i know it is way early but

mutineer10 · 05-02-2005, 10:04 AM

Since it\'s so early ... I\'ll reach a little. I know we\'ll see this question again:

East: Philadelphia Eagles - they\'ll slip a little, but still the best in their division.
West: Seattle Seahawks - weakest division in football, they can still afford chronic inconsistency
North: Chicago Bears - Lovie Smith is quietly putting it together in the Windy City
South: Atlanta Falcons - unfortunately, the most complete team in a tough division

Wilcard 1: Minnesota Vikings - free agent moves may finally get them over the hump
Wildcard 2: New Orleans Saints - we\'ll scratch our way in this year, and win the division if the Falcons falter

Teams to watch:
St. Louis Rams - too many holes on defense, and a horrible O-line, but weak division hands them \"gimme\" wins
Arizona Cardinals - the rebirth of Kurt Warner? Don\'t laugh yet, the Cards have some excellent young talent, and Warner could be just the ticket to turn these guys around
Carolina Panthers - always a tough team, counting these guys out is a big mistake

FrenzyFan · 05-02-2005, 10:24 AM

Way too hard to call right now. But, if I absolutely had to bet, I would say

Philly (East)
GB (North - sorry Minn is the NFC North version of the Saints - way too inconsistent. They lost 4 of their last 5 last year, and their biggest threat on O - their D won\'t turn around that fast. Plus, GB just finds ways to win)
W - St. Louis
S - Carolina

Wild Cards
Birds (hawks) and Birds (Falcons)

7th: Saints
8th: Detroit
9th: Dallas
10th: Minn
11th: AZ

I would say this is about what I think will happen this year. We\'ll go 8-8 and just miss the WC with a tiebreaker failure due to a loss (at home) to Atlanta.

saintswhodi · 05-02-2005, 10:39 AM

Nice guesses, but if anyone has us in over the Panthers at this point they are deluding themselves. Only reason they were so bad last year was injuries to players who are back this year. Key loss, Muhammed, but they get Steve Smith back and Colbert in his second year. And we still only split with them. they have improved a weakness(O-line, with a young stud in Wahle) and improved another(secondary, with Ken Lucas) and with Gamble in his second year. Also drafted Thomas Davis, who is a playmaker. Until we beat them at full strength, they would have to get the nod over us. I hope we can come at the gate with a win over them in week one and set the tone for the season, but I have my reservations. Seems they would be more upset that we knocked their playoff chances last year against their injury ravaged team. Stephen Davis will be fresh, Deshaun Foster will be fresh, and their rookie stud RB from Louisville(forgot his name) will def be fresh. I will say if we can win that opening game, we may be in for a good season barring injury.

LordOfEntropy · 05-02-2005, 11:32 AM

North - Minnesota
South - Carolina
East - Philadelphia
West - Seattle

WC1 - Dallas
WC2 - St. Louis

NFC Championship Game - Minnesota and Philadelphia. Minny wins it.

(Saints go 8-8 and miss the playoffs).

chRxis · 05-02-2005, 03:03 PM

1. Minnesota.... what an offseason
2. Philadelphia.... Terrell and McNabb will somehow get along
3. Seattle.... again, what an offseason
4. Atlanta.... they did it last year, but this year won\'t be as easy
5. New Orleans.... if things pan out on defense, this will happen
6. New York Giants.... this probably surprises a lot of you, but with most of their defense looking for money next season, they\'ll play their asses of looking to get paid

chRxis · 05-02-2005, 03:08 PM

Dallas? Not with Bledsoe at the helm, even with their defense
St. Louis? Yeah, not this year with not enough help on defense
Green Bay? You must have been joking around.... their defense is holier than Pope Benedict
Arizona? Again, were you drunk when you thought about this? Kurt Warner is done, period.
Detroit? All those receivers and one piss poor quarterback... its a shame.... and don\'t even start with Garcia, that flaming fag
Carolina? The All-Steroid Team needs some offensive line help, but they don\'t have the fire power they did last year... remember Muhsin Muhammed? he bailed them out plenty last year and this year he ain\'t there...

chRxis · 05-02-2005, 03:10 PM

oh and Chicago? Lovie may be putting it together, but as long as Urlacher plays like a ***** they won\'t get it done and they still haven\'t gotten a decent QB either

saintswhodi · 05-02-2005, 03:14 PM

Dallas? Not with Bledsoe at the helm, even with their defense

They upgraded their line with pro bowler MArco Rivera and have a strong running gam with Jones. Prob will resemble Buffalo after McGahee started, where Bledsoe was much better.

St. Louis? Yeah, not this year with not enough help on defense

Completely revamped their LB corps. Should be better on D.

Arizona? Again, were you drunk when you thought about this? Kurt Warner is done, period

Arizon\'a defense is actually pretty stout and if they get a running game together with Arrington or Shipp, they could contend for their division.

Detroit? All those receivers and one piss poor quarterback... its a shame.... and don\'t even start with Garcia, that flaming fag

Wow. Nice tolerance. Jeff Garcia\'s girlfriend is one of the hottest women on this planet. And even Harrington may look good with all these receivers. Plus a full year from Kevin Jones.

Carolina? The All-Steroid Team needs some offensive line help, but they don\'t have the fire power they did last year... remember Muhsin Muhammed? he bailed them out plenty last year and this year he ain\'t there...

Only one of the players accused of steroid use is still on the team. And before last year, Steve Smith was the go to guy, and he is back this year. Plus they will actually have a running game. And they got a definite stud on the line with Wahle from Green Bay.

chRxis · 05-02-2005, 03:39 PM

Prob will resemble Buffalo after McGahee started, where Bledsoe was much better.

was much better, like a decade ago....
st. louis.... revamped LB\'s or not they couldn\'t cover their own shadow....
arizona....again, kurt warner... and relying on arrington to carry the load? please, i think i shat myself....
detroit.... garcia\'s girlfriend is a cover.... she is hot, but she\'s probably ****ing the poolboy....

Only one of the players accused of steroid use is still on the team.

accused.... opportune word there.... there were probably more than those that were named...one stud offensive lineman will not help that sorry ass line.... muhsin was the guy that they leaned on to win games, not smith.... if i can remember correctly smith didn\'t play last year, right? even so, they will miss muhsin a great deal....
i respect your opinion though

saintswhodi · 05-02-2005, 03:41 PM

muhsin was the guy that they leaned on to win games, not smith.... if i can remember correctly smith didn\'t play last year, right? even so, they will miss muhsin a great deal....

Hhhhmmm...

And before last year, Steve Smith was the go to guy, and he is back this year.

It\'s all good.

05-02-2005, 10:04 AM	#11
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	i know it is way early but Since it\'s so early ... I\'ll reach a little. I know we\'ll see this question again: East: Philadelphia Eagles - they\'ll slip a little, but still the best in their division. West: Seattle Seahawks - weakest division in football, they can still afford chronic inconsistency North: Chicago Bears - Lovie Smith is quietly putting it together in the Windy City South: Atlanta Falcons - unfortunately, the most complete team in a tough division Wilcard 1: Minnesota Vikings - free agent moves may finally get them over the hump Wildcard 2: New Orleans Saints - we\'ll scratch our way in this year, and win the division if the Falcons falter Teams to watch: St. Louis Rams - too many holes on defense, and a horrible O-line, but weak division hands them \"gimme\" wins Arizona Cardinals - the rebirth of Kurt Warner? Don\'t laugh yet, the Cards have some excellent young talent, and Warner could be just the ticket to turn these guys around Carolina Panthers - always a tough team, counting these guys out is a big mistake

05-02-2005, 10:24 AM	#12
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	i know it is way early but Way too hard to call right now. But, if I absolutely had to bet, I would say Philly (East) GB (North - sorry Minn is the NFC North version of the Saints - way too inconsistent. They lost 4 of their last 5 last year, and their biggest threat on O - their D won\'t turn around that fast. Plus, GB just finds ways to win) W - St. Louis S - Carolina Wild Cards Birds (hawks) and Birds (Falcons) 7th: Saints 8th: Detroit 9th: Dallas 10th: Minn 11th: AZ I would say this is about what I think will happen this year. We\'ll go 8-8 and just miss the WC with a tiebreaker failure due to a loss (at home) to Atlanta.
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05-02-2005, 10:39 AM	#13
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	i know it is way early but Nice guesses, but if anyone has us in over the Panthers at this point they are deluding themselves. Only reason they were so bad last year was injuries to players who are back this year. Key loss, Muhammed, but they get Steve Smith back and Colbert in his second year. And we still only split with them. they have improved a weakness(O-line, with a young stud in Wahle) and improved another(secondary, with Ken Lucas) and with Gamble in his second year. Also drafted Thomas Davis, who is a playmaker. Until we beat them at full strength, they would have to get the nod over us. I hope we can come at the gate with a win over them in week one and set the tone for the season, but I have my reservations. Seems they would be more upset that we knocked their playoff chances last year against their injury ravaged team. Stephen Davis will be fresh, Deshaun Foster will be fresh, and their rookie stud RB from Louisville(forgot his name) will def be fresh. I will say if we can win that opening game, we may be in for a good season barring injury.

05-02-2005, 11:32 AM	#14
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	i know it is way early but North - Minnesota South - Carolina East - Philadelphia West - Seattle WC1 - Dallas WC2 - St. Louis NFC Championship Game - Minnesota and Philadelphia. Minny wins it. (Saints go 8-8 and miss the playoffs).

05-02-2005, 03:03 PM	#15
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	i know it is way early but 1. Minnesota.... what an offseason 2. Philadelphia.... Terrell and McNabb will somehow get along 3. Seattle.... again, what an offseason 4. Atlanta.... they did it last year, but this year won\'t be as easy 5. New Orleans.... if things pan out on defense, this will happen 6. New York Giants.... this probably surprises a lot of you, but with most of their defense looking for money next season, they\'ll play their asses of looking to get paid

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05-02-2005, 03:08 PM	#16
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	i know it is way early but Dallas? Not with Bledsoe at the helm, even with their defense St. Louis? Yeah, not this year with not enough help on defense Green Bay? You must have been joking around.... their defense is holier than Pope Benedict Arizona? Again, were you drunk when you thought about this? Kurt Warner is done, period. Detroit? All those receivers and one piss poor quarterback... its a shame.... and don\'t even start with Garcia, that flaming fag Carolina? The All-Steroid Team needs some offensive line help, but they don\'t have the fire power they did last year... remember Muhsin Muhammed? he bailed them out plenty last year and this year he ain\'t there...

05-02-2005, 03:10 PM	#17
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	i know it is way early but oh and Chicago? Lovie may be putting it together, but as long as Urlacher plays like a ***** they won\'t get it done and they still haven\'t gotten a decent QB either

05-02-2005, 03:14 PM	#18
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	i know it is way early but Dallas? Not with Bledsoe at the helm, even with their defense They upgraded their line with pro bowler MArco Rivera and have a strong running gam with Jones. Prob will resemble Buffalo after McGahee started, where Bledsoe was much better. St. Louis? Yeah, not this year with not enough help on defense Completely revamped their LB corps. Should be better on D. Arizona? Again, were you drunk when you thought about this? Kurt Warner is done, period Arizon\'a defense is actually pretty stout and if they get a running game together with Arrington or Shipp, they could contend for their division. Detroit? All those receivers and one piss poor quarterback... its a shame.... and don\'t even start with Garcia, that flaming fag Wow. Nice tolerance. Jeff Garcia\'s girlfriend is one of the hottest women on this planet. And even Harrington may look good with all these receivers. Plus a full year from Kevin Jones. Carolina? The All-Steroid Team needs some offensive line help, but they don\'t have the fire power they did last year... remember Muhsin Muhammed? he bailed them out plenty last year and this year he ain\'t there... Only one of the players accused of steroid use is still on the team. And before last year, Steve Smith was the go to guy, and he is back this year. Plus they will actually have a running game. And they got a definite stud on the line with Wahle from Green Bay.

05-02-2005, 03:39 PM	#19
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	i know it is way early but Prob will resemble Buffalo after McGahee started, where Bledsoe was much better. was much better, like a decade ago.... st. louis.... revamped LB\'s or not they couldn\'t cover their own shadow.... arizona....again, kurt warner... and relying on arrington to carry the load? please, i think i shat myself.... detroit.... garcia\'s girlfriend is a cover.... she is hot, but she\'s probably ****ing the poolboy.... Only one of the players accused of steroid use is still on the team. accused.... opportune word there.... there were probably more than those that were named...one stud offensive lineman will not help that sorry ass line.... muhsin was the guy that they leaned on to win games, not smith.... if i can remember correctly smith didn\'t play last year, right? even so, they will miss muhsin a great deal.... i respect your opinion though

05-02-2005, 03:41 PM	#20
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	i know it is way early but muhsin was the guy that they leaned on to win games, not smith.... if i can remember correctly smith didn\'t play last year, right? even so, they will miss muhsin a great deal.... Hhhhmmm... And before last year, Steve Smith was the go to guy, and he is back this year. It\'s all good.