What we learned after the Saints' playoff win against the Panthers

SaintGup · 01-08-2018, 02:21 AM

I am not going to complain about Payton's 4th down call. He tried, it failed. Remember the 4th down in the second game? People probably thought 'for chrissakes Payton, kick a goddamn field goal. Kamara punched it in and we all thought it was great. I will not knock him. If it was on our own 20 yard line? May have been a teensy bit annoyed.

darksoul35 · 01-08-2018, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by SaintGup

I am not going to complain about Payton's 4th down call. He tried, it failed. Remember the 4th down in the second game? People probably thought 'for chrissakes Payton, kick a goddamn field goal. Kamara punched it in and we all thought it was great. I will not knock him. If it was on our own 20 yard line? May have been a teensy bit annoyed.

Ill take this Payton with balls over the conservative Payton we had the last three years. That being said they are not going to work all the time but it has won us games this year so I am not going to cry win it fails. It looked like the defense was getting tired so he went for it.

ulcajun5 · 01-08-2018, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

The best Saints team since 2011 will be denied realizing their potential because SP is a hard headed attention seeking dill hole.

See the first third down play and the last fourth down play.

He cares more for his shine than he does the team's success.

That last 4th down play is why I love Payton. He plays to win the game. You essentially give yourself 2 chances to finish the game, one on defense and one on offense. I could care less about the percentages at that point, we have one of the most clutch QB's in NFL history. Do you want Michael Jordan taking the final shot or some rookie who has had a good year. Yes it didn't play out like we wanted but in the end the rookie aka our defense came through. We held on d in the red zone but they were doing a great job driving down the field all game. Loved the 4th down attempt on offense to finish it right there, most coaches don't have the balls and would be to worried about post postgame backlash and play it safe. I think it's the opposite of being about him.

Mardigras9 · 01-08-2018, 07:53 AM

3rd down efficiency this year is a real problem, and now they HAVE to do better there in these next games to keep winning.

homerj07 · 01-08-2018, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by xan

We have to design better 3rd and short plays

We've got to do better on ALL third downs. Gonna be our Achilles heal.

homerj07 · 01-08-2018, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

It was total BS that concussion protocol for Scam Newton... He should have sat out much longer than he did.

TOTAL BS. They are talking about it on NFL channel right now. You stumble like a drunk in Mardi Gras, you go to the locker room

OldMaid · 01-08-2018, 05:44 PM

A Saints W is a Saints W. I'll take a W that ugly or nerve racking or close any day.
I would prefer to do without this kind of "on the edge " excitement.
There is no next week during these post season games.

What have I learned?
Same thing throughout the season.
I would them to W , but early on in the 1st and 2nd qrtr. Score high. Big lead. Keep it up. Saints won this game, but IF, IF CPanths had more time, they could have won too.

On to MiniVikings this week.
I want the Saints to W any way they can, but I sure would like them to be a big threat and win big and win early and win easy.

WillSaints81 · 01-08-2018, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Oh No! Well in that case I'm glad we won too. We don't have to read your *****y posts for at least another week.

It's not that *****y at all. If we lost this game I would have called out his heart. You have to keep your foot on the throat. What I saw down the stretch reminded me of the week 6 game last season. And giving them two field goals around the halfway point is uncalled for.

01-08-2018, 02:21 AM	#21
SaintGup 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 580	Re: What we learned after the Saints' playoff win against the Panthers I am not going to complain about Payton's 4th down call. He tried, it failed. Remember the 4th down in the second game? People probably thought 'for chrissakes Payton, kick a goddamn field goal. Kamara punched it in and we all thought it was great. I will not knock him. If it was on our own 20 yard line? May have been a teensy bit annoyed. darksoul35 likes this.

01-08-2018, 06:01 AM	#22
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,041	Re: What we learned after the Saints' playoff win against the Panthers Originally Posted by SaintGup I am not going to complain about Payton's 4th down call. He tried, it failed. Remember the 4th down in the second game? People probably thought 'for chrissakes Payton, kick a goddamn field goal. Kamara punched it in and we all thought it was great. I will not knock him. If it was on our own 20 yard line? May have been a teensy bit annoyed. Ill take this Payton with balls over the conservative Payton we had the last three years. That being said they are not going to work all the time but it has won us games this year so I am not going to cry win it fails. It looked like the defense was getting tired so he went for it. Crusader likes this.
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01-08-2018, 06:03 AM	#23
ulcajun5 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3	Re: What we learned after the Saints' playoff win against the Panthers Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint The best Saints team since 2011 will be denied realizing their potential because SP is a hard headed attention seeking dill hole. See the first third down play and the last fourth down play. He cares more for his shine than he does the team's success. That last 4th down play is why I love Payton. He plays to win the game. You essentially give yourself 2 chances to finish the game, one on defense and one on offense. I could care less about the percentages at that point, we have one of the most clutch QB's in NFL history. Do you want Michael Jordan taking the final shot or some rookie who has had a good year. Yes it didn't play out like we wanted but in the end the rookie aka our defense came through. We held on d in the red zone but they were doing a great job driving down the field all game. Loved the 4th down attempt on offense to finish it right there, most coaches don't have the balls and would be to worried about post postgame backlash and play it safe. I think it's the opposite of being about him. mleg1972 likes this.
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01-08-2018, 07:53 AM	#24
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: What we learned after the Saints' playoff win against the Panthers 3rd down efficiency this year is a real problem, and now they HAVE to do better there in these next games to keep winning.

01-08-2018, 05:11 PM	#25
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: What we learned after the Saints' playoff win against the Panthers Originally Posted by xan We have to design better 3rd and short plays We've got to do better on ALL third downs. Gonna be our Achilles heal.

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01-08-2018, 05:16 PM	#26
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: What we learned after the Saints' playoff win against the Panthers Originally Posted by SmashMouth It was total BS that concussion protocol for Scam Newton... He should have sat out much longer than he did. TOTAL BS. They are talking about it on NFL channel right now. You stumble like a drunk in Mardi Gras, you go to the locker room OldMaid likes this.

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OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What we learned after the Saints' playoff win against the Panthers A Saints W is a Saints W. I'll take a W that ugly or nerve racking or close any day. I would prefer to do without this kind of "on the edge " excitement. There is no next week during these post season games. What have I learned? Same thing throughout the season. I would them to W , but early on in the 1st and 2nd qrtr. Score high. Big lead. Keep it up. Saints won this game, but IF, IF CPanths had more time, they could have won too. On to MiniVikings this week. I want the Saints to W any way they can, but I sure would like them to be a big threat and win big and win early and win easy.

01-08-2018, 06:57 PM	#28
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: What we learned after the Saints' playoff win against the Panthers Originally Posted by jnormand Oh No! Well in that case I'm glad we won too. We don't have to read your ***y posts for at least another week. It's not that ***y at all. If we lost this game I would have called out his heart. You have to keep your foot on the throat. What I saw down the stretch reminded me of the week 6 game last season. And giving them two field goals around the halfway point is uncalled for.