Post Game Saints vs Jaguars Observations

ChrisXVI · 08-10-2018, 05:19 PM

There was one guy, I can’t remember which one, who had a training camp update one day and mentioned that Lattimore has been giving up quite a few catches. I remember reading that but it was just the one guy’s editorializing.

jnormand · 08-10-2018, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

There was one guy, I can’t remember which one, who had a training camp update one day and mentioned that Lattimore has been giving up quite a few catches. I remember reading that but it was just the one guy’s editorializing.

Yeah I read it too. The writer or whatever said something like that then finished it with, "but I'm not worried" or something.

The Dude · 08-10-2018, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

There was one guy, I can’t remember which one, who had a training camp update one day and mentioned that Lattimore has been giving up quite a few catches. I remember reading that but it was just the one guy’s editorializing.

Y’all May have heard just one guy but I heard Bobby, Deuce, and Garic all say the same at some point during camp.

I have also read in daily camp recap articles about him being beat to come up with this conclusion myself.

Two other posters have backed me up saying they read it or heard it somewhere themselves on at least one occasion.Do you think I would just lie about it being said multiple times?

AsylumGuido · 08-11-2018, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Y’all May have heard just one guy but I heard Bobby, Deuce, and Garic all say the same at some point during camp.

I have also read in daily camp recap articles about him being beat to come up with this conclusion myself.

Two other posters have backed me up saying they read it or heard it somewhere themselves on at least one occasion.Do you think I would just lie about it being said multiple times?

They have all said that Lattimore was beat by Michael Thomas on a play or two here and there. And he was. But, Thomas faces him most every one on one and is one of the very best in the game. He will win his share. But what you choose to ignore are the other 95% of the plays where Lattimore dominates in practice.

You have always had a tendency to gravitate to the lowest common denominator as far as opinion of our Saints. You hear one negative and it dominates your narrative from there on out.

rezburna · 08-10-2018, 05:25 PM

I always say, if it’s one position I know it’s corner. Lattimore is the least of my concerns. Crawley is the one who needs to get his head around on deep throws and catch the ball when it hits his hands.

ChrisXVI · 08-10-2018, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I always say, if it’s one position I know it’s corner. Lattimore is the least of my concerns. Crawley is the one who needs to get his head around on deep throws and catch the ball when it hits his hands.

I was very impressed with the way Maulet got his head around and tracked the ball on that one go route he defended last night.

rezburna · 08-10-2018, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I was very impressed with the way Maulet got his head around and tracked the ball on that one go route he defended last night.

Maulet has potential to make Crawley a very, valuable back up corner.

jeanpierre · 08-10-2018, 05:52 PM

Some thoughts about last night's game:

Though the RB, WR, OL, were "1's", Brees sat so I'm not real panicked by the blasé offensive performance...

...after all, the first series saw Tom Savage throwing to Garret Griffin to convert a 3rd down against the Jags "No. 1's"...
Brings me to this - Payton & Co isolate QB vs QB in with the same variables (i.e. plays, personnel) so they can get a better sense of these reserve QBs...

...and on that note, comparing the two QBs styles is night and day - Savage is a conservative Brad Johnson style while Taysom Hill was more of a, well, TBD...

...what jumped out at me was Savage played smart, threw tentatively, whereas Hill threw with more authority, made bone-headed mistakes...

...and if Payton likes to gamble in drafts, why did we not spend last year's sixth round pick on Chad Kelly from Ole Miss??? He's looked great in Denver ...
Not ready to jump on the J. Williams band wagon, as I want to see him against the 1's; but Will Clapp, now, well he looked like a man leading that charge...
Brandon Tate wasn't consistently awesome in the return game, but if he can get it past the thirty or get fifteen yards a return - he's got a job...
And where was Tommylee last night?!? Does it matter if he can't get regular season looks?
Mitchell Loewen (not Lavin, Joel Myers you ****ing twit) is an active, leave it out there player; but he got hurt again playing that style?!?
To see Patrick Robinson play with instincts, turning his head on the ball and knock away a sure touchdown was a thing of beauty - really liking his re-signing...
Demario Davis is supposed to be a smart linebacker; so I get needing a learning curve, but that was about as dumb a play on the goal line as I've seen...
Our fourth Nose Tackle, Stallworth, is better than most team's starters - seriously; Loomis should be busy next week picking up third day draft picks...
Yeah, it's early, but I'm saying it - Dan Arnold is making this roster; yeah, he needs weight, but his key block sprung Scott to the goal line...

...and as only a rookie, he's already a mismatch in the passing game and has the best hands of all our Tight Ends already...
Going back to Clapp, he had the reserve units lined up and played well even against a few 1's last night - I like his chances of making this team...
Did anyone notice that Jamerson was the next cornerback up when P.J. Williams got shaken up last night? Like Jamerson's chances on that left side?
Colton Jumper must've been real tight, because that's got to be a record for missed tackles for a Mike Nolan-coached linebacker...
In my mind either a strong safety or middle linebacker should be your best, fundamentally sound tacklers on the team - WTF is Vonn Bell doing?
Seriously, seriously, seriously think Natrell Jamerson needs to see time at strong safety - Vonn Bell is gonna cost us games this year...
David Onyemata is an absolute freaking beast; que the sound of the apologist for Rankins among the announcers - we'll see what develops...
Trey Hendrickson has an incredible motor; right now, I'd say his ceiling is easily Will Smith, and that's not too bad for a late third round pick...
Did anybody catch Alvin Kamara throw a pass block on not one, but two Jacksonville No. 1 defenders? Did you also see Payton play it safe and sit him?
CantGuardMike is the early favorite for team MVP for this team's season; that was two of the best CBs in the NFL he text-booked last night...

...if not Mike Thomas, watch for Marcus Williams - this is a hombre en fuego, mann auf einer mission, a man in the zone...

TheOak · 08-10-2018, 05:53 PM

Yea.... No pressure... 6 sacks last night.

We averaged 2.62 sacks/game last season.

Back on yer meds joy pirate.

saintfan · 08-10-2018, 07:18 PM

I can't help but want to WIN, so every year I get caught up in that and fail to recognize it's preseason and winning isn't (necessarily) the point.

I was pleased in general but our LBers didn't impress.

We're going to cut a lot of people who might have made the team a couple years ago.

And I don't care. I want Hill to be Drew's backup. Logic be damned. LOL

08-10-2018, 05:19 PM	#1
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Post Game Saints vs Jaguars Observations There was one guy, I can’t remember which one, who had a training camp update one day and mentioned that Lattimore has been giving up quite a few catches. I remember reading that but it was just the one guy’s editorializing.

08-10-2018, 05:46 PM	#2
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,759	Re: Post Game Saints vs Jaguars Observations Originally Posted by ChrisXVI There was one guy, I can’t remember which one, who had a training camp update one day and mentioned that Lattimore has been giving up quite a few catches. I remember reading that but it was just the one guy’s editorializing. Yeah I read it too. The writer or whatever said something like that then finished it with, "but I'm not worried" or something. dizzle88 and ChrisXVI like this.

08-10-2018, 10:31 PM	#3
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Post Game Saints vs Jaguars Observations Originally Posted by ChrisXVI There was one guy, I can’t remember which one, who had a training camp update one day and mentioned that Lattimore has been giving up quite a few catches. I remember reading that but it was just the one guy’s editorializing. Y’all May have heard just one guy but I heard Bobby, Deuce, and Garic all say the same at some point during camp. I have also read in daily camp recap articles about him being beat to come up with this conclusion myself. Two other posters have backed me up saying they read it or heard it somewhere themselves on at least one occasion.Do you think I would just lie about it being said multiple times?
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08-11-2018, 03:21 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Post Game Saints vs Jaguars Observations Originally Posted by The Dude Y’all May have heard just one guy but I heard Bobby, Deuce, and Garic all say the same at some point during camp. I have also read in daily camp recap articles about him being beat to come up with this conclusion myself. Two other posters have backed me up saying they read it or heard it somewhere themselves on at least one occasion.Do you think I would just lie about it being said multiple times? They have all said that Lattimore was beat by Michael Thomas on a play or two here and there. And he was. But, Thomas faces him most every one on one and is one of the very best in the game. He will win his share. But what you choose to ignore are the other 95% of the plays where Lattimore dominates in practice. You have always had a tendency to gravitate to the lowest common denominator as far as opinion of our Saints. You hear one negative and it dominates your narrative from there on out.

08-10-2018, 05:25 PM	#5
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Post Game Saints vs Jaguars Observations I always say, if it’s one position I know it’s corner. Lattimore is the least of my concerns. Crawley is the one who needs to get his head around on deep throws and catch the ball when it hits his hands. Rugby Saint II, ChrisXVI and CharityMike like this.

08-10-2018, 05:28 PM	#6
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Post Game Saints vs Jaguars Observations Originally Posted by rezburna I always say, if it’s one position I know it’s corner. Lattimore is the least of my concerns. Crawley is the one who needs to get his head around on deep throws and catch the ball when it hits his hands. I was very impressed with the way Maulet got his head around and tracked the ball on that one go route he defended last night. Barry from MS likes this.

08-10-2018, 05:42 PM	#7
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Post Game Saints vs Jaguars Observations Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I was very impressed with the way Maulet got his head around and tracked the ball on that one go route he defended last night. Maulet has potential to make Crawley a very, valuable back up corner. ChrisXVI likes this.

08-10-2018, 05:52 PM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Post Game Saints vs Jaguars Observations Some thoughts about last night's game: Though the RB, WR, OL, were "1's", Brees sat so I'm not real panicked by the blasé offensive performance... ...after all, the first series saw Tom Savage throwing to Garret Griffin to convert a 3rd down against the Jags "No. 1's"... Brings me to this - Payton & Co isolate QB vs QB in with the same variables (i.e. plays, personnel) so they can get a better sense of these reserve QBs... ...and on that note, comparing the two QBs styles is night and day - Savage is a conservative Brad Johnson style while Taysom Hill was more of a, well, TBD... ...what jumped out at me was Savage played smart, threw tentatively, whereas Hill threw with more authority, made bone-headed mistakes... ...and if Payton likes to gamble in drafts, why did we not spend last year's sixth round pick on Chad Kelly from Ole Miss??? He's looked great in Denver ... Not ready to jump on the J. Williams band wagon, as I want to see him against the 1's; but Will Clapp, now, well he looked like a man leading that charge... Brandon Tate wasn't consistently awesome in the return game, but if he can get it past the thirty or get fifteen yards a return - he's got a job... And where was Tommylee last night?!? Does it matter if he can't get regular season looks? Mitchell Loewen (not Lavin, Joel Myers you ing twit) is an active, leave it out there player; but he got hurt again playing that style?!? To see Patrick Robinson play with instincts, turning his head on the ball and knock away a sure touchdown was a thing of beauty - really liking his re-signing... Demario Davis is supposed to be a smart linebacker; so I get needing a learning curve, but that was about as dumb a play on the goal line as I've seen... Our fourth Nose Tackle, Stallworth, is better than most team's starters - seriously; Loomis should be busy next week picking up third day draft picks... Yeah, it's early, but I'm saying it - Dan Arnold is making this roster; yeah, he needs weight, but his key block sprung Scott to the goal line... ...and as only a rookie, he's already a mismatch in the passing game and has the best hands of all our Tight Ends already... Going back to Clapp, he had the reserve units lined up and played well even against a few 1's last night - I like his chances of making this team... Did anyone notice that Jamerson was the next cornerback up when P.J. Williams got shaken up last night? Like Jamerson's chances on that left side? Colton Jumper must've been real tight, because that's got to be a record for missed tackles for a Mike Nolan-coached linebacker... In my mind either a strong safety or middle linebacker should be your best, fundamentally sound tacklers on the team - WTF is Vonn Bell doing? Seriously, seriously, seriously think Natrell Jamerson needs to see time at strong safety - Vonn Bell is gonna cost us games this year... David Onyemata is an absolute freaking beast; que the sound of the apologist for Rankins among the announcers - we'll see what develops... Trey Hendrickson has an incredible motor; right now, I'd say his ceiling is easily Will Smith, and that's not too bad for a late third round pick... Did anybody catch Alvin Kamara throw a pass block on not one, but two Jacksonville No. 1 defenders? Did you also see Payton play it safe and sit him? CantGuardMike is the early favorite for team MVP for this team's season; that was two of the best CBs in the NFL he text-booked last night... ...if not Mike Thomas, watch for Marcus Williams - this is a hombre en fuego, mann auf einer mission, a man in the zone... saintfan, SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.
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08-10-2018, 05:53 PM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Post Game Saints vs Jaguars Observations Yea.... No pressure... 6 sacks last night. We averaged 2.62 sacks/game last season. Back on yer meds joy pirate.

08-10-2018, 07:18 PM	#10
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Post Game Saints vs Jaguars Observations I can't help but want to WIN, so every year I get caught up in that and fail to recognize it's preseason and winning isn't (necessarily) the point. I was pleased in general but our LBers didn't impress. We're going to cut a lot of people who might have made the team a couple years ago. And I don't care. I want Hill to be Drew's backup. Logic be damned. LOL