Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games(Update: Appeal denied)

jeanpierre · 05-09-2018, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Its disappointing that so many people assumed Mark was snortin coke, smokin crack, and shootin roids all at the same time.

Well, unfortunately that is our culture of #fakenews - it was initially reported as a positive test for a banned PED and toothpaste doesn't go back in the tube so easily...

What's amazing to me is that several news sources reported Ingram seeking a new contract in a low-key blurb a few weeks after the playoffs...

Those same media outlets now say he's asking for a raise like he did it after the positive test - I'd like to see the actual chronology accurately reported...

Then I'd like to see these kids who erroneously reported or shaded the facts receive a public @sswhopin' on a three-manned gallows (one white, one black, one asian)...

More public @sswhopin's would put an end to a lot of this schite - they use to tar and feather cowards that did this back in the day - again our forefathers were wiser...

Disclaimer: Again, I've never been a big Mark Ingram fan; I don't want to see his contract redone that I expect him to honor in full faith and participation...

When his current contract was negotiated - I was in favor of keeping him as he finally was performing well and he was our best free agent option in that market...

And I wouldn't have a problem if we let him walk at the expiration of his contract if we have a back who can split the load as he and Kamara have...

darksoul35 · 05-09-2018, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Its disappointing that so many people assumed Mark was snortin coke, smokin crack, and shootin roids all at the same time.

Its still no excuse but I think that hopes are so high people are scared something could happen to mess the season up and this happens. I hope he wins.

st thomas · 05-09-2018, 11:17 AM

If mark had an exemption for the product why did the NFL hand cuff him if they know he would be set free ? Chew on that. Let your people get with my people and then we’ll schedule a lunch meeting in Tahoe . Mark I’m on your side till .

AsylumGuido · 05-09-2018, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

If mark had an exemption for the product why did the NFL hand cuff him if they know he would be set free ? Chew on that. Let your people get with my people and then we’ll schedule a lunch meeting in Tahoe . Mark I’m on your side till .

To be precise, the release doesn't say there was an exemption in hand. It said it was "a substance ... permissible with the proper use exemption". That was explaining that it wasn't any of the bad stuff. If they were fighting the case it may have something to do with a legality. Perhaps it was deemed necessary, but his agent screwed up on the submission of the paperwork. That could explain the abrupt firing of the agent. Unfortunately the fine-print says a retroactive submission can only be accepted if the was danger of mortality and such.

Garry42 · 05-09-2018, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

To be precise, the release doesn't say there was an exemption in hand. It said it was "a substance ... permissible with the proper use exemption". That was explaining that it wasn't any of the bad stuff. If they were fighting the case it may have something to do with a legality. Perhaps it was deemed necessary, but his agent screwed up on the submission of the paperwork. That could explain the abrupt firing of the agent. Unfortunately the fine-print says a retroactive submission can only be accepted if the was danger of mortality and such.

Good point! I read the statement closer after my earlier post and think you are correct. I originally read it to say he had an exemption. Guess that's why I'm not a lawyer.....

turbo_dog · 05-09-2018, 11:31 AM

I hate this! At first I was thinking about the balance of tough running Ingram and silky smooth Kamara, and how this will change it for the first four games. Then I remembered we had Peterson at the beginning of the season last year, and it wasn't until later that we got the first glimpses of our dynamic duo. Maybe this won't be as bad as I was thinking.

Beastmode · 05-09-2018, 11:39 AM

I was thinking the same. We could have a more capable RB. Would not be the first time we found this out; PT, Kamara....it happens.

papz · 05-09-2018, 12:19 PM

Updating a previous item, suspended RB Mark Ingram's appeal has already been heard and denied by the NFL.

There was apparently some confusion on this Wednesday morning when Ingram's agent released a statement, saying they planned to appeal the four-game PEDs ban. That's already been done, which is why the league announced the suspension on Tuesday. Ingram will be sidelined Weeks 1-4 (vs. TB, vs. CLE, at ATL, at NYG), leaving Alvin Kamara locked into RB1 duties.

Source: Josh Katzenstein on Twitter

jeanpierre · 05-09-2018, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Updating a previous item, suspended RB Mark Ingram's appeal has already been heard and denied by the NFL.

There was apparently some confusion on this Wednesday morning when Ingram's agent released a statement, saying they planned to appeal the four-game PEDs ban. That's already been done, which is why the league announced the suspension on Tuesday. Ingram will be sidelined Weeks 1-4 (vs. TB, vs. CLE, at ATL, at NYG), leaving Alvin Kamara locked into RB1 duties.

Source: Josh Katzenstein on Twitter

Confirmed, second source...

AsylumGuido · 05-09-2018, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Updating a previous item, suspended RB Mark Ingram's appeal has already been heard and denied by the NFL.

There was apparently some confusion on this Wednesday morning when Ingram's agent released a statement, saying they planned to appeal the four-game PEDs ban. That's already been done, which is why the league announced the suspension on Tuesday. Ingram will be sidelined Weeks 1-4 (vs. TB, vs. CLE, at ATL, at NYG), leaving Alvin Kamara locked into RB1 duties.

Source: Josh Katzenstein on Twitter

This, of course, doesn't mean it is completely over. The original ruling and appeal of the ruling have been heard and they are waiting for the written statement of the decision. While Ingram's team cannot further appeal the ruling itself, they can appeal the suspension trying to get it thrown out (not likely) or reduced.

This is the "further option" mentioned in the press release from his new agent:

The arbitrator's opinion is due on or before Wednesday, May 16. Upon having the opportunity to review the arbitrator's opinion, we will explore what further options are needed.

05-09-2018, 11:25 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by Danno Its disappointing that so many people assumed Mark was snortin coke, smokin crack, and shootin roids all at the same time. Well, unfortunately that is our culture of #fakenews - it was initially reported as a positive test for a banned PED and toothpaste doesn't go back in the tube so easily... What's amazing to me is that several news sources reported Ingram seeking a new contract in a low-key blurb a few weeks after the playoffs... Those same media outlets now say he's asking for a raise like he did it after the positive test - I'd like to see the actual chronology accurately reported... Then I'd like to see these kids who erroneously reported or shaded the facts receive a public @sswhopin' on a three-manned gallows (one white, one black, one asian)... More public @sswhopin's would put an end to a lot of this schite - they use to tar and feather cowards that did this back in the day - again our forefathers were wiser... Disclaimer: Again, I've never been a big Mark Ingram fan; I don't want to see his contract redone that I expect him to honor in full faith and participation... When his current contract was negotiated - I was in favor of keeping him as he finally was performing well and he was our best free agent option in that market... And I wouldn't have a problem if we let him walk at the expiration of his contract if we have a back who can split the load as he and Kamara have...
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05-09-2018, 03:43 PM	#2
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,044	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by Danno Its disappointing that so many people assumed Mark was snortin coke, smokin crack, and shootin roids all at the same time. Its still no excuse but I think that hopes are so high people are scared something could happen to mess the season up and this happens. I hope he wins.
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05-09-2018, 11:17 AM	#3
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games If mark had an exemption for the product why did the NFL hand cuff him if they know he would be set free ? Chew on that. Let your people get with my people and then we’ll schedule a lunch meeting in Tahoe . Mark I’m on your side till .

05-09-2018, 11:41 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by st thomas If mark had an exemption for the product why did the NFL hand cuff him if they know he would be set free ? Chew on that. Let your people get with my people and then we’ll schedule a lunch meeting in Tahoe . Mark I’m on your side till . To be precise, the release doesn't say there was an exemption in hand. It said it was "a substance ... permissible with the proper use exemption". That was explaining that it wasn't any of the bad stuff. If they were fighting the case it may have something to do with a legality. Perhaps it was deemed necessary, but his agent screwed up on the submission of the paperwork. That could explain the abrupt firing of the agent. Unfortunately the fine-print says a retroactive submission can only be accepted if the was danger of mortality and such. Thirty3 likes this.

05-09-2018, 12:15 PM	#5
Garry42 Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 785	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by AsylumGuido To be precise, the release doesn't say there was an exemption in hand. It said it was "a substance ... permissible with the proper use exemption". That was explaining that it wasn't any of the bad stuff. If they were fighting the case it may have something to do with a legality. Perhaps it was deemed necessary, but his agent screwed up on the submission of the paperwork. That could explain the abrupt firing of the agent. Unfortunately the fine-print says a retroactive submission can only be accepted if the was danger of mortality and such. Good point! I read the statement closer after my earlier post and think you are correct. I originally read it to say he had an exemption. Guess that's why I'm not a lawyer.....

05-09-2018, 11:31 AM	#6
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,701	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games I hate this! At first I was thinking about the balance of tough running Ingram and silky smooth Kamara, and how this will change it for the first four games. Then I remembered we had Peterson at the beginning of the season last year, and it wasn't until later that we got the first glimpses of our dynamic duo. Maybe this won't be as bad as I was thinking. Beastmode likes this.

05-09-2018, 11:39 AM	#7
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games I was thinking the same. We could have a more capable RB. Would not be the first time we found this out; PT, Kamara....it happens.
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05-09-2018, 12:19 PM	#8
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Updating a previous item, suspended RB Mark Ingram's appeal has already been heard and denied by the NFL. There was apparently some confusion on this Wednesday morning when Ingram's agent released a statement, saying they planned to appeal the four-game PEDs ban. That's already been done, which is why the league announced the suspension on Tuesday. Ingram will be sidelined Weeks 1-4 (vs. TB, vs. CLE, at ATL, at NYG), leaving Alvin Kamara locked into RB1 duties. Source: Josh Katzenstein on Twitter

05-09-2018, 12:37 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by papz Updating a previous item, suspended RB Mark Ingram's appeal has already been heard and denied by the NFL. There was apparently some confusion on this Wednesday morning when Ingram's agent released a statement, saying they planned to appeal the four-game PEDs ban. That's already been done, which is why the league announced the suspension on Tuesday. Ingram will be sidelined Weeks 1-4 (vs. TB, vs. CLE, at ATL, at NYG), leaving Alvin Kamara locked into RB1 duties. Source: Josh Katzenstein on Twitter Confirmed, second source... Twitter

05-09-2018, 12:58 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games Originally Posted by papz Updating a previous item, suspended RB Mark Ingram's appeal has already been heard and denied by the NFL. There was apparently some confusion on this Wednesday morning when Ingram's agent released a statement, saying they planned to appeal the four-game PEDs ban. That's already been done, which is why the league announced the suspension on Tuesday. Ingram will be sidelined Weeks 1-4 (vs. TB, vs. CLE, at ATL, at NYG), leaving Alvin Kamara locked into RB1 duties. Source: Josh Katzenstein on Twitter This, of course, doesn't mean it is completely over. The original ruling and appeal of the ruling have been heard and they are waiting for the written statement of the decision. While Ingram's team cannot further appeal the ruling itself, they can appeal the suspension trying to get it thrown out (not likely) or reduced. This is the "further option" mentioned in the press release from his new agent: The arbitrator's opinion is due on or before Wednesday, May 16. Upon having the opportunity to review the arbitrator's opinion, we will explore what further options are needed.

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