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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major Here is a straight forward, unbiased analysis on moving up to get Davenport. The Saints didn't give up too much for Davenport - YouTube Agree. If we win the Super Bowl, MD wins or in ...
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05-02-2018, 10:44 AM | #21 |
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Originally Posted by K Major
Agree. If we win the Super Bowl, MD wins or in the running for DROY, and eventually he turns into a Pro Bowler, it won't matter at all about our traded 2019 1st round pick. He's gonna be a good player, especially across from Cam with Rankins in the middle. Physically he's a monster. Elite monster. He has a great motor, too. But for the pros there's also the cons.
Maybe it was the D system ran at UTSA, but he looked lost at times & lesser size blockers (TEs & OTs) were able to win 1-on-1 match-ups. Once he found the ball he was hell-on-wheels, though. But that just made him that much further behind the play. That extra step or 2 is the difference between 1-2 yd gains & 7-8 yd gains. Those things can be coached up thankfully, and I'm sure our tape sessions are a bit better than UTSA's. I'm still prepared to see some deer-in-headlights moments from MD this year. It'll help with Okafor, Hendrickson (who is gonna shock some folks this year), and Muhammad giving him competition opposite Cam. I'm conservative by nature, so I'd have never made the pick...but I haven't been hired lately as a GM either. |
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05-02-2018, 10:58 AM | #22 |
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Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing'
Originally Posted by Barry from MS
Knowing that we have Coach Nielsen now, I feel confident he'll polish Marcus up quickly.
Side note - did you see that post by 76 on Nielsen & his former college (NC State) D lineman getting drafted in 2018? Chubb (DE) - 1st rd BJ Hill (DE)- 3rd rd Jones (DT) - 3rd rd Street (DE) - 4th rd Ryan Nielsen is a hell of a D line coach & a big reason why they were drafted. We are lucky to have him in New Orleans. |
05-02-2018, 11:06 AM | #23 |
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Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing'
Good points Barry! My takeaway from watching some game tape is that he plays too high and gets stood up pretty easily. I’m hoping that playing with his hand in the dirt instead of standing up will help with that. Also, it seems like he only uses a bull-rush and doesn’t really have any other moves.
It’ll be fun to see what a summer of working with Cam Jordan, Ryan Nielsen and Brian Young (Pass Rush Specialist Coach) does for Davenport! |
05-03-2018, 12:06 AM | #24 |
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Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing'
After a while I had a chance to let my steam out I am having a little hope from this nightmare of a draft. Although I am skeptical on the value for drafting Davenport I do see the potential of him becoming a elite player.
After what I believe to be a BIG gamble with the 1st rd pick, the air was almost out when drafting Trequan. I seen other DE prospect that could've been pick but by picking Davenport I knew we had to look at offense but I was hoping for Parry Nickerson realistically thinking they would go for Ronnie Harrison. I am still skeptical on V Bell play cause he sometimes look lost in coverages and with his communication with the other db's. However, seeing highlights on Trequan I can see why he was picked Before Natrell Jamerson was picked all the air was out and I ruled this draft a failure. I truly believe this prospect could turnout to be a steal. Three top corners and with Chris Banjo, Justin Hardee & Arthur Maulet the competition to make ST will be a challenge. V Bell might safe from this pick since the saints value him as a corner Boston Scott could be a depth prospect to packages for Kamara. Nice insurance to have The other prospects I'll just wait to see what Ireland, Loomis, and Payton believe are worthy to be a saint |
05-03-2018, 11:21 AM | #25 |
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Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing'
Before it is all said and done Davenport will be a stud and the cost will be forgotten.
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05-03-2018, 07:01 PM | #26 |
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Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing'
When you're limited to needs in only a few areas, the cost'll usually be a bit higher. It's rare the ones you really want will fall into your lap like Lattimore did. There are always ways of picking up a draft spot when you need it.
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05-03-2018, 09:52 PM | #27 |
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Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing'
Mattt is already wearing brown pants so the stain won’t show through.
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05-04-2018, 08:36 AM | #28 |
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Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing'
Honestly the 2019 pick should be a very late 1st round pick. I would think it would be almost impossible to draft a player of MD's talent that late in the draft.
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05-05-2018, 02:46 PM | #29 |
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Re: Saints' Marcus Davenport 'doesn't specialize in just one thing'
Saint's have had two late rd picks in Ramzcek and Anthony would you deal a #27 and either of these players for another Cam Jordan I would
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