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Old 04-29-2018, 08:42 PM   #1
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Well, we may not have a Pro-Bowl level Tight End on the roster, the competition should be pretty d*mn keen this summer...

Ben Watson vs Coby Fleener - at the very least, this may be what Fleener needs to shake the pixie dust out of his eyes...

Deon Yelder vs Josh Hill - Hill seemed to get off-track for a while and now we find out if Yelder was legit or a beneficiary of Mike White...

Nate Wozniak vs Michael Hoomanawanui - Hoo has stayed healthy only one season, a younger blocking TE could solve the availability issue...
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Well, we may not have a Pro-Bowl level Tight End on the roster, the competition should be pretty d*mn keen this summer...

Ben Watson vs Coby Fleener - at the very least, this may be what Fleener needs to shake the pixie dust out of his eyes...

Deon Yelder vs Josh Hill - Hill seemed to get off-track for a while and now we find out if Yelder was legit or a beneficiary of Mike White...

Nate Wozniak vs Michael Hoomanawanui - Hoo has stayed healthy only one season, a younger blocking TE could solve the availability issue...
And save cap $ by going younger and UDFA.
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Old 04-29-2018, 11:56 PM   #3
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And save cap $ by going younger and UDFA.
True. But most of our expensive TEs really aren't costing much or we don't have long-term commitments...

Trust will be the key theme for the Tight End position over the summer as we get ready for a SB run this Fall...
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True. But most of our expensive TEs really aren't costing much or we don't have long-term commitments...

Trust will be the key theme for the Tight End position over the summer as we get ready for a SB run this Fall...
What if we cut Fleecer?
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What if we cut Fleecer?
Well, these are the questions I'm asking myself when considering that move...

First, is he an imminent threat, problem, or impediment to the team's success and chemistry?

Second, is there a currently a player available who would have more of an impact, even at another position, whereby that money could be spent?

Third, has the team, players, coaches, and support staff, done all it could to make him and this team better?

In so far as the first question, he hasn't necessarily been a problem, but some players may or may not have taken to him...

To the second question, the Saints were willing to give Fleener's pay slot to Jimmy Graham, but not a penny more, so there wasn't anyone else on the market better...

And to the last question, the Drew Factor doesn't seem to have helped Fleener and maybe Payton didn't draw a clear path plan for what he envisioned for Fleener with the Saints...

Would I have like to have upgraded Tight End? Yes.

Do I think the Saints should have maybe sweetened the pot for Graham? Possibly, but I respected their discipline (until they lost it in the Draft)...

He's an experienced Tight End who's biggest challenge is consistency - find that cause, see if it's fixable both on his and the team's part...

But let the competition play out and see if he's one of the Top 3 Tight Ends when we break camp...

Let him win or lose the roster spot at this point - don't keep it to "develop" another player - Jim Mora did that for the league for years...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...
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And to the last question, the Drew Factor doesn't seem to have helped Fleener ...
Actually, I think it did. Fleener caught 70% of his targets last season. That’s the highest rate of his career. And I don’t remember any big drops from him. Last season his problem was availability. None of the other TEs factored in much either so suspect TE was an afterthought most of the time in the scheme last year.
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