Mark Ingram Won't Be at OTA's

AsylumGuido · 05-29-2018, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I'd say most of the reason for Ingram's rookie year was that he seemed to run with his eyes closed. Right into the back of his own lineman.

Developed into a great player, but in a year where we are loaded up for a SB run, he's definitely hampered it.

How so? The suspension? If we can't go at least 3-1 over those games without him we shouldn't be going to the Super Bowl anyway. I think we'll go 4-0 and a couple of RB's will get lots of experience and Ingram comes back fresh and strong right when we need him. It could work out for the best.

dizzle88 · 05-29-2018, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

How so? The suspension? If we can't go at least 3-1 over those games without him we shouldn't be going to the Super Bowl anyway. I think we'll go 4-0 and a couple of RB's will get lots of experience and Ingram comes back fresh and strong right when we need him. It could work out for the best.

It "could" work out for the best, but losing one of your best players for something that was in his reasonable control i.e not injury related, is certainly not a good way to start a season where we finally looked to be serious contenders.

AsylumGuido · 05-29-2018, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

It "could" work out for the best, but losing one of your best players for something that was in his reasonable control i.e not injury related, is certainly not a good way to start a season where we finally looked to be serious contenders.

I'm not sure how much it was in his control. What percentage of NFL players do think use supplements that are approved by the league? 80%? 90%? It sounds like he was a victim of the Russian roulette game of approved supplements where a batch here or there gets tainted AND he happened to get a bottle of that batch AND he happens to get randomly tested, To date four different current and former Saints players implied that is what happened to Ingram. I believe them. Although, to acknowledge your point, he could have avoided all supplements like that 10-20% of players.

darksoul35 · 05-29-2018, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I'd say most of the reason for Ingram's rookie year was that he seemed to run with his eyes closed. Right into the back of his own lineman.

Developed into a great player, but in a year where we are loaded up for a SB run, he's definitely hampered it.

The silver lining is that he should come in fresh.

spkb25 · 05-28-2018, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Go back and look at Ingram's rookie season where Payton states "I'm probably the reason he won't be OFROY"

that's something a coach says when he is trying to temper expectations and protect the player in case his success is less than what the fans expect

05-29-2018, 02:59 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,676	Re: Mark Ingram Won't Be at OTA's Originally Posted by dizzle88 I'd say most of the reason for Ingram's rookie year was that he seemed to run with his eyes closed. Right into the back of his own lineman. Developed into a great player, but in a year where we are loaded up for a SB run, he's definitely hampered it. How so? The suspension? If we can't go at least 3-1 over those games without him we shouldn't be going to the Super Bowl anyway. I think we'll go 4-0 and a couple of RB's will get lots of experience and Ingram comes back fresh and strong right when we need him. It could work out for the best. darksoul35 likes this.

05-29-2018, 03:50 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: Mark Ingram Won't Be at OTA's Originally Posted by AsylumGuido How so? The suspension? If we can't go at least 3-1 over those games without him we shouldn't be going to the Super Bowl anyway. I think we'll go 4-0 and a couple of RB's will get lots of experience and Ingram comes back fresh and strong right when we need him. It could work out for the best. It "could" work out for the best, but losing one of your best players for something that was in his reasonable control i.e not injury related, is certainly not a good way to start a season where we finally looked to be serious contenders.

05-29-2018, 04:23 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,676	Re: Mark Ingram Won't Be at OTA's Originally Posted by dizzle88 It "could" work out for the best, but losing one of your best players for something that was in his reasonable control i.e not injury related, is certainly not a good way to start a season where we finally looked to be serious contenders. I'm not sure how much it was in his control. What percentage of NFL players do think use supplements that are approved by the league? 80%? 90%? It sounds like he was a victim of the Russian roulette game of approved supplements where a batch here or there gets tainted AND he happened to get a bottle of that batch AND he happens to get randomly tested, To date four different current and former Saints players implied that is what happened to Ingram. I believe them. Although, to acknowledge your point, he could have avoided all supplements like that 10-20% of players.
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05-29-2018, 03:49 PM	#4
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,044	Re: Mark Ingram Won't Be at OTA's Originally Posted by dizzle88 I'd say most of the reason for Ingram's rookie year was that he seemed to run with his eyes closed. Right into the back of his own lineman. Developed into a great player, but in a year where we are loaded up for a SB run, he's definitely hampered it. The silver lining is that he should come in fresh.
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05-28-2018, 04:37 PM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Mark Ingram Won't Be at OTA's Originally Posted by vpheughan Go back and look at Ingram's rookie season where Payton states "I'm probably the reason he won't be OFROY" that's something a coach says when he is trying to temper expectations and protect the player in case his success is less than what the fans expect

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