Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency

The Dude · 01-02-2018, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

He'd be nice to have but I geaux back to an earlier post...

We had Graham and were just smoking offensive stats, yet the team was mired in mediocrity...

We now have a two-headed Rushing Monster Nightmare for teams and are Division Champs, going into the playoffs...

Which would you have?

True but we were pretty one dimensional. Our defense was **** and our running game crap. It’s a different team now. I think parting with JG kind of forced Payton into finding a run game. I don’t think if we signed Graham our defense would all of a sudden start sucking and our run game would go to ****.
Our running duo is great but other than Thomas that’s it. An injury to any of those 3 players and our offense will go to crap. We need one more playmaker in the passing game and I think this would probably be one of the most complete and competitive teams in the league.
Point is that adding JG won’t automatically throw us back into mediocrity. Payton has found joy in different toys now and JG wouldn’t be the center of his attention.

The Dude · 01-02-2018, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had.

I don't get all the hate on the guy.

Because Brees tries to force it to him sometimes in situations he shouldn’t.

AsylumGuido · 01-02-2018, 05:54 PM

I really don't give a damn about next season right now. We are going for our SB win number two!

15-5 Baby!

SaintGnome · 01-02-2018, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had.

I don't get all the hate on the guy.

I got to apply this to most of our TEs adding that if your QB doesn't target your tight ends, how can you complain about their lack of production?

The Dude · 01-02-2018, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

I got to apply this to most of our TEs adding that if your QB doesn't target your tight ends, how can you complain about their lack of production?

This is true too. It’s like the thought of throwing to your TE is absurd this year. Don’t know if it’s a matter of trust or what but they haven’t been targeted much all year. I hoped Kuhn would be thrown in there once or twice as a receiving threat but I guess that’s not why they brought him back.

RockyMountainSaint · 01-02-2018, 10:58 PM

So, everyone is OK with his crappy locker room attitude but everyone else isn't welcome?

Sure, he was basically an orphan and all but boo freaking hoo.

He is as soft as a piece of chewed bubble gum.

RailBoss · 01-03-2018, 01:02 AM

guarantee that the Ravens pick up Graham.

AsylumGuido · 01-03-2018, 06:37 AM

TE's have not been utilized as much because the RB has taken on that role in this season's offense. It is as simple as that. With two RB's capable of handling screens and checkdowns highly successfully it has allowed the TE position to function more often as a blocker in the run and screen games. Of course, injuries to the position has to have at least a partial affect on the downturn in TE targets, but it is the increased reliance on the RB's that has made by far the greatest impact.

hagan714 · 01-03-2018, 06:49 AM

wait and see if the major rebuild rumors are true in Seattle

SmashMouth · 01-03-2018, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

TE's have not been utilized as much because the RB has taken on that role in this season's offense. It is as simple as that. With two RB's capable of handling screens and checkdowns highly successfully it has allowed the TE position to function more often as a blocker in the run and screen games. Of course, injuries to the position has to have at least a partial affect on the downturn in TE targets, but it is the increased reliance on the RB's that has made by far the greatest impact.

Still in need of a TE for down the middle catches.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by jeanpierre He'd be nice to have but I geaux back to an earlier post... We had Graham and were just smoking offensive stats, yet the team was mired in mediocrity... We now have a two-headed Rushing Monster Nightmare for teams and are Division Champs, going into the playoffs... Which would you have? True but we were pretty one dimensional. Our defense was ** and our running game crap. It’s a different team now. I think parting with JG kind of forced Payton into finding a run game. I don’t think if we signed Graham our defense would all of a sudden start sucking and our run game would go to **. Our running duo is great but other than Thomas that’s it. An injury to any of those 3 players and our offense will go to crap. We need one more playmaker in the passing game and I think this would probably be one of the most complete and competitive teams in the league. Point is that adding JG won’t automatically throw us back into mediocrity. Payton has found joy in different toys now and JG wouldn’t be the center of his attention. Papa Voodoo likes this.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by jnormand Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had. I don't get all the hate on the guy. Because Brees tries to force it to him sometimes in situations he shouldn’t.
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SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by jnormand Hill is a blocking TE. And he's damn good at it. He is one of several guys that deserve some credit for the season MI and Kamara have had. I don't get all the hate on the guy. I got to apply this to most of our TEs adding that if your QB doesn't target your tight ends, how can you complain about their lack of production? jnormand likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by SaintGnome I got to apply this to most of our TEs adding that if your QB doesn't target your tight ends, how can you complain about their lack of production? This is true too. It’s like the thought of throwing to your TE is absurd this year. Don’t know if it’s a matter of trust or what but they haven’t been targeted much all year. I hoped Kuhn would be thrown in there once or twice as a receiving threat but I guess that’s not why they brought him back.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,046	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency TE's have not been utilized as much because the RB has taken on that role in this season's offense. It is as simple as that. With two RB's capable of handling screens and checkdowns highly successfully it has allowed the TE position to function more often as a blocker in the run and screen games. Of course, injuries to the position has to have at least a partial affect on the downturn in TE targets, but it is the increased reliance on the RB's that has made by far the greatest impact.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Jimmy Graham likely to leave Seattle in free agency Originally Posted by AsylumGuido TE's have not been utilized as much because the RB has taken on that role in this season's offense. It is as simple as that. With two RB's capable of handling screens and checkdowns highly successfully it has allowed the TE position to function more often as a blocker in the run and screen games. Of course, injuries to the position has to have at least a partial affect on the downturn in TE targets, but it is the increased reliance on the RB's that has made by far the greatest impact. Still in need of a TE for down the middle catches.