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jeanpierre 04-27-2018 10:01 PM
Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day
 

SmashMouth 04-27-2018 10:14 PM
Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day
 
Saints go OL next, IMHO.

jeanpierre 04-27-2018 10:30 PM
Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 800307)
Big playmaking receiver who catches everything thrown his way AND can take the top off the defense. 3rd down’s are his bread and butter. Absolutely great pick.
Chris, I gotta lot of respect for your knowledge, but I'd like to know what you're basing that on...

What I've seen in Tra'Quan is unsure hands, bobbles balls/un-clean catches against his body...

He struggles against press corners and I don't seem him taking the top off defenses with a 4.49 sec 40...

While only 6-1, his arms are longer than his height - but he doesn't show a large catch radius, catching many balls against his body...

His route running is, well, raw, undiscipline, rounding off routes, lacking suddeness in his breaks...

One of his positives is that he is a willing and able blocker downfield for teammates...

But we didn't need to take a slightly better Brandon Coleman in Round 3 - he was a Round 5 pick at best...

Especially with guys like DT Harrison Phillips, OL Alex Cappa, TE Dalton Schultz, QB Kyle Lauletta still available...

As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years...

And if we're drafting because of a window on Drew Brees, I'm especially p*ssed off that we've mortgaged the future for one guy...

Further, where was this urgency since the Superbowl win in 2010 or even three years ago?

Rsanders24 04-27-2018 10:33 PM
Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 800306)
Gotta admit I don't know much about him, I am liking what I'm seeing though. They're saying he's a project but that shouldn't be a problem this year. Hopefully he's ready to go year 2, we let Ginn walk and we run with a big, young WR corps.
It took a minute but this pick is starting to grow on me. He should get plenty of reps with Meredith slowly getting back in the mix and I feel he will contribute early with a little coaching from Coach CJ.

Barry from MS 04-27-2018 10:55 PM
Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 800328)

As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years...
Y'all might hate me for saying so, but this draft feels like garbage as far as value goes. Davenport for next yrs 1st regardless if its 1 or 32 is a huge risk considering how raw he is. I like this receiver, but raw as can be too. Coulda got him later.

Our coaches are in for alotta work with these 2. We're swinging for the fences, but looking like we hit ourselves in the back of the head with the bat.

Ill gladly eat crow if I'm wrong, but I get this sunken gut feeling we're reverting to a 2014-type class. Got the same feeling then. We'll see when the pads go on, though. We still have 4-7 rds & UDFAs to get a better feel.

SmashMouth 04-27-2018 10:55 PM
Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 800328)
Chris, I gotta lot of respect for your knowledge, but I'd like to know what you're basing that on...

What I've seen in Tra'Quan is unsure hands, bobbles balls/un-clean catches against his body...

He struggles against press corners and I don't seem him taking the top off defenses with a 4.49 sec 40...

While only 6-1, his arms are longer than his height - but he doesn't show a large catch radius, catching many balls against his body...

His route running is, well, raw, undiscipline, rounding off routes, lacking suddeness in his breaks...

One of his positives is that he is a willing and able blocker downfield for teammates...

But we didn't need to take a slightly better Brandon Coleman in Round 3 - he was a Round 5 pick at best...

Especially with guys like DT Harrison Phillips, OL Alex Cappa, TE Dalton Schultz, QB Kyle Lauletta still available...

As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years...

And if we're drafting because of a window on Drew Brees, I'm especially p*ssed off that we've mortgaged the future for one guy...

Further, where was this urgency since the Superbowl win in 2010 or even three years ago?
I could see some of that... but in Ireland we trust? I never like trading up. Maybe Tre'Quan will be used like a TE?

saintfan 04-27-2018 10:57 PM
Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 800328)
Chris, I gotta lot of respect for your knowledge, but I'd like to know what you're basing that on...

What I've seen in Tra'Quan is unsure hands, bobbles balls/un-clean catches against his body...

He struggles against press corners and I don't seem him taking the top off defenses with a 4.49 sec 40...

While only 6-1, his arms are longer than his height - but he doesn't show a large catch radius, catching many balls against his body...

His route running is, well, raw, undiscipline, rounding off routes, lacking suddeness in his breaks...

One of his positives is that he is a willing and able blocker downfield for teammates...

But we didn't need to take a slightly better Brandon Coleman in Round 3 - he was a Round 5 pick at best...

Especially with guys like DT Harrison Phillips, OL Alex Cappa, TE Dalton Schultz, QB Kyle Lauletta still available...

As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years...

And if we're drafting because of a window on Drew Brees, I'm especially p*ssed off that we've mortgaged the future for one guy...

Further, where was this urgency since the Superbowl win in 2010 or even three years ago?
Gil Brandt was praising the pick on the radio.

SmashMouth 04-27-2018 11:01 PM
Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 800335)
Gil Brandt was praising the pick on the radio.
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K Major 04-27-2018 11:04 PM
Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 800328)
Chris, I gotta lot of respect for your knowledge, but I'd like to know what you're basing that on...

What I've seen in Tra'Quan is unsure hands, bobbles balls/un-clean catches against his body...

He struggles against press corners and I don't seem him taking the top off defenses with a 4.49 sec 40...

While only 6-1, his arms are longer than his height - but he doesn't show a large catch radius, catching many balls against his body...

His route running is, well, raw, undiscipline, rounding off routes, lacking suddeness in his breaks...

One of his positives is that he is a willing and able blocker downfield for teammates...

But we didn't need to take a slightly better Brandon Coleman in Round 3 - he was a Round 5 pick at best...

Especially with guys like DT Harrison Phillips, OL Alex Cappa, TE Dalton Schultz, QB Kyle Lauletta still available...

As fortunate as last year's draft was, I'm not very optimistic about the grade on this draft in three years...

And if we're drafting because of a window on Drew Brees, I'm especially p*ssed off that we've mortgaged the future for one guy...

Further, where was this urgency since the Superbowl win in 2010 or even three years ago?
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MarchingOn 04-27-2018 11:14 PM
Re: 2018 NFL Draft - Draft Day
 
Disappointed not in this WR in the 3rd but that we passed over DTs (Phillips) and Maurice Hurst.

Who cares about heart condition if we get 7 years or so from Maurice Hurst at his elite level of play? May not be able to afford to resign him then anyway.

He was available only because 32 teams group-thinked themselves outta an obvious great deal...like OT/OG L'ael Collins in the 7th recently.

For the chickens, just go for Phillips. We desperately need a NT or penetrating DT and we could've had one in the 3rd.

The value was in the 2nd round...should've traded down not up for our choice of TEs (except Hurst) then the DT in the 3rd. A trade down into the 2nd would net another 3rd to use on this WR (or Gallup).


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