Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing'

The Dude · 04-30-2018, 10:32 PM

A project we gave up a first round pick for doesn’t have me completely decided. For that trade you need someone who can come in and make an immediate impact. Don’t gamble with a 15th overall pick and especially one you traded to get to that slot.
Hope I’m wrong.

AsylumGuido · 05-01-2018, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

A project we gave up a first round pick for doesn’t have me completely decided. For that trade you need someone who can come in and make an immediate impact. Don’t gamble with a 15th overall pick and especially one you traded to get to that slot.
Hope I’m wrong.

What makes you think Davenport can't come in and make an immediate impact? Where did you get the idea he was some sort of project? Some clueless media hack? Sure he has a lot more to learn and that just means he'll continue to get better and better, but he has the athleticism to make an impact on day one ... especially given the opportunity to work with Coach Neilsen.

Oh, and no need to hope ... you are wrong.

K Major · 05-01-2018, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

For that trade you need someone who can come in and make an immediate impact. Don’t gamble with a 15th overall pick and especially one you traded to get to that slot.
Hope I’m wrong.

Here is a straight forward, unbiased analysis on moving up to get Davenport.

The Saints didn't give up too much for Davenport - YouTube

AsylumGuido · 05-02-2018, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Here is a straight forward, unbiased analysis on moving up to get Davenport.

The Saints didn't give up too much for Davenport - YouTube

This has been my take all along and it makes perfect sense. Also factor in that we are returning 22 starters from last season's team that was one fluke play away from playing to go to another Super Bowl. If Davenport pans out as expected we would likely only be looking to fill out some backup slot with a late first rounder next year. Why not use it to pick up a stud starter this year instead?

Barry from MS · 05-02-2018, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Here is a straight forward, unbiased analysis on moving up to get Davenport.

The Saints didn't give up too much for Davenport - YouTube

Agree. If we win the Super Bowl, MD wins or in the running for DROY, and eventually he turns into a Pro Bowler, it won't matter at all about our traded 2019 1st round pick. He's gonna be a good player, especially across from Cam with Rankins in the middle. Physically he's a monster. Elite monster. He has a great motor, too. But for the pros there's also the cons.

Maybe it was the D system ran at UTSA, but he looked lost at times & lesser size blockers (TEs & OTs) were able to win 1-on-1 match-ups. Once he found the ball he was hell-on-wheels, though. But that just made him that much further behind the play. That extra step or 2 is the difference between 1-2 yd gains & 7-8 yd gains.

Those things can be coached up thankfully, and I'm sure our tape sessions are a bit better than UTSA's. I'm still prepared to see some deer-in-headlights moments from MD this year. It'll help with Okafor, Hendrickson (who is gonna shock some folks this year), and Muhammad giving him competition opposite Cam. I'm conservative by nature, so I'd have never made the pick...but I haven't been hired lately as a GM either.

K Major · 05-02-2018, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Those things can be coached up thankfully, and I'm sure our tape sessions are a bit better than UTSA's. I'm still prepared to see some deer-in-headlights moments from MD this year. It'll help with Okafor, Hendrickson (who is gonna shock some folks this year), and Muhammad giving him competition opposite Cam. I'm conservative by nature, so I'd have never made the pick...but I haven't been hired lately as a GM either.

Knowing that we have Coach Nielsen now, I feel confident he'll polish Marcus up quickly.

Side note - did you see that post by 76 on Nielsen & his former college
(NC State) D lineman getting drafted in 2018?

Chubb (DE) - 1st rd
BJ Hill (DE)- 3rd rd
Jones (DT) - 3rd rd
Street (DE) - 4th rd

Ryan Nielsen is a hell of a D line coach & a big reason why they were drafted. We are lucky to have him in New Orleans.

ChrisXVI · 05-02-2018, 09:00 AM

I hadn’t really thought about it until now, but Davenport has some VERY favorable matchups to start the season:

Buccaneers- LT Donovan Smith= Hot garbage

Browns- LT Shon Coleman= Is that who’s playing LT for them now? I don’t even know but it’s favorable for Davenport.

K Major · 05-02-2018, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I hadn’t really thought about it until now, but Davenport has some VERY favorable matchups to start the season:

Buccaneers- LT Donovan Smith= Hot garbage

Game 1 starter?

Euphoria · 05-02-2018, 10:04 AM

I am calling it now...

1st defensive passing play of the regular season

Davenport gets a sack.

AsylumGuido · 05-02-2018, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I am calling it now...

1st defensive passing play of the regular season

Davenport gets a sack.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,674	Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing' Originally Posted by The Dude A project we gave up a first round pick for doesn’t have me completely decided. For that trade you need someone who can come in and make an immediate impact. Don’t gamble with a 15th overall pick and especially one you traded to get to that slot. Hope I’m wrong. What makes you think Davenport can't come in and make an immediate impact? Where did you get the idea he was some sort of project? Some clueless media hack? Sure he has a lot more to learn and that just means he'll continue to get better and better, but he has the athleticism to make an impact on day one ... especially given the opportunity to work with Coach Neilsen. Oh, and no need to hope ... you are wrong. mleg1972 likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,674	Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing' Originally Posted by K Major Here is a straight forward, unbiased analysis on moving up to get Davenport. The Saints didn't give up too much for Davenport - YouTube This has been my take all along and it makes perfect sense. Also factor in that we are returning 22 starters from last season's team that was one fluke play away from playing to go to another Super Bowl. If Davenport pans out as expected we would likely only be looking to fill out some backup slot with a late first rounder next year. Why not use it to pick up a stud starter this year instead? Danno and darksoul35 like this.

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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing' Originally Posted by K Major Here is a straight forward, unbiased analysis on moving up to get Davenport. The Saints didn't give up too much for Davenport - YouTube Agree. If we win the Super Bowl, MD wins or in the running for DROY, and eventually he turns into a Pro Bowler, it won't matter at all about our traded 2019 1st round pick. He's gonna be a good player, especially across from Cam with Rankins in the middle. Physically he's a monster. Elite monster. He has a great motor, too. But for the pros there's also the cons. Maybe it was the D system ran at UTSA, but he looked lost at times & lesser size blockers (TEs & OTs) were able to win 1-on-1 match-ups. Once he found the ball he was hell-on-wheels, though. But that just made him that much further behind the play. That extra step or 2 is the difference between 1-2 yd gains & 7-8 yd gains. Those things can be coached up thankfully, and I'm sure our tape sessions are a bit better than UTSA's. I'm still prepared to see some deer-in-headlights moments from MD this year. It'll help with Okafor, Hendrickson (who is gonna shock some folks this year), and Muhammad giving him competition opposite Cam. I'm conservative by nature, so I'd have never made the pick...but I haven't been hired lately as a GM either. Crusader, mleg1972, AsylumGuido and 4 others like this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing' Originally Posted by Barry from MS Those things can be coached up thankfully, and I'm sure our tape sessions are a bit better than UTSA's. I'm still prepared to see some deer-in-headlights moments from MD this year. It'll help with Okafor, Hendrickson (who is gonna shock some folks this year), and Muhammad giving him competition opposite Cam. I'm conservative by nature, so I'd have never made the pick...but I haven't been hired lately as a GM either. Knowing that we have Coach Nielsen now, I feel confident he'll polish Marcus up quickly. Side note - did you see that post by 76 on Nielsen & his former college (NC State) D lineman getting drafted in 2018? Chubb (DE) - 1st rd BJ Hill (DE)- 3rd rd Jones (DT) - 3rd rd Street (DE) - 4th rd Ryan Nielsen is a hell of a D line coach & a big reason why they were drafted. We are lucky to have him in New Orleans. Crusader, mleg1972, Barry from MS and 1 others like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing' I hadn’t really thought about it until now, but Davenport has some VERY favorable matchups to start the season: Buccaneers- LT Donovan Smith= Hot garbage Browns- LT Shon Coleman= Is that who’s playing LT for them now? I don’t even know but it’s favorable for Davenport. mleg1972 and darksoul35 like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing' Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I hadn’t really thought about it until now, but Davenport has some VERY favorable matchups to start the season: Buccaneers- LT Donovan Smith= Hot garbage Game 1 starter? SmashMouth and ChrisXVI like this.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing' I am calling it now... 1st defensive passing play of the regular season Davenport gets a sack. mleg1972 and AsylumGuido like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,674	Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing' Originally Posted by Euphoria I am calling it now... 1st defensive passing play of the regular season Davenport gets a sack. It wouldn't surprise me one bit.