Goodbye Tackle Football?

SmashMouth · 03-29-2018, 09:11 AM

So now we are going to maybe have players disqualified. It’s not automatic like college, but that’s pretty close.

The reason the targeting rule is tough is because 200 pound-plus men are moving at amazing speeds and making split-second reactions. They simply can’t think of where or what their head is doing. Teaching tackling is part of the process, but this really seems difficult to officiate.

We though deciding what a catch was had some issues. This is nuts. How are officials going to do this consistently? What happens when the star of a game is maybe ejected after the first drive. If the NFL officiates this by the letter of the law teams could have 20 players by the end of the game.

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2...argeting-rule/

darksoul35 · 03-29-2018, 09:19 AM

It keeps getting worse.

K Major · 03-29-2018, 09:37 AM

burningmetal · 03-29-2018, 09:45 AM

This is why, at any level of football, there has to be a replay system for anything involving head contact (though high school football wouldn't be able to afford such a system).

The fact that the helmet to helmet foul has existed for years and, by the NFL' own admission, helmet to helmet contact is going UP, and significantly, at that, goes to show that these rules have never and WILL never make the game safer.

A replay should be used only to determine (as best as possible) whether there was intent or not. All other head contact should not be a foul, because it's just not realistic that rules will change the nature of a violent sport. You have to decide if you are going to play tackle football (to the OP's point) or flag football. If you choose to play tackle football, there is no such thing as a safe game, and rules will not cause people to change their natural reactions in the heat of split second decisions, in a game that moves at a hundred miles an hour.

The rules will only change how much officials will be allowed to decide games. This has been a growing problem over the years, as it is. It's ridiculous.

jeanpierre · 03-29-2018, 09:46 AM

The Pussification of America is nearly complete...

Nikita Khrushchev was right - our foreign enemies will walk in without firing a shot...

SmashMouth · 03-29-2018, 09:55 AM

Rugby seems to do OK.

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Srgt. Hulka · 03-29-2018, 10:05 AM

Soooo, when the ball carrier lowers his head just before he's tackled, is that an offensive penalty?

MatthewT · 03-29-2018, 10:19 AM

Can't wait for the XFL.

K Major · 03-29-2018, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka

Soooo, when the ball carrier lowers his head just before he's tackled, is that an offensive penalty?

My thoughts as well. This is beginning to become a little too complicated for me to grasp. The "old school" league is long gone.

Forget this new rule for second ... I still don't know what the hell a catch is anymore in the NFL

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frydaddy · 03-29-2018, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Can't wait for the XFL.

It's looking better and better all the time.

03-29-2018, 09:11 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 36,958 Blog Entries: 29	Goodbye Tackle Football? Twitter Twitter So now we are going to maybe have players disqualified. It’s not automatic like college, but that’s pretty close. The reason the targeting rule is tough is because 200 pound-plus men are moving at amazing speeds and making split-second reactions. They simply can’t think of where or what their head is doing. Teaching tackling is part of the process, but this really seems difficult to officiate. We though deciding what a catch was had some issues. This is nuts. How are officials going to do this consistently? What happens when the star of a game is maybe ejected after the first drive. If the NFL officiates this by the letter of the law teams could have 20 players by the end of the game. https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2...argeting-rule/

03-29-2018, 09:19 AM	#2
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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Goodbye Tackle Football? This is why, at any level of football, there has to be a replay system for anything involving head contact (though high school football wouldn't be able to afford such a system). The fact that the helmet to helmet foul has existed for years and, by the NFL' own admission, helmet to helmet contact is going UP, and significantly, at that, goes to show that these rules have never and WILL never make the game safer. A replay should be used only to determine (as best as possible) whether there was intent or not. All other head contact should not be a foul, because it's just not realistic that rules will change the nature of a violent sport. You have to decide if you are going to play tackle football (to the OP's point) or flag football. If you choose to play tackle football, there is no such thing as a safe game, and rules will not cause people to change their natural reactions in the heat of split second decisions, in a game that moves at a hundred miles an hour. The rules will only change how much officials will be allowed to decide games. This has been a growing problem over the years, as it is. It's ridiculous. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,017 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Goodbye Tackle Football? Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka Soooo, when the ball carrier lowers his head just before he's tackled, is that an offensive penalty? My thoughts as well. This is beginning to become a little too complicated for me to grasp. The "old school" league is long gone. Forget this new rule for second ... I still don't know what the hell a catch is anymore in the NFL . jnormand and SmashMouth like this.

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