Trade for Patrick Ramsey???

ScottBalot · 04-20-2005, 04:21 PM

I would absolutely love to see Pat Ramsey in a Saints uniform

Danno · 04-20-2005, 04:45 PM

I would absolutely love to see Pat Ramsey in a Saints uniform

Hey Scott, glad you joined in.

I recently heard rumors that its actually Matt Jones they are targeting, not Jason Campbell.
Do you think there\'s any truth to either rumor?

mutineer10 · 04-20-2005, 06:37 PM

I\'m not Scott Balot, but...

This \"Redskins want Jason Campbell\" thing sounds a bit too drummed up for me. It was all over ESPN radio today, especially on Dan Patrick\'s show. Mortensen was quick to point out that the Redskins made the draft picks trade shortly after returning from a lengthy visit with Campbell ... so I guess the evidence is there. But unless this is a smokescreen, the Redskins have done an awfully bad job of keeping a lid on things.

There\'s still alot of buzz surrounding Campbell, and he seems to be rising up some people\'s draft boards (I\'m seeing him pop up in the lower first round more often). After watching him play in college, I\'m still a bit puzzled about it, but I guess the NFL scouts know more than I do...

Matt Jones just doesn\'t seem to make sense as a \"Joe Gibbs\" type of player. Then again, neither did Clinton Portis, so who knows? I\'m still curious to see how an NFL team plans to use him ... he\'s one heck of an athlete.

[Edited on 20/4/2005 by mutineer10]

spkb25 · 04-20-2005, 06:42 PM

im with you ut on campbell. at the same time who knows about gibbs right now. im not sure the guy can get it done. not saying he cant but i dont think he is a sure thing like everyone else does. not on here either. media. he may have been a way to long. i think ramsey is pretty good.

TheDeuce · 04-20-2005, 07:20 PM

I would absolutely love to see Pat Ramsey in a Saints uniform

I wouldn\'t. What has he done to impress anybody? Sure he\'s had an awful offensive line playing in front of him, but he has still made tons AB-like mistakes the past few years. And, he\'s not as athletic as AB. I would much rather have Brooks who has shown flashes of brilliance. I\'d like to see us try to get Aaron to be consistent with his good play, rather than bring in a less-athletic Patrick Ramsey who hasn\'t done jack-squat.

blackwidows · 04-20-2005, 08:04 PM

Well said Ramsey is not better than Brooks. Ramsey would be a downgrade. He may push Brooks to do better though.

saintswhodi · 04-20-2005, 08:09 PM

Ramsey has NEVER had the offense AB has had around him. He has been shell shocked since coming into the league with all the arse whippings his line has allowed him to take. He also never had the luxury of having a vet QB lead his team to a 7-4 record so he could coast into the playoffs. Brady is not as athletic as AB, neither is Peyton. Neither is Drew Brees. Neither is Jake. Neither is Favre. Neither is Bulger. They all seem to be doing okay. Brooks athleticism can go take a jump in the lake, where his football IQ has been since we got him. Ramsey IMO would do fine were he to come here, with a Joe Horn and a Deuce. His RBs year before last were Trung Canidate and Ladell Betts. His receivers? Gardner and McCareins and Jacobs. Coles seemed to do alright with him. Give AB those offenses and he would be worse than Ramsey was.

TheDeuce · 04-20-2005, 08:12 PM

That\'s a good point blackwidows. Ramsey is a downgrade, but he might be able to push Brooks to be better. But would a back-up be worth a 4th rounder?

Whodi, I see your point about the Redskins not having as much talent as the Saints, but shouldn\'t such a good player be able to make his team better? Even if there isn\'t a whole lot of talent? i.e. Donovan McNabb before the acquisition of Terrell Owens

[Edited on 21/4/2005 by TheDeuce]

spkb25 · 04-20-2005, 08:24 PM

UM DEUCE, MCNABB HAS BEEN PLAYING WITH ONE OF THE BEST LINES IN THE GAME. I THINK HE IS A GOOD QB IN THIS LEAGUE. BUT HE ALSO HAS ONE OF THE BEST LINES IN THE LEAGUE. HE HAS BEEN OK. I WOULDNT SAY HE HAS DONE EVERYTHING WITH NOTHING

saintswhodi · 04-20-2005, 08:24 PM

The Deuce, with Horn and Deuce, in what way has AB made this team BETTER? In any way? The only other QB to get a chance to play while AB was here was Jeff Blake, and he was 7-4 and headed to the playoffs. We have been mediocre since AB took over. Definitely not all his fault, but he has not made this team any BETTER with his \"talent and athleticism.\" So the expectation is a QB with a much less talented team should make his team better, while AB doesn\'t make our team any better? Is that fair?

04-20-2005, 04:21 PM	#11
ScottBalot Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 87	Trade for Patrick Ramsey??? I would absolutely love to see Pat Ramsey in a Saints uniform
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04-20-2005, 04:45 PM	#12
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Trade for Patrick Ramsey??? I would absolutely love to see Pat Ramsey in a Saints uniform Hey Scott, glad you joined in. I recently heard rumors that its actually Matt Jones they are targeting, not Jason Campbell. Do you think there\'s any truth to either rumor?

04-20-2005, 06:37 PM	#13
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Trade for Patrick Ramsey??? I\'m not Scott Balot, but... This \"Redskins want Jason Campbell\" thing sounds a bit too drummed up for me. It was all over ESPN radio today, especially on Dan Patrick\'s show. Mortensen was quick to point out that the Redskins made the draft picks trade shortly after returning from a lengthy visit with Campbell ... so I guess the evidence is there. But unless this is a smokescreen, the Redskins have done an awfully bad job of keeping a lid on things. There\'s still alot of buzz surrounding Campbell, and he seems to be rising up some people\'s draft boards (I\'m seeing him pop up in the lower first round more often). After watching him play in college, I\'m still a bit puzzled about it, but I guess the NFL scouts know more than I do... Matt Jones just doesn\'t seem to make sense as a \"Joe Gibbs\" type of player. Then again, neither did Clinton Portis, so who knows? I\'m still curious to see how an NFL team plans to use him ... he\'s one heck of an athlete. [Edited on 20/4/2005 by mutineer10]

04-20-2005, 06:42 PM	#14
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Trade for Patrick Ramsey??? im with you ut on campbell. at the same time who knows about gibbs right now. im not sure the guy can get it done. not saying he cant but i dont think he is a sure thing like everyone else does. not on here either. media. he may have been a way to long. i think ramsey is pretty good.

04-20-2005, 07:20 PM	#15
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Trade for Patrick Ramsey??? I would absolutely love to see Pat Ramsey in a Saints uniform I wouldn\'t. What has he done to impress anybody? Sure he\'s had an awful offensive line playing in front of him, but he has still made tons AB-like mistakes the past few years. And, he\'s not as athletic as AB. I would much rather have Brooks who has shown flashes of brilliance. I\'d like to see us try to get Aaron to be consistent with his good play, rather than bring in a less-athletic Patrick Ramsey who hasn\'t done jack-squat.
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04-20-2005, 08:09 PM	#17
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Trade for Patrick Ramsey??? Ramsey has NEVER had the offense AB has had around him. He has been shell shocked since coming into the league with all the arse whippings his line has allowed him to take. He also never had the luxury of having a vet QB lead his team to a 7-4 record so he could coast into the playoffs. Brady is not as athletic as AB, neither is Peyton. Neither is Drew Brees. Neither is Jake. Neither is Favre. Neither is Bulger. They all seem to be doing okay. Brooks athleticism can go take a jump in the lake, where his football IQ has been since we got him. Ramsey IMO would do fine were he to come here, with a Joe Horn and a Deuce. His RBs year before last were Trung Canidate and Ladell Betts. His receivers? Gardner and McCareins and Jacobs. Coles seemed to do alright with him. Give AB those offenses and he would be worse than Ramsey was.

04-20-2005, 08:12 PM	#18
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Trade for Patrick Ramsey??? That\'s a good point blackwidows. Ramsey is a downgrade, but he might be able to push Brooks to be better. But would a back-up be worth a 4th rounder? Whodi, I see your point about the Redskins not having as much talent as the Saints, but shouldn\'t such a good player be able to make his team better? Even if there isn\'t a whole lot of talent? i.e. Donovan McNabb before the acquisition of Terrell Owens [Edited on 21/4/2005 by TheDeuce]
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04-20-2005, 08:24 PM	#19
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Trade for Patrick Ramsey??? UM DEUCE, MCNABB HAS BEEN PLAYING WITH ONE OF THE BEST LINES IN THE GAME. I THINK HE IS A GOOD QB IN THIS LEAGUE. BUT HE ALSO HAS ONE OF THE BEST LINES IN THE LEAGUE. HE HAS BEEN OK. I WOULDNT SAY HE HAS DONE EVERYTHING WITH NOTHING

04-20-2005, 08:24 PM	#20
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Trade for Patrick Ramsey??? The Deuce, with Horn and Deuce, in what way has AB made this team BETTER? In any way? The only other QB to get a chance to play while AB was here was Jeff Blake, and he was 7-4 and headed to the playoffs. We have been mediocre since AB took over. Definitely not all his fault, but he has not made this team any BETTER with his \"talent and athleticism.\" So the expectation is a QB with a much less talented team should make his team better, while AB doesn\'t make our team any better? Is that fair?