanpierre He'd be nice to have but I geaux back to an earlier post... We had Graham and were just smoking offensive stats, yet the team was mired in mediocrity... We now have a two-headed Rushing Monster Nightmare for teams and are Division Champs, going into the playoffs... Which would you have? Both. MatthewT likes this.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I don't think we can cut Fleener without taking too much of a cap hit this year.......so pick a good one in the draft. Dead money is 4.8, which is nothing compared to some of our past moves. With our much-improved cap situation, smart money is he's gone I don't think JG is going to see a buyer's market. Might be able to get him in the two year for $12 million range. Throw some incentives in and let him retire with Drew