Very VERY interesting rumor concerning the Chargers

saintswhodi · 04-22-2005, 12:15 PM

and pick # 28:

Apr. 20 - Only one year removed from trading the rights to No. 1 pick Eli Manning, the San Diego Chargers are setting up scenarios to be big players in the first round again. This time they want to emerge with an offensive and a defensive player.
The team is leaning toward keeping the No. 12 pick, but is listening to offers. One team above them has made an intriguing offer, while three teams have contacted them wanting to move up.

A more likely scenario is starting to develop at No. 28. Though the other team and the player are unknown at the moment, the Chargers are considering an exchange for a veteran defensive end and a draft choice.

If the Chargers can land the defensive end and the draft choice, they can concentrate on offense with their first pick.

I read on another board the end is rumored to be Simeon Rice of Tampa because, oh my gosh imagine this, they need cap room to sign their picks. Can we sneak in there with Howard?

LKelley67 · 04-22-2005, 12:24 PM

The Bucs cannot trade Rice and another pick to get #28. Rice has had 42.5 sacks in the past 4 years. He is a good guy. He plays injured and you cannot see any dropoff. It doesn\'t matter that his contract is for $6mil this season either.

GoldenTomb · 04-22-2005, 12:32 PM

Yep....sounds like untouchable material to me. :casstet:

saintswhodi · 04-22-2005, 12:34 PM

Oh my bad, what was I thinking? Noone in the NFL EVER trades \"proven players.\" It\'s an unspoken rule. Sorry.

BRSaintsFan · 04-22-2005, 12:41 PM

Yeah, the NFL does trade proven players, but Rice and Brooks are the players that make Tampa\'s D go. I cant see them trading Rice away. However, it would be nice for us to sneak in there. I dont know what the exact value is and what pick we would have to give up. But we could have our options open at 16 and then grab Burnett at 28 and still have pick 40 open. I wouldnt mind it at all. Does anyone know what the value would be of say our 3rd or 4th rounder?

Danno · 04-22-2005, 01:11 PM

Oh my bad, what was I thinking? Noone in the NFL EVER trades \"proven players.\" It\'s an unspoken rule. Sorry.

Welcome to the \"lets poo-poo on anything anyone says that may be viewed as a positive\" world I live in Bud. We\'re all 3 glad you\'re here.

yasoon · 04-22-2005, 01:43 PM

Not saying they\'ll get rid of Simeon, but let\'s not forget that he torched his coach in the media at the end of last year. Simeon actually questioned Gruden\'s whole coaching environment.

Chucky gets angry when a guy gets in his dog house.

A coach wouldn\'t impulsively get rid of a guy over petty disagreements would he?

WhoDat · 04-22-2005, 02:06 PM

Hey - maybe we can trade Deuce for a draft pick? High second, late first? Why not? RBs are a dime a dozen in the NFL, we\'ve got a backup who went to the Pro Bowl what, two or three years ago now. Deuce is going to want a big contract that will cost us millions under the cap (just like Horn and Howard right? LOL). He\'s a liability and we need LBs. The only way to get them now is through the draft. Nevermind that the TEAM apparently isn\'t concerned enough with LB to do anything about it for 4 years. Nevermind that the TEAM is just as likely to pick a complete bust as a starter. Nevermind that we drafted Deuce with the what 12th pick 4 years ago - if we could get the 28th pick 4 years later and maybe draft a guy who might possibly be in the league in 4 years but costs less, and more importantly, lets draft fanatics theorize about who we COULD draft but WON\'T, that\'s all that matters!!!

Who\'s with me? Trade Deuce!!!

[Edited on 22/4/2005 by WhoDat]

You\'re grammur is goin down da pooper, yah moron :P

[Edited on 23/4/2005 by BlackandBlue]

WhoDat · 04-22-2005, 02:08 PM

Hey - here\'s an even better idea. Maybe we can trade the number 16 in this year\'s draft for the 20th in the 2010 draft!!! Then we can solve all our problems that year and we don\'t have to pay any players between now and then!

GumboBC · 04-22-2005, 02:09 PM

WhoDat --

I\'ll stop watching the Saints if they trade Deuce. You can find me on an Atlanta Falcons\' message board if that happens.

Go Falcons!!!

04-22-2005, 12:15 PM	#1
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Very VERY interesting rumor concerning the Chargers and pick # 28: Apr. 20 - Only one year removed from trading the rights to No. 1 pick Eli Manning, the San Diego Chargers are setting up scenarios to be big players in the first round again. This time they want to emerge with an offensive and a defensive player. The team is leaning toward keeping the No. 12 pick, but is listening to offers. One team above them has made an intriguing offer, while three teams have contacted them wanting to move up. A more likely scenario is starting to develop at No. 28. Though the other team and the player are unknown at the moment, the Chargers are considering an exchange for a veteran defensive end and a draft choice. If the Chargers can land the defensive end and the draft choice, they can concentrate on offense with their first pick. I read on another board the end is rumored to be Simeon Rice of Tampa because, oh my gosh imagine this, they need cap room to sign their picks. Can we sneak in there with Howard?

04-22-2005, 12:32 PM	#3
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	Very VERY interesting rumor concerning the Chargers Yep....sounds like untouchable material to me. :casstet:
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04-22-2005, 12:34 PM	#4
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Very VERY interesting rumor concerning the Chargers Oh my bad, what was I thinking? Noone in the NFL EVER trades \"proven players.\" It\'s an unspoken rule. Sorry.

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BRSaintsFan 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 449	Very VERY interesting rumor concerning the Chargers Yeah, the NFL does trade proven players, but Rice and Brooks are the players that make Tampa\'s D go. I cant see them trading Rice away. However, it would be nice for us to sneak in there. I dont know what the exact value is and what pick we would have to give up. But we could have our options open at 16 and then grab Burnett at 28 and still have pick 40 open. I wouldnt mind it at all. Does anyone know what the value would be of say our 3rd or 4th rounder?

04-22-2005, 01:11 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Very VERY interesting rumor concerning the Chargers Oh my bad, what was I thinking? Noone in the NFL EVER trades \"proven players.\" It\'s an unspoken rule. Sorry. Welcome to the \"lets poo-poo on anything anyone says that may be viewed as a positive\" world I live in Bud. We\'re all 3 glad you\'re here.

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LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	Very VERY interesting rumor concerning the Chargers The Bucs cannot trade Rice and another pick to get #28. Rice has had 42.5 sacks in the past 4 years. He is a good guy. He plays injured and you cannot see any dropoff. It doesn\'t matter that his contract is for $6mil this season either.

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yasoon 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 594	Very VERY interesting rumor concerning the Chargers Not saying they\'ll get rid of Simeon, but let\'s not forget that he torched his coach in the media at the end of last year. Simeon actually questioned Gruden\'s whole coaching environment. Chucky gets angry when a guy gets in his dog house. A coach wouldn\'t impulsively get rid of a guy over petty disagreements would he?
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04-22-2005, 02:06 PM	#8
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Very VERY interesting rumor concerning the Chargers Hey - maybe we can trade Deuce for a draft pick? High second, late first? Why not? RBs are a dime a dozen in the NFL, we\'ve got a backup who went to the Pro Bowl what, two or three years ago now. Deuce is going to want a big contract that will cost us millions under the cap (just like Horn and Howard right? LOL). He\'s a liability and we need LBs. The only way to get them now is through the draft. Nevermind that the TEAM apparently isn\'t concerned enough with LB to do anything about it for 4 years. Nevermind that the TEAM is just as likely to pick a complete bust as a starter. Nevermind that we drafted Deuce with the what 12th pick 4 years ago - if we could get the 28th pick 4 years later and maybe draft a guy who might possibly be in the league in 4 years but costs less, and more importantly, lets draft fanatics theorize about who we COULD draft but WON\'T, that\'s all that matters!!! Who\'s with me? Trade Deuce!!! [Edited on 22/4/2005 by WhoDat] You\'re grammur is goin down da pooper, yah moron :P [Edited on 23/4/2005 by BlackandBlue]
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WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Very VERY interesting rumor concerning the Chargers Hey - here\'s an even better idea. Maybe we can trade the number 16 in this year\'s draft for the 20th in the 2010 draft!!! Then we can solve all our problems that year and we don\'t have to pay any players between now and then!
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04-22-2005, 02:09 PM	#10
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Very VERY interesting rumor concerning the Chargers WhoDat -- I\'ll stop watching the Saints if they trade Deuce. You can find me on an Atlanta Falcons\' message board if that happens. Go Falcons!!!
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