Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency

turbo_dog · 01-03-2018, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I really don't give a damn about next season right now. We are going for our SB win number two!

15-5 Baby!

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I totally agree with your positive attitude!!!!

SaintGnome · 01-02-2018, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had.

I don't get all the hate on the guy.

I got to apply this to most of our TEs adding that if your QB doesn't target your tight ends, how can you complain about their lack of production?

The Dude · 01-02-2018, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

I got to apply this to most of our TEs adding that if your QB doesn't target your tight ends, how can you complain about their lack of production?

This is true too. It’s like the thought of throwing to your TE is absurd this year. Don’t know if it’s a matter of trust or what but they haven’t been targeted much all year. I hoped Kuhn would be thrown in there once or twice as a receiving threat but I guess that’s not why they brought him back.

Papa Voodoo · 01-03-2018, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

I got to apply this to most of our TEs adding that if your QB doesn't target your tight ends, how can you complain about their lack of production?

John Phillips is a blocking TE too. So is Hoonamui. They're easy to come by. Having an actual threat (Fleener?) opens up a lot in the passing game. We aren't going to keep going with 1 WR and 2 RBs year after year. If Snead would turn into Snead we'd be fine.

darksoul35 · 01-03-2018, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

John Phillips is a blocking TE too. So is Hoonamui. They're easy to come by. Having an actual threat (Fleener?) opens up a lot in the passing game. We aren't going to keep going with 1 WR and 2 RBs year after year. If Snead would turn into Snead we'd be fine.

I keep waiting on Snead to catch one of his clutch 3rd down conversions. IDK why he has been a non factor after he returned from injury. I was thinking that we had a strong receiving core but I was wrong. I'm still impressed with the season though.

The Dude · 01-03-2018, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

John Phillips is a blocking TE too. So is Hoonamui. They're easy to come by. Having an actual threat (Fleener?) opens up a lot in the passing game. We aren't going to keep going with 1 WR and 2 RBs year after year. If Snead would turn into Snead we'd be fine.

That’s the thing. I don’t think anyone saw SNEAD deciding to take a step back

ScottF · 01-03-2018, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

That’s the thing. I don’t think anyone saw SNEAD deciding to take a step back

Snead went from 70 catches a year to 8 this year. Probably will cost him 5 million

Rugby Saint II · 01-02-2018, 04:50 PM

I don't think we can cut Fleener without taking too much of a cap hit this year.......so pick a good one in the draft.

ScottF · 01-02-2018, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I don't think we can cut Fleener without taking too much of a cap hit this year.......so pick a good one in the draft.

Dead money is 4.8, which is nothing compared to some of our past moves.
With our much-improved cap situation, smart money is he's gone

I don't think JG is going to see a buyer's market. Might be able to get him in the two year for $12 million range. Throw some incentives in and let him retire with Drew

blackangold · 01-02-2018, 05:05 PM

Jimmy would be great to have back. He isn’t going to get the big contract, he has proven that without Drew he isn’t worth that money. We would be significantly better if he were in the team right now. Imagine actually having 2 receiving threats.

01-03-2018, 11:27 AM	#1
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,707	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I really don't give a damn about next season right now. We are going for our SB win number two! 15-5 Baby! I can't believe I'm saying this, but I totally agree with your positive attitude!!!!

01-02-2018, 07:01 PM	#2
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by jnormand Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had. I don't get all the hate on the guy. I got to apply this to most of our TEs adding that if your QB doesn't target your tight ends, how can you complain about their lack of production? jnormand likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by SaintGnome I got to apply this to most of our TEs adding that if your QB doesn't target your tight ends, how can you complain about their lack of production? This is true too. It’s like the thought of throwing to your TE is absurd this year. Don’t know if it’s a matter of trust or what but they haven’t been targeted much all year. I hoped Kuhn would be thrown in there once or twice as a receiving threat but I guess that’s not why they brought him back.
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01-03-2018, 09:15 AM	#4
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by SaintGnome I got to apply this to most of our TEs adding that if your QB doesn't target your tight ends, how can you complain about their lack of production? John Phillips is a blocking TE too. So is Hoonamui. They're easy to come by. Having an actual threat (Fleener?) opens up a lot in the passing game. We aren't going to keep going with 1 WR and 2 RBs year after year. If Snead would turn into Snead we'd be fine. darksoul35 likes this.

01-03-2018, 09:30 AM	#5
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,044	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo John Phillips is a blocking TE too. So is Hoonamui. They're easy to come by. Having an actual threat (Fleener?) opens up a lot in the passing game. We aren't going to keep going with 1 WR and 2 RBs year after year. If Snead would turn into Snead we'd be fine. I keep waiting on Snead to catch one of his clutch 3rd down conversions. IDK why he has been a non factor after he returned from injury. I was thinking that we had a strong receiving core but I was wrong. I'm still impressed with the season though.
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01-03-2018, 09:49 AM	#6
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo John Phillips is a blocking TE too. So is Hoonamui. They're easy to come by. Having an actual threat (Fleener?) opens up a lot in the passing game. We aren't going to keep going with 1 WR and 2 RBs year after year. If Snead would turn into Snead we'd be fine. That’s the thing. I don’t think anyone saw SNEAD deciding to take a step back
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01-03-2018, 10:37 AM	#7
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by The Dude That’s the thing. I don’t think anyone saw SNEAD deciding to take a step back Snead went from 70 catches a year to 8 this year. Probably will cost him 5 million

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency I don't think we can cut Fleener without taking too much of a cap hit this year.......so pick a good one in the draft.

01-02-2018, 05:28 PM	#9
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I don't think we can cut Fleener without taking too much of a cap hit this year.......so pick a good one in the draft. Dead money is 4.8, which is nothing compared to some of our past moves. With our much-improved cap situation, smart money is he's gone I don't think JG is going to see a buyer's market. Might be able to get him in the two year for $12 million range. Throw some incentives in and let him retire with Drew

01-02-2018, 05:05 PM	#10
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Jimmy would be great to have back. He isn’t going to get the big contract, he has proven that without Drew he isn’t worth that money. We would be significantly better if he were in the team right now. Imagine actually having 2 receiving threats.