ESPN: Saints' Mark Ingram skipping OTAs until veteran minicamp, coach Sean Payton says

AsylumGuido · 05-11-2018, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by 73Saint

I would think it smart to attend if not only to stay out of Payton's dog house

I have a theory on this. Currently Ingram is isolated at his home. There is no media and he can concentrate on his training during the voluntary period. Showing up at the early voluntary workouts at the team facilities would open him and the team up to much unwanted media exposure. They don't need a little circus going on while Ingram's new agents continue to fight this suspension. Payton said he and Ingram spoke and that Ingram said he wasn't going to be there and Payton said he didn't agree. Agree with what? That doesn't sound like it is contract related at all. If it was contract related why even call the coach at all?

No, this sounds like Ingram is trying to minimize distractions. It would make sense for Payton to be disagreeing that his presence would be a distraction. That is the most logical conclusion.

Believe me, if there was one person in the entire NFL that understood what it was like to be wrongly accused of something and forced to endure a suspension it is Sean Payton.

insidejob · 05-11-2018, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I have a theory on this. Currently Ingram is isolated at his home. There is no media and he can concentrate on his training during the voluntary period. Showing up at the early voluntary workouts at the team facilities would open him and the team up to much unwanted media exposure. They don't need a little circus going on while Ingram's new agents continue to fight this suspension. Payton said he and Ingram spoke and that Ingram said he wasn't going to be there and Payton said he didn't agree. Agree with what? That doesn't sound like it is contract related at all. If it was contract related why even call the coach at all?

No, this sounds like Ingram is trying to minimize distractions. It would make sense for Payton to be disagreeing that his presence would be a distraction. That is the most logical conclusion.

Believe me, if there was one person in the entire NFL that understood what it was like to be wrongly accused of something and forced to endure a suspension it is Sean Payton.

Ingram's new agents are not continuing to fight the suspension. Hours after that statement was released the arbitrator rules the suspension was upheld. He is suspended the first four games.

I agree it's a BS suspension since it isn't even actual steroids or HGH or something like that and it could have been the fault of Ingram's doctors for not filing the necessary paperwork necessary for him to get the use exemption. That isn't something the player can file themselves. Someone dropped the ball and Ingram is paying a huge price for it. I just hope he comes back with an even bigger chip on his shoulder than usual and plays like his ass is on fire.

I really just wish he wasn't pushing for a new deal right now because that seems to be why hrs not reporting to workouts and is supposedly going to stay away from OTA's as well.

That's not the way the locker room leader and ultimate teammate that Ingram has been for a few years now acts when he is about to potentially become the Saints all time leading rusher and could work out a new deal after the season and then finish out his career as a Saint.

The whole situation just sucks.

Danno · 05-11-2018, 07:10 PM

Can’t blame him if he wants out. He would probably be treated better by fans of numerous other teams.
If only he had gone to LSU

jeanpierre · 05-11-2018, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Can’t blame him if he wants out. He would probably be treated better by fans of numerous other teams.
If only he had gone to LSU

K Major · 05-11-2018, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Can’t blame him if he wants out. He would probably be treated better by fans of numerous other teams.
If only he had gone to LSU

Just watch the treatment Davenport gets when he has a "off night". The lynch mob will become more brutal on him than Mark.

spkb25 · 05-12-2018, 10:59 AM

Doubt we could get a second for him but damn that be a steal probably 4th or T5th, but man a 3rd would be gold

spkb25 · 05-12-2018, 11:00 AM

If we did get a second I'd send that team a 400 dollar subscription to the art of the deal online courses with Mike dtika

05-11-2018, 03:10 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,044	Re: ESPN: Saints' Mark Ingram skipping OTAs until veteran minicamp, coach Sean Payton says Originally Posted by 73Saint I would think it smart to attend if not only to stay out of Payton's dog house I have a theory on this. Currently Ingram is isolated at his home. There is no media and he can concentrate on his training during the voluntary period. Showing up at the early voluntary workouts at the team facilities would open him and the team up to much unwanted media exposure. They don't need a little circus going on while Ingram's new agents continue to fight this suspension. Payton said he and Ingram spoke and that Ingram said he wasn't going to be there and Payton said he didn't agree. Agree with what? That doesn't sound like it is contract related at all. If it was contract related why even call the coach at all? No, this sounds like Ingram is trying to minimize distractions. It would make sense for Payton to be disagreeing that his presence would be a distraction. That is the most logical conclusion. Believe me, if there was one person in the entire NFL that understood what it was like to be wrongly accused of something and forced to endure a suspension it is Sean Payton. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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05-11-2018, 07:00 PM	#2
insidejob Rookie Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 10	Re: ESPN: Saints' Mark Ingram skipping OTAs until veteran minicamp, coach Sean Payton says Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I have a theory on this. Currently Ingram is isolated at his home. There is no media and he can concentrate on his training during the voluntary period. Showing up at the early voluntary workouts at the team facilities would open him and the team up to much unwanted media exposure. They don't need a little circus going on while Ingram's new agents continue to fight this suspension. Payton said he and Ingram spoke and that Ingram said he wasn't going to be there and Payton said he didn't agree. Agree with what? That doesn't sound like it is contract related at all. If it was contract related why even call the coach at all? No, this sounds like Ingram is trying to minimize distractions. It would make sense for Payton to be disagreeing that his presence would be a distraction. That is the most logical conclusion. Believe me, if there was one person in the entire NFL that understood what it was like to be wrongly accused of something and forced to endure a suspension it is Sean Payton. Ingram's new agents are not continuing to fight the suspension. Hours after that statement was released the arbitrator rules the suspension was upheld. He is suspended the first four games. I agree it's a BS suspension since it isn't even actual steroids or HGH or something like that and it could have been the fault of Ingram's doctors for not filing the necessary paperwork necessary for him to get the use exemption. That isn't something the player can file themselves. Someone dropped the ball and Ingram is paying a huge price for it. I just hope he comes back with an even bigger chip on his shoulder than usual and plays like his ass is on fire. I really just wish he wasn't pushing for a new deal right now because that seems to be why hrs not reporting to workouts and is supposedly going to stay away from OTA's as well. That's not the way the locker room leader and ultimate teammate that Ingram has been for a few years now acts when he is about to potentially become the Saints all time leading rusher and could work out a new deal after the season and then finish out his career as a Saint. The whole situation just sucks. Rugby Saint II and Utah_Saint like this.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: ESPN: Saints' Mark Ingram skipping OTAs until veteran minicamp, coach Sean Payton says Can’t blame him if he wants out. He would probably be treated better by fans of numerous other teams. If only he had gone to LSU Rugby Saint II likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: ESPN: Saints' Mark Ingram skipping OTAs until veteran minicamp, coach Sean Payton says Originally Posted by Danno Can’t blame him if he wants out. He would probably be treated better by fans of numerous other teams. If only he had gone to LSU

05-11-2018, 09:55 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,588 Blog Entries: 3	Re: ESPN: Saints' Mark Ingram skipping OTAs until veteran minicamp, coach Sean Payton says Originally Posted by Danno Can’t blame him if he wants out. He would probably be treated better by fans of numerous other teams. If only he had gone to LSU Just watch the treatment Davenport gets when he has a "off night". The lynch mob will become more brutal on him than Mark.

05-12-2018, 10:59 AM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Re: ESPN: Saints' Mark Ingram skipping OTAs until veteran minicamp, coach Sean Payton says Doubt we could get a second for him but damn that be a steal probably 4th or T5th, but man a 3rd would be gold

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Re: ESPN: Saints' Mark Ingram skipping OTAs until veteran minicamp, coach Sean Payton says If we did get a second I'd send that team a 400 dollar subscription to the art of the deal online courses with Mike dtika

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