2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

ChrisXVI · 06-01-2018, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/SaintsNOW/status...34751793123328

I suppose we just have to have faith in the coaching staff. From what I’ve seen of Jamerson I haven’t really seen a press-man CB. He seems to be at his best playing off in a zone and using his great closing speed to make a play on the ball.

His D-Coordinator/DB Coach was Jim Leonhard so if he’s vouching for the kid’s abilities then who am I to question it?

jeanpierre · 06-02-2018, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I suppose we just have to have faith in the coaching staff. From what I’ve seen of Jamerson I haven’t really seen a press-man CB. He seems to be at his best playing off in a zone and using his great closing speed to make a play on the ball.

His D-Coordinator/DB Coach was Jim Leonhard so if he’s vouching for the kid’s abilities then who am I to question it?

I get that, but there's a body of work (film, gameplay) out there that suggests he took off when he moved to safety...

Bill Walsh claimed Ronnie Lott was a better cornerback than safety, but at least Walsh was honest enough to not mess with what was working...

Payton/Allen are overthinking this...

Rugby Saint II · 06-03-2018, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I get that, but there's a body of work (film, gameplay) out there that suggests he took off when he moved to safety...

Bill Walsh claimed Ronnie Lott was a better cornerback than safety, but at least Walsh was honest enough to not mess with what was working...

Payton/Allen are overthinking this...

They have a history of doing just that. Evil geniuses with too much time on their hands.

jeanpierre · 06-04-2018, 04:39 AM

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2018 New Orleans Saints – OTAs 5-7 June

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2018), 7 - Taysom Hill, 12 - Tom Savage (FA 2018), 5 - J.T. Barrett (UDFA)

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram *[SUSPENDED], 41 - Alvin Kamara, 42 - Zach Line (FA 2018)

30 - Boston Scott (R6, #201), 32 - Jonathan Williams, 33 - Trey Edmunds, 35 - Ryan Yurachek (UDFA), 36 - Daniel Lasco

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith (R3, #91), 16 - Brandon Coleman (RFA 2018),

11 - Tommylee Lewis, 14 - Travin Dural (RFC), 15 - Josh Huff (RFC), 17 - Paul Turner (RFC), 18 - Keith Kirkwood (UDFA)

SR (2) 81 - Cameron Meredith (RFA 2018), 80 - Austin Carr, 85 - Dan Arnold, 86 - Eldridge Massington (UDFA)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA 2018), 69 - Nate Wozniak (UDFA)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 79 - Josh LeRibeus (FA 2018), 77 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner (RFC)

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 64 - Will Clapp (R7, #245), 63 - Cameron Tom

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 66 – Andrew Tiller (RFC), 61 - Cory Helms (UDFA)

RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Rick Leonard (R4, #127), 65 - Michael Ola (FA -2018)

TE (3) 82 - Ben Watson (FA 2018), 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 83 - Deon Yelder (UDFA)

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 90 - George Johnson (FA 2018), 70 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 68 – Devaroe Lawrence, 62 - Henry Mondeaux (UDFA)

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 99 - Jay Bromley (FA 2018), 96 - Woodrow Hamilton, 76 - Taylor Stallworth (UDFA)

DE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport (R1, #14), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad, 57 - Alex Okafor (FA 2018), 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar, 55 – Jayrone Elliot (RFC)

MLB (3) 56 - DeMario Davis (FA 2018), 51 - Manti Te'o, 58 - Colton Jumper (UDFA)

WLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 52 - Craig Robertson, 59 - KeShun Freeman (UDFA)

LCB (2) 20 - Ken Crawley, 21 - Patrick Robinson (FA 2018), 37 - Arthur Maulet

SS (2) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell, 48 - J.T. Gray (UDFA)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo, 38 - Sharrod Neasman (FA 2018)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 26 - P.J. Williams, 25 – De’Vante Harris

NCB (2)*** 34 - Justin Hardee, 27 - Natrell Jamerson (R5, #164), 39 - Kamrin Moore (R6, #189), 40 - Linden Stephens (UDFA)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (FA 2018)

Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 46; Defense: 41; Kicking: 3

*Note: 22 RB Mark Ingram has a pending suspension of four games to begin the 2018 NFL Season

**Note: 69 DE Alex Jenkins (NFL IPPP) roster spot is exempt in the team total players per NFL Int'l Player Pathway Program

***Note: In traditional nickel packages, Robinson takes slot, while Crawley will take outside corner, both will compete as starting LCB in base defense

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Signed (FA 2018)

Free Agent Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC)

Rookie

Injured

jeanpierre · 06-04-2018, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

His D-Coordinator/DB Coach was Jim Leonhard so if he’s vouching for the kid’s abilities then who am I to question it?

Leonhard had been signed by the Saints as a Free Agent in 2013, but released before the season; again, Saints reaching out to those they're familiar for scouting...

K Major · 06-04-2018, 09:09 AM

We will just have to wait and see how training camp unfolds for the rookies.

jeanpierre · 06-04-2018, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

We will just have to wait and see how training camp unfolds for the rookies.

Reworked the Depth Chart to more accurately reflect the game today, especially the passing emphasis, treating nickel as a time-share with SLB...

Patrick Robinson most likely will be in the slot on the traditional nickel, while Vonn Bell will come in on the Saints' heavy nickel packages...

P-Rob and Crawley should have a nice training camp battle; but I agree with KMajor about having another vet; I preferred bringing back a healthy Breaux...

Have more faith in PJ Williams than most and feel he's had a run of bad luck; he can turn it around, but his problem now - where's he gonna get the reps?

K Major · 06-04-2018, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

P-Rob and Crawley should have a nice training camp battle; but I agree with KMajor about having another vet; I preferred bringing back a healthy Breaux...

As of today, still unsigned. At a position where most in NFL front offices think you can never have enough of... has me wondering what else is going on behind the scenes. Bad rep or the rehab isn't as good as what we are hearing and reading.

But completely agree JP, I'd love to have him Breaux back in camp. What would it hurt? If he doesn't have it, give him the tap (cut him).

jeanpierre · 06-04-2018, 08:04 PM

saintsfan1976 · 06-04-2018, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I could see your point at almost any other position, but edge rushers have one main job and that is to get to the QB. Raw physical ability can trump technique at this position. I would be shocked if Davenport wasn't a major part of the defensive front come week one, if not much, much sooner. Totally shocked.

That's a really good point. I hope he picks it up that fast too.

06-01-2018, 10:27 PM	#261
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre https://twitter.com/SaintsNOW/status...34751793123328 I suppose we just have to have faith in the coaching staff. From what I’ve seen of Jamerson I haven’t really seen a press-man CB. He seems to be at his best playing off in a zone and using his great closing speed to make a play on the ball. His D-Coordinator/DB Coach was Jim Leonhard so if he’s vouching for the kid’s abilities then who am I to question it? jeanpierre likes this.

06-02-2018, 06:15 PM	#262
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I suppose we just have to have faith in the coaching staff. From what I’ve seen of Jamerson I haven’t really seen a press-man CB. He seems to be at his best playing off in a zone and using his great closing speed to make a play on the ball. His D-Coordinator/DB Coach was Jim Leonhard so if he’s vouching for the kid’s abilities then who am I to question it? I get that, but there's a body of work (film, gameplay) out there that suggests he took off when he moved to safety... Bill Walsh claimed Ronnie Lott was a better cornerback than safety, but at least Walsh was honest enough to not mess with what was working... Payton/Allen are overthinking this... Rugby Saint II and ChrisXVI like this.

06-03-2018, 02:14 PM	#263
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre I get that, but there's a body of work (film, gameplay) out there that suggests he took off when he moved to safety... Bill Walsh claimed Ronnie Lott was a better cornerback than safety, but at least Walsh was honest enough to not mess with what was working... Payton/Allen are overthinking this... They have a history of doing just that. Evil geniuses with too much time on their hands.

06-04-2018, 04:39 AM	#264
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2018 New Orleans Saints – OTAs 5-7 June OFFENSE QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2018), 7 - Taysom Hill, 12 - Tom Savage (FA 2018), 5 - J.T. Barrett (UDFA) RB (5) *22 - Mark Ingram [SUSPENDED], 41 - Alvin Kamara, 42 - Zach Line (FA 2018) 30 - Boston Scott (R6, #201), 32 - Jonathan Williams, 33 - Trey Edmunds, 35 - Ryan Yurachek (UDFA), 36 - Daniel Lasco WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas*, 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith (R3, #91), 16 - Brandon Coleman (RFA 2018), 11 - Tommylee Lewis, 14 - Travin Dural (RFC), 15 - Josh Huff (RFC), 17 - Paul Turner (RFC), 18 - Keith Kirkwood (UDFA) SR (2) 81 - Cameron Meredith (RFA 2018), 80 - Austin Carr, 85 - Dan Arnold, 86 - Eldridge Massington (UDFA) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA 2018), 69 - Nate Wozniak (UDFA) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 79 - Josh LeRibeus (FA 2018), 77 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner (RFC)* C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 64 - Will Clapp (R7, #245), 63 - Cameron Tom RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 66 – Andrew Tiller (RFC), 61 - Cory Helms (UDFA) RT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 73 - Rick Leonard (R4, #127), 65 - Michael Ola (FA -2018) TE (3) *82 - Ben Watson (FA 2018), 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 83 - Deon Yelder (UDFA) DEFENSE* DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 90 - George Johnson (FA 2018), 70 - Mitchell Loewen DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 68 – Devaroe Lawrence, 62 - Henry Mondeaux (UDFA) NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 99 - Jay Bromley (FA 2018), 96 - Woodrow Hamilton, 76 - Taylor Stallworth (UDFA) DE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport (R1, #14), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad, 57 - Alex Okafor (FA 2018), 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar, 55 – Jayrone Elliot (RFC) MLB (3) 56 - DeMario Davis (FA 2018), 51 - Manti Te'o, 58 - Colton Jumper (UDFA) WLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 52 - Craig Robertson, 59 - KeShun Freeman (UDFA) LCB (2) 20 - Ken Crawley, *21 - Patrick Robinson (FA 2018), 37 - Arthur Maulet SS (2) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell, 48 - J.T. Gray (UDFA) FS (2) 43 - Marcus Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo, 38 - Sharrod Neasman (FA 2018)* RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 26 - P.J. Williams, 25 – De’Vante Harris NCB (2)***** 34 - Justin Hardee, 27 - Natrell Jamerson (R5, #164), 39 - Kamrin Moore (R6, #189), 40 - Linden Stephens (UDFA) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (FA 2018) Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 46; Defense: 41; Kicking: 3 Note: 22 RB Mark Ingram has a pending suspension of four games to begin the 2018 NFL Season* *Note: 69 DE Alex Jenkins (NFL IPPP) roster spot is exempt in the team total players per NFL Int'l Player Pathway Program* **Note: In traditional nickel packages, Robinson takes slot, while Crawley will take outside corner, both will compete as starting LCB in base defense* KEY: Projected Starter** Free Agent Signed (FA 2018) Free Agent Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC) Rookie Injured
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by ChrisXVI His D-Coordinator/DB Coach was *Jim Leonhard* so if he’s vouching for the kid’s abilities then who am I to question it? Leonhard had been signed by the Saints as a Free Agent in 2013, but released before the season; again, Saints reaching out to those they're familiar for scouting...

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook We will just have to wait and see how training camp unfolds for the rookies.

06-04-2018, 10:33 AM	#267
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major We will just have to wait and see how training camp unfolds for the rookies. Reworked the Depth Chart to more accurately reflect the game today, especially the passing emphasis, treating nickel as a time-share with SLB... Patrick Robinson most likely will be in the slot on the traditional nickel, while Vonn Bell will come in on the Saints' heavy nickel packages... P-Rob and Crawley should have a nice training camp battle; but I agree with KMajor about having another vet; I preferred bringing back a healthy Breaux... Have more faith in PJ Williams than most and feel he's had a run of bad luck; he can turn it around, but his problem now - where's he gonna get the reps?
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre P-Rob and Crawley should have a nice training camp battle; but I agree with KMajor about having another vet; I preferred bringing back a healthy Breaux... As of today, still unsigned. At a position where most in NFL front offices think you can never have enough of... has me wondering what else is going on behind the scenes. Bad rep or the rehab isn't as good as what we are hearing and reading. But completely agree JP, I'd love to have him Breaux back in camp. What would it hurt? If he doesn't have it, give him the tap (cut him). jeanpierre likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I could see your point at almost any other position, but edge rushers have one main job and that is to get to the QB. Raw physical ability can trump technique at this position. I would be shocked if Davenport wasn't a major part of the defensive front come week one, if not much, much sooner. Totally shocked. That's a really good point. I hope he picks it up that fast too.

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