I'd rather reach for a LB than under-react!

GumboBC · 04-22-2005, 01:38 PM

I've let myself become too fascinated with all of the highly talented players in the draft.

What I mean is: " I think about how one of the CBs might fall in our lap.". Or some other player at another position.

But the fact of the matter is, I think the only way the draft is truly going to upgrade our defense if is we draft a LB or a DT. And as strange as it might sound ... We might actually be weaker at DT than LB. Drafting a DT would not hurt my feelings at all.

I'll take a DT over a CB any day of the week!!

Drafting a CB in the 1st round would be very very foolish IMO. And I don't care if the best CB drops to us at #16.

Unless that CB can stop the run, then I'll pass.

Oh, yeah ... I know, we can always pick up a LB in the 2nd round.

Yeah, well .... according to most of the experts, all the LBs in the 2nd are not expected to be probowl caliber LBs.

IMHO ... We need a "play-maker" at LB. We need that one guy who can make a game-changing play.

Are all the years of watching sub-standard play at LB starting to affect my decision making? You bet!!

And I hope it's affecting Loomis and Haslett too!!!

I'd rather come out of this draft with the highest rated LB rather than 5 guys who might make an impact.

I'm tired or hoping one of our LBs step-up.

Maybe it is an over-reaction. But, at this point ... I'd rather over-react than under-react.

Puddinhead · 04-22-2005, 02:02 PM

I would consider one of the top CBs should he fall right to us...but like you, I\'m more inclined to jump on a DT that does the same. I personally don\'t see a \"runstuffer\" LB worthy of a first round selection in this year\'s draft (both Johnson and Davis--if move to WLB--are more \"run \'em down\" LBs than \"plug the gap\" guys), so the best course of action if we\'re intent on improving our run defense is to jump on a top DT should he fall, or go with one of the top three OT if a DT doesn\'t.

TheDeuce · 04-22-2005, 02:28 PM

Oh, yeah ... I know, we can always pick up a LB in the 2nd round.

Yeah, well .... according to most of the experts, all the LBs in the 2nd are not expected to be probowl caliber LBs.

IMHO ... We need a \"play-maker\" at LB. We need that one guy who can make a game-changing play.

THANK YOU GUMBO!!!! I have been saying this for weeks. It\'s all about the playmakers. I\'m tired of drafting mediocre players who we believe will \"make a difference.\" I\'m with you all the way.

GumboBC · 04-22-2005, 02:32 PM

I\'m tellin\' you guys ... I\'m sick of us needing LBs. Sick, I tell ya!!

Maybe the dome-patrol made me fall in love with great LBs.

Or maybe Orlando Ruff and crew made me hate our LBs.

I don\'t know. But I do know I\'m sick of worring about LBs.

What\'s it gonna take to get a play-making LB?

It\'s not like I\'m asking Loomis and Haslett to solve world hunger.

Just get me a damn play-making LB!!!

PLEASE!!!

saintswhodi · 04-22-2005, 02:37 PM

Again, awfully close to criticism.

GumboBC · 04-22-2005, 02:48 PM

Again, awfully close to criticism.

Dude, I criticize this team all the time. You don\'t think I see the problems with this team? Come on!!

The thing is ... I just don\'t expect the worst and DWELL on the past like some of you do.

saintswhodi · 04-22-2005, 02:49 PM

To answer your question, no I do not think you see the problems with this team. :P

GumboBC · 04-22-2005, 02:51 PM

To answer your question, no I do not think you see the problems with this team. :P

The problem with this team is Aaron Brooks. He can\'t read defenses and racks up stats in garbage time.

And Joe Horn makes him look better than what he is.

If only we would have had another QB then we would have been in the playoffs every year.

It\'s a damn shame. A damn shame, I tell ya!!!

[Edited on 22/4/2005 by GumboBC]

saintswhodi · 04-22-2005, 02:53 PM

A little over the top, but you are getting warmer. :P

BrooksMustGo · 04-22-2005, 03:23 PM

Given the changes in the rules that CB\'s have in the passing game since last season--I\'m not sure there\'s a CB in this year\'s class worth giving a 1st rounder for.

I don\'t see a true 2 gap DT (ala Wilfork) coming out. I think Patterson from USC is an interesting prospect, but looks like another 1 gap guy and we have several of those.

A LB wouldn\'t hurt my feelings, in fact I\'d be pretty happy with anyone but Crowder. What I keep kicking around are 2 questions.

1. What if Barron or Brown freakishly falls to 16?
2. What if Mike Williams falls to 16?

I\'d take any of those 3 guys before I\'d take a Thomas Davis. I\'d also rather take the chance that Odell Thurman or Ruud is there in round 2.

I\'d still prefer to go with a BPA strategy than take just any linebacker. I\'d even be in favor of swapping places with the Bengals to give them a shot at Davis and pick up a 3rd or 4rth rounder from them.

.02

04-22-2005, 01:38 PM	#1
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	I'd rather reach for a LB than under-react! I've let myself become too fascinated with all of the highly talented players in the draft. What I mean is: " I think about how one of the CBs might fall in our lap.". Or some other player at another position. But the fact of the matter is, I think the only way the draft is truly going to upgrade our defense if is we draft a LB or a DT. And as strange as it might sound ... We might actually be weaker at DT than LB. Drafting a DT would not hurt my feelings at all. I'll take a DT over a CB any day of the week!! Drafting a CB in the 1st round would be very very foolish IMO. And I don't care if the best CB drops to us at #16. Unless that CB can stop the run, then I'll pass. Oh, yeah ... I know, we can always pick up a LB in the 2nd round. Yeah, well .... according to most of the experts, all the LBs in the 2nd are not expected to be probowl caliber LBs. IMHO ... We need a "play-maker" at LB. We need that one guy who can make a game-changing play. Are all the years of watching sub-standard play at LB starting to affect my decision making? You bet!! And I hope it's affecting Loomis and Haslett too!!! I'd rather come out of this draft with the highest rated LB rather than 5 guys who might make an impact. I'm tired or hoping one of our LBs step-up. Maybe it is an over-reaction. But, at this point ... I'd rather over-react than under-react.
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04-22-2005, 02:02 PM	#2
Puddinhead 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 102	I'd rather reach for a LB than under-react! I would consider one of the top CBs should he fall right to us...but like you, I\'m more inclined to jump on a DT that does the same. I personally don\'t see a \"runstuffer\" LB worthy of a first round selection in this year\'s draft (both Johnson and Davis--if move to WLB--are more \"run \'em down\" LBs than \"plug the gap\" guys), so the best course of action if we\'re intent on improving our run defense is to jump on a top DT should he fall, or go with one of the top three OT if a DT doesn\'t.
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04-22-2005, 02:28 PM	#3
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	I'd rather reach for a LB than under-react! Oh, yeah ... I know, we can always pick up a LB in the 2nd round. Yeah, well .... according to most of the experts, all the LBs in the 2nd are not expected to be probowl caliber LBs. IMHO ... We need a \"play-maker\" at LB. We need that one guy who can make a game-changing play. THANK YOU GUMBO!!!! I have been saying this for weeks. It\'s all about the playmakers. I\'m tired of drafting mediocre players who we believe will \"make a difference.\" I\'m with you all the way.
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04-22-2005, 02:32 PM	#4
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	I'd rather reach for a LB than under-react! I\'m tellin\' you guys ... I\'m sick of us needing LBs. Sick, I tell ya!! Maybe the dome-patrol made me fall in love with great LBs. Or maybe Orlando Ruff and crew made me hate our LBs. I don\'t know. But I do know I\'m sick of worring about LBs. What\'s it gonna take to get a play-making LB? It\'s not like I\'m asking Loomis and Haslett to solve world hunger. Just get me a damn play-making LB!!! PLEASE!!!
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04-22-2005, 02:37 PM	#5
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I'd rather reach for a LB than under-react! Again, awfully close to criticism.

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04-22-2005, 02:48 PM	#6
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	I'd rather reach for a LB than under-react! Again, awfully close to criticism. Dude, I criticize this team all the time. You don\'t think I see the problems with this team? Come on!! The thing is ... I just don\'t expect the worst and DWELL on the past like some of you do.
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04-22-2005, 02:49 PM	#7
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I'd rather reach for a LB than under-react! To answer your question, no I do not think you see the problems with this team. :P

04-22-2005, 02:51 PM	#8
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	I'd rather reach for a LB than under-react! To answer your question, no I do not think you see the problems with this team. :P The problem with this team is Aaron Brooks. He can\'t read defenses and racks up stats in garbage time. And Joe Horn makes him look better than what he is. If only we would have had another QB then we would have been in the playoffs every year. It\'s a damn shame. A damn shame, I tell ya!!! [Edited on 22/4/2005 by GumboBC]
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04-22-2005, 02:53 PM	#9
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I'd rather reach for a LB than under-react! A little over the top, but you are getting warmer. :P

04-22-2005, 03:23 PM	#10
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	I'd rather reach for a LB than under-react! Given the changes in the rules that CB\'s have in the passing game since last season--I\'m not sure there\'s a CB in this year\'s class worth giving a 1st rounder for. I don\'t see a true 2 gap DT (ala Wilfork) coming out. I think Patterson from USC is an interesting prospect, but looks like another 1 gap guy and we have several of those. A LB wouldn\'t hurt my feelings, in fact I\'d be pretty happy with anyone but Crowder. What I keep kicking around are 2 questions. 1. What if Barron or Brown freakishly falls to 16? 2. What if Mike Williams falls to 16? I\'d take any of those 3 guys before I\'d take a Thomas Davis. I\'d also rather take the chance that Odell Thurman or Ruud is there in round 2. I\'d still prefer to go with a BPA strategy than take just any linebacker. I\'d even be in favor of swapping places with the Bengals to give them a shot at Davis and pick up a 3rd or 4rth rounder from them. .02
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