Armistead and Rankins

SmashMouth · 02-04-2018, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Don't forget that 2nd they wasted on Kamara

Not sure at his OROY juncture I would characterize a "wasted 2nd rounder".

rezburna · 02-04-2018, 12:40 PM

I’d trade Armstead for any pick in the 1st or 2nd round....especially with the way we drafted last year.

K Major · 02-04-2018, 12:52 PM

Conversations of moving on from Rankins ... silly talk.

voodooido · 02-04-2018, 03:13 PM

Neither is going anywhere. TA could never be released or traded with his ridiculous contract. They will probably restructure and let him stick around for two more years until they can afford to eat his contract. Rankins is doing exactly what he is supposed to do. Eating up the o-line and freeing the lbs.

spkb25 · 02-04-2018, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Rankins is playing better each season. He should be even better with an experienced Onyemata and an upgrade at DE.

His numbers are Ellis-ish

spkb25 · 02-04-2018, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Conversations of moving on from Rankins ... silly talk.

Maybe, but I also think it is silly talk to hear people discuss Rankins as the second coming of Christ when he is putting up numbers like Ellis and all we did was talk about how he was a bust.

This is only his second year, which is why if we were going to move him now might be ideal since he probably still has value. Another year of last season stats and...well we will get nothing. Then again maybe he turns it around in year 3.

spkb25 · 02-04-2018, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Neither is going anywhere. TA could never be released or traded with his ridiculous contract. They will probably restructure and let him stick around for two more years until they can afford to eat his contract. Rankins is doing exactly what he is supposed to do. Eating up the o-line and freeing the lbs.

Rankins is supposed to get after the QB from the DT spot or so we were sold. I remember when we drafted him it being said he was going to apply the pressure from the inside. He's not doing that. NF had 6 sakcs last year from the DT spot and a whole bunch of hurries and pressures.

spkb25 · 02-04-2018, 07:17 PM

So hard to say with TA because he is such a talent but man it is like he is hurt constantly. Even when healthy he goes down mid-game for a some plays.

If we could unload him...I would. For the right price.

Hope Rankins tears it up and maybe getting him some inside help would prove the difference, but I might move the guy if we could get something worthwhile.

the-commish · 02-04-2018, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’d keep Rankins. He’s still on a rookie contract, and I don’t think he was as big of a let down as others said this year.

As far as Armstead, he’s like Jamal Brown at the point when we traded him to the Redskins. He just can’t stay healthy. We have a tackle who can step in and take his spot so I have no fear of moving him. Maybe we can use that money to sign Jarvis Landry!

I think Peat is much better at LG than he would be at LT. Peat does not have quick feet, so he's better off inside where he's not generally dealing with outside pass rushers. And tackles have to move more laterally than guards do.

If they trade Armstead... I would move Ranczyk to LT, and find another RT.

spkb25 · 02-04-2018, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by the-commish

I think Peat is much better at LG than he would be at LT. Peat does not have quick feet, so he's better off inside where he's not generally dealing with outside pass rushers. And tackles have to move more laterally than guards do.

If they trade Armstead... I would move Ranczyk to LT, and find another RT.

Peat played a bunch of LT without armistead this season, and some last season too. We kept sliding Peat down and senio to guard.

I think Peat is fine at LT, at least from what I have seen

He does mull people at guard though

02-04-2018, 10:56 AM	#11
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,092 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Armistead and Rankins Originally Posted by vpheughan Don't forget that 2nd they wasted on Kamara Not sure at his OROY juncture I would characterize a "wasted 2nd rounder". foreverfan likes this.

02-04-2018, 12:40 PM	#12
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,877	Re: Armistead and Rankins I’d trade Armstead for any pick in the 1st or 2nd round....especially with the way we drafted last year. spkb25, Rugby Saint II and MarchingOn like this.

02-04-2018, 12:52 PM	#13
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02-04-2018, 03:13 PM	#14
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02-04-2018, 07:09 PM	#16
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Armistead and Rankins Originally Posted by K Major Conversations of moving on from Rankins ... silly talk. Maybe, but I also think it is silly talk to hear people discuss Rankins as the second coming of Christ when he is putting up numbers like Ellis and all we did was talk about how he was a bust. This is only his second year, which is why if we were going to move him now might be ideal since he probably still has value. Another year of last season stats and...well we will get nothing. Then again maybe he turns it around in year 3.

02-04-2018, 07:10 PM	#17
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Armistead and Rankins Originally Posted by voodooido Neither is going anywhere. TA could never be released or traded with his ridiculous contract. They will probably restructure and let him stick around for two more years until they can afford to eat his contract. Rankins is doing exactly what he is supposed to do. Eating up the o-line and freeing the lbs. Rankins is supposed to get after the QB from the DT spot or so we were sold. I remember when we drafted him it being said he was going to apply the pressure from the inside. He's not doing that. NF had 6 sakcs last year from the DT spot and a whole bunch of hurries and pressures.

02-04-2018, 07:17 PM	#18
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Armistead and Rankins So hard to say with TA because he is such a talent but man it is like he is hurt constantly. Even when healthy he goes down mid-game for a some plays. If we could unload him...I would. For the right price. Hope Rankins tears it up and maybe getting him some inside help would prove the difference, but I might move the guy if we could get something worthwhile.

02-04-2018, 07:22 PM	#19
the-commish Longtime WhoDat Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 529	Re: Armistead and Rankins Originally Posted by rezburna I’d keep Rankins. He’s still on a rookie contract, and I don’t think he was as big of a let down as others said this year. As far as Armstead, he’s like Jamal Brown at the point when we traded him to the Redskins. He just can’t stay healthy. We have a tackle who can step in and take his spot so I have no fear of moving him. Maybe we can use that money to sign Jarvis Landry! I think Peat is much better at LG than he would be at LT. Peat does not have quick feet, so he's better off inside where he's not generally dealing with outside pass rushers. And tackles have to move more laterally than guards do. If they trade Armstead... I would move Ranczyk to LT, and find another RT. Crusader and Rugby Saint II like this.

02-04-2018, 07:34 PM	#20
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Armistead and Rankins Originally Posted by the-commish I think Peat is much better at LG than he would be at LT. Peat does not have quick feet, so he's better off inside where he's not generally dealing with outside pass rushers. And tackles have to move more laterally than guards do. If they trade Armstead... I would move Ranczyk to LT, and find another RT. Peat played a bunch of LT without armistead this season, and some last season too. We kept sliding Peat down and senio to guard. I think Peat is fine at LT, at least from what I have seen He does mull people at guard though

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