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jeanpierre 04-05-2018 07:31 AM
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If he hits the market, we should absolutely bring him in for a visit...

rezburna 04-05-2018 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 797685)
That’s factual. He better.

FinSaint 04-05-2018 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 797737)
If he hits the market, we should absolutely bring him in for a visit...

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...58907013468160
What would you be willing to give the Browns in return?

AsylumGuido 04-05-2018 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 797658)
Your defense of the man and his actions speak much more loudly than my fair assessment of how he handled those negotiations. It is you, after all, who has proclaimed to have read every word written on the subject. He hid behind his agent and the NFLPA for more money, regardless of whether he was quoted in the papers as having said so outright. I can respect a player who has out-performed his contract and holds out, but I cannot respect a man who hides his agenda. I hope that helps.

;)
So you are pissed off at him because you are convinced he had a hidden agenda. Seriously?

What could that personal agenda have been? The agenda was clearly stated as a to challenge defined franchise tag designations which had the possibility of helping many other NFLPA members. That's mighty magnanimous of him. Even if it was his agenda, who cares? Even if the NFLPA and the NFL front office were not involved (which they both were with a bank of lawyers on each side) it had no adverse affect on any of us, so why the bitterness? It is none of our business.

All that you have been able to describe of your dislike of Jimmy Graham concerning the "tag hearing" is that in your opinion he had some hidden agenda. What could that egregious agenda have been?

As far as how he "handled the negotiations", no negotiations took place until the franchise tag hearing was complete. It commenced on April 28, 2014 and was resolved on July 2, 2014. There were no negotiations during that time period. True negotiations did not begin until after July 2, 2014. Less than two weeks later he signed his four year, $40 million extension. That seemed to be fairly quick negotiating.

As an interesting side note, the 49er's were also waiting on the decision given that Vernon Davis was holding out for a better contract.

saintfan 04-05-2018 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 797747)
So you are pissed off at him because you are convinced he had a hidden agenda. Seriously?

What could that personal agenda have been? The agenda was clearly stated as a to challenge defined franchise tag designations which had the possibility of helping many other NFLPA members. That's mighty magnanimous of him. Even if it was his agenda, who cares? Even if the NFLPA and the NFL front office were not involved (which they both were with a bank of lawyers on each side) it had no adverse affect on any of us, so why the bitterness? It is none of our business.

All that you have been able to describe of your dislike of Jimmy Graham concerning the "tag hearing" is that in your opinion he had some hidden agenda. What could that egregious agenda have been?

As far as how he "handled the negotiations", no negotiations took place until the franchise tag hearing was complete. It commenced on April 28, 2014 and was resolved on July 2, 2014. There were no negotiations during that time period. True negotiations did not begin until after July 2, 2014. Less than two weeks later he signed his four year, $40 million extension. That seemed to be fairly quick negotiating.

As an interesting side note, the 49er's were also waiting on the decision given that Vernon Davis was holding out for a better contract.
Dude, let it go already- I'll say what I want, when I want, why I want, and I'm not going to keep repeating my very sound reasoning to you. You either get it or you don't. Whatever already. Leave it be. Your defense of the man is kinda weird. It is not your job to stalk the forum defending the man at every turn.

Why on earth do you care so much what I think about a player not even on our team? Kinda weird. Do you keep a 'Jimmy Journal' under your freakin' pillow with every word ever written about the man? Seriously man. Let it the :censored: go already.

For real - the next time I make a crack about Jimmy and the NFLPA (and I absolutely will do that very thing) just breath deeply, or take a pill, or both, but try really hard not to try to convince me the 'poor guy' was a victim of circumstance, or that he was doing the right thing, or whatever it is that you think.

I DO NOT CARE.

I AM NEVER GOING TO BELIEVE YOUR TAKE.

If you love Jimmy this much (weird) then great. Rock on. Your obsession with the man is plain strange. Get yourself a Jimmy GB Packers jersey and sleep with it, or whatever, but do not ever believe that you will ever get me to believe what you believe. I have an uncanny ability to read between the lines, and I don't get man crushes on athletes.

jeanpierre 04-05-2018 11:33 AM
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AsylumGuido 04-05-2018 11:50 AM
Re: 2018 NFL Free Agency
 
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 797758)
Dude, let it go already- I'll say what I want, when I want, why I want, and I'm not going to keep repeating my very sound reasoning to you. You either get it or you don't. Whatever already. Leave it be. Your defense of the man is kinda weird. It is not your job to stalk the forum defending the man at every turn.

Why on earth do you care so much what I think about a player not even on our team? Kinda weird. Do you keep a 'Jimmy Journal' under your freakin' pillow with every word ever written about the man? Seriously man. Let it the :censored: go already.

For real - the next time I make a crack about Jimmy and the NFLPA (and I absolutely will do that very thing) just breath deeply, or take a pill, or both, but try really hard not to try to convince me the 'poor guy' was a victim of circumstance, or that he was doing the right thing, or whatever it is that you think.

I DO NOT CARE.

I AM NEVER GOING TO BELIEVE YOUR TAKE.

If you love Jimmy this much (weird) then great. Rock on. Your obsession with the man is plain strange. Get yourself a Jimmy GB Packers jersey and sleep with it, or whatever, but do not ever believe that you will ever get me to believe what you believe. I have an uncanny ability to read between the lines, and I don't get man crushes on athletes.
Your ability to read between the lines is legendary, for sure ... in your own mind.

:rolleyes:

I have no "man crush" on Jimmy Graham. It is simply common knowledge why the challenge of the tag designation took place and it wasn't any "hidden agenda" by Graham (which for some reason has your panties in a wad). It has become very clear that you cannot look at this logically. I would have had the exact same stance if any other player in the league was in the situation to challenge the designation issue. Graham just happened to be the first.

Therefore, just enjoy your hatred! I'll be looking for your future injections of unwarranted disgust for Graham.

:saintsfan:

saintfan 04-05-2018 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 797771)
Your ability to read between the lines is legendary, for sure ... in your own mind.

:rolleyes:

I have no "man crush" on Jimmy Graham. It is simply common knowledge why the challenge of the tag designation took place and it wasn't any "hidden agenda" by Graham (which for some reason has your panties in a wad). It has become very clear that you cannot look at this logically. I would have had the exact same stance if any other player in the league was in the situation to challenge the designation issue. Graham just happened to be the first.

Therefore, just enjoy your hatred! I'll be looking for your future injections of unwarranted disgust for Graham.

:saintsfan:
My friend you've got a problem. Stop worrying about what I think or why. Just LET IT GO. I've not seen this kind of stubborn ridiculousness since my freakin' ex-wife. You just can't help it can you? I'm sorry that you and I disagree, but you need to come to grips it.

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AsylumGuido 04-05-2018 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 797772)
My friend you've got a problem. Stop worrying about what I think or why. Just LET IT GO. I've not seen this kind of stubborn ridiculousness since my freakin' ex-wife. You just can't help it can you? I'm sorry that you and I disagree, but you need to come to grips it.

https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/im..._93c7c550.jpeg
Sorry, you're the one with the problem. An irrational hatred of an individual for an imagined reason. It just frustrates me that you ignore facts. I'll leave it be because I cannot convince a person that refuses to see logic and facts.

:bang:

saintfan 04-05-2018 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 797774)
Sorry, you're the one with the problem. An irrational hatred of an individual for an imagined reason. It just frustrates me that you ignore facts. I'll leave it be because I cannot convince a person that refuses to see logic and facts.

:bang:
Okay ex-wifey - lets see how long it takes you to stop. I'll play along because I think you have a problem and this might be a good endeavor for science. Must you have the last word? :popcorn:

Once again, let it go. I'm glad you are nearly as obsessed with my opinion as you are Jimmy's standing in someone else's brain. Still, I'm not going to re-re-re-define my position for you, but I will confirm I never said nor indicated I 'hate' Jimmy Graham, but your very weird affection for the dude is bizarre to be sure.

Anyway...

If you want to argue about Jimmy Graham, call his girlfriend and the two of you can claw each other's eyes out. I assure you I'm not that interested. Now lets see if you can let it go or if you simply have to have the last word...

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