Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency

The Dude · 01-02-2018, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

He'd be nice to have but I geaux back to an earlier post...

We had Graham and were just smoking offensive stats, yet the team was mired in mediocrity...

We now have a two-headed Rushing Monster Nightmare for teams and are Division Champs, going into the playoffs...

Which would you have?

True but we were pretty one dimensional. Our defense was **** and our running game crap. It’s a different team now. I think parting with JG kind of forced Payton into finding a run game. I don’t think if we signed Graham our defense would all of a sudden start sucking and our run game would go to ****.
Our running duo is great but other than Thomas that’s it. An injury to any of those 3 players and our offense will go to crap. We need one more playmaker in the passing game and I think this would probably be one of the most complete and competitive teams in the league.
Point is that adding JG won’t automatically throw us back into mediocrity. Payton has found joy in different toys now and JG wouldn’t be the center of his attention.

saintsfan1976 · 01-02-2018, 04:02 PM

Next year I'd sign a veteran and add a draft pick. Think Trey Burton from Philly + Marvin Saunders in round 7.

saintfan · 01-02-2018, 04:39 PM

We need a TE that can catch and block. I don't know why but that seems to be a pretty rare animal.

blackangold · 01-02-2018, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

We need a TE that can catch and block. I don't know why but that seems to be a pretty rare animal.

The one thing Jimmy got better at was blocking. If we got him back I think he would be just as good as Hill with blocking.

jnormand · 01-02-2018, 04:42 PM

Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had.

I don't get all the hate on the guy.

saintfan · 01-02-2018, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had.

I don't get all the hate on the guy.

I don't hate him at all. I like him on the roster, but he hasn't taken the next step...is what he is I suppose.

K Major · 01-02-2018, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I don't hate him at all. I like him on the roster, but he hasn't taken the next step...is what he is I suppose.

Yep.

I don't hate Hill either but he is was a UDFA. If we can find a more talented TE (either in FA or the draft), then perhaps we look else where. Circle back to Atl vs NO on the INT Brees threw to Deion Jones. Maybe a more talented TE makes a play on the ball or even score in that situation.

Winners usually mean the more talented player/difference maker. Nothing against Hill, Houswhatchamaclic etc but the Saints desperately need more talent at the TE position. Period.

Danno · 01-02-2018, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had.

I don't get all the hate on the guy.

Agree. I think he’s an above average backup TE. He’s not a Greg Olsen but he’s probably as good or better than most #2 TEs

The Dude · 01-02-2018, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had.

I don't get all the hate on the guy.

Because Brees tries to force it to him sometimes in situations he shouldn’t.

AsylumGuido · 01-02-2018, 05:54 PM

I really don't give a damn about next season right now. We are going for our SB win number two!

15-5 Baby!

01-02-2018, 05:33 PM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by jeanpierre He'd be nice to have but I geaux back to an earlier post... We had Graham and were just smoking offensive stats, yet the team was mired in mediocrity... We now have a two-headed Rushing Monster Nightmare for teams and are Division Champs, going into the playoffs... Which would you have? True but we were pretty one dimensional. Our defense was ** and our running game crap. It’s a different team now. I think parting with JG kind of forced Payton into finding a run game. I don’t think if we signed Graham our defense would all of a sudden start sucking and our run game would go to **. Our running duo is great but other than Thomas that’s it. An injury to any of those 3 players and our offense will go to crap. We need one more playmaker in the passing game and I think this would probably be one of the most complete and competitive teams in the league. Point is that adding JG won’t automatically throw us back into mediocrity. Payton has found joy in different toys now and JG wouldn’t be the center of his attention. Papa Voodoo likes this.
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01-02-2018, 04:39 PM	#3
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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by saintfan We need a TE that can catch and block. I don't know why but that seems to be a pretty rare animal. The one thing Jimmy got better at was blocking. If we got him back I think he would be just as good as Hill with blocking.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,745	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had. I don't get all the hate on the guy. Danno and turbo_dog like this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by jnormand Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had. I don't get all the hate on the guy. I don't hate him at all. I like him on the roster, but he hasn't taken the next step...is what he is I suppose. Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,996 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Next year I'd sign a veteran and add a draft pick. Think Trey Burton from Philly + Marvin Saunders in round 7.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by saintfan I don't hate him at all. I like him on the roster, but he hasn't taken the next step...is what he is I suppose. Yep. I don't hate Hill either but he is was a UDFA. If we can find a more talented TE (either in FA or the draft), then perhaps we look else where. Circle back to Atl vs NO on the INT Brees threw to Deion Jones. Maybe a more talented TE makes a play on the ball or even score in that situation. Winners usually mean the more talented player/difference maker. Nothing against Hill, Houswhatchamaclic etc but the Saints desperately need more talent at the TE position. Period. saintfan likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by jnormand Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had. I don't get all the hate on the guy. Agree. I think he’s an above average backup TE. He’s not a Greg Olsen but he’s probably as good or better than most #2 TEs jnormand likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by jnormand Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had. I don't get all the hate on the guy. Because Brees tries to force it to him sometimes in situations he shouldn’t.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency I really don't give a damn about next season right now. We are going for our SB win number two! 15-5 Baby!