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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by rezburna He’ll have an immediate impact, but Trey Hendrickson is going to push for those minutes. Trey has really looked good @ camp & in subsequent pre season games. In limited snaps, he has consistently beat the ...
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08-20-2018, 10:23 AM | #1 |
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Re: First-round pick Marcus Davenport expected to return for Saints this week against Chargers
Originally Posted by rezburna
Trey has really looked good @ camp & in subsequent pre season games. In limited snaps, he has consistently beat the man in front of him. I could completely off base here but I believe the D LINE will be the strength of our defense for 2018.
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Swapped picks and gave them a first
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Not all first round picks are created equally. A high first round pick is worth far, far more than a late first rounder. According to the Jimmy Johnson draft value chart the #1 pick (3000) is worth more than SIX times what the #32 pick (590) is valued.
According to the same chart the Saints moved the #27 pick (680) and the future 2019 pick which can be as low as #32 (590) and the 2018 #147 pick (32.2) for the 2018 #14 pick (1100). The relative values would be 1300.2 for 1100. Since New Orleans was the franchise initiating the deal it is expected to be a bit on the lower value end. All in all it isn't a bad deal at all, especially if Davenport pans out to be a top end edge rusher. |
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08-19-2018, 05:40 PM | #5 |
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Agreed. Good Point. I hear ya. Am with you on the points values as well...
But Ryan Ramczyk was a late first rounder, but a first round pick with a fifth year option nonetheless... How many teams would like to re-draft just the 2017 first round picks alone. I'd bet Ramczyk goes in the first sixteen... Those first round picks are huyuge!!! And I'd taken Ramczyk over Davenport seven days a week and three times on Sunday... |
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Re: First-round pick Marcus Davenport expected to return for Saints this week against Chargers
One thing about Payton is that when he trades up for a guy, minus Von Bell, it tends to work out.
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He BETTER contribute given what we gave for him. He needs to be as close to a sure thing as it gets. So far we have nothing.
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Re: First-round pick Marcus Davenport expected to return for Saints this week against Chargers
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Why exactly are you putting the responsibility on the player to be productive because of decisions that the front office and Payton made relative to the player. Davenport didn't engineer the trade. Davenport would have been picked in the mid teens regardless with exactly the same talent level he has now. So I see it that the Saints organization has ther responsibility to give Davenport the support and coaching necessary to justify the trade.
We saw exactly the same thing when the Saints jumped back into the first round to draft Ingram. A lot of folks were blaming the player for not having production to match the trade. It's taken some time, but I think we can all agree that Ingram's gotten there. SFIAH |
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That was really what I was saying. For the FO own good he better be a pretty sure thing. No reflection on the player unless he’s just lazy or a problem
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Re: First-round pick Marcus Davenport expected to return for Saints this week against Chargers
He'll likely deliver late in the season when we need it. Both playoff games looked liked carbon copies of hoping and praying we stop the hail mary's. We did stop one of them but barely. Pass rush sucked down the stretch. It was a void that had to be dealt with or die trying.
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