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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Cruize Maulet and Hardee simply outplayed Jamerson. Moore was a long shot and a wasted pick. Davenport is legit. Smith is legit. Scott is legit. Clapp outplayed some veterans and must be legit. Leonard was a project ...

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Old 09-03-2018, 06:00 AM   #1
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Re: Analysis: Saints’ cuts more about strength of roster than players selected

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Maulet and Hardee simply outplayed Jamerson. Moore was a long shot and a wasted pick. Davenport is legit. Smith is legit. Scott is legit. Clapp outplayed some veterans and must be legit. Leonard was a project and hopefully will make the 53 next year. Solid draft.
J.T. Gray did not out play Jamerson nor did he outplay him in S.T. That was just a mistake or personal choice to cut Jamerson. It also could be a ploy to be able to convince more undrafted free agents to consider signing here. I don't know the real reason but Jamerson should've made the 53. Luckily, this decision don't harm us in the long run with the depth we do have
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Old 09-03-2018, 08:39 AM   #2
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J.T. Gray did not out play Jamerson nor did he outplay him in S.T. That was just a mistake or personal choice to cut Jamerson. It also could be a ploy to be able to convince more undrafted free agents to consider signing here. I don't know the real reason but Jamerson should've made the 53. Luckily, this decision don't harm us in the long run with the depth we do have
We can have no idea of why any given player doesn't make the cut. It could be attitude or classroom related. Either of which would be completely unknown to the fan base and even media.
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:24 AM   #3
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We can have no idea of why any given player doesn't make the cut. It could be attitude or classroom related. Either of which would be completely unknown to the fan base and even media.
Dude, your points lose credibility as you defended the Leonard selection and told people they didn't know what they were talking about. Eat that crow. Yummy, delicious and nutritious
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:45 AM   #4
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Dude, your points lose credibility as you defended the Leonard selection and told people they didn't know what they were talking about. Eat that crow. Yummy, delicious and nutritious
Leonard is still a Saint. He may still develop into solid player. The majority of ALL draft picks can be deemed "wasted" as most do not make the original 53 man roster. Only time will tell.
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Old 09-03-2018, 12:57 PM   #5
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Leonard is still a Saint. He may still develop into solid player. The majority of ALL draft picks can be deemed "wasted" as most do not make the original 53 man roster. Only time will tell.
Yes they cannot admit their mistake just yet. Landon Turner was undrafted and spent a few seasons making the practice squad too, what's your point? The rest were gobbled up by other teams...not good ol Rick. You came on here, as you always do, telling people with legit concerns (that the draft pick made no sense because he was considered 7th round or not drafted) that they didn't know what they're talking about. It is near the same thing you say on damn near every post. People are here to espouse their opinions on the team. To discuss the decisions by the team. Guess what, news for you, we we're all right that his pick in that round was undeserved.

Now on to the next wait and see, how long until Sed Ellis brother, shankins, is with the team.

And btw just because we critize doesn't mean we don't all hope their super stars, of course we do. We are even happy to be wrong when the team improves as a result.
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Yes they cannot admit their mistake just yet. Landon Turner was undrafted and spent a few seasons making the practice squad too, what's your point? The rest were gobbled up by other teams...not good ol Rick. You came on here, as you always do, telling people with legit concerns (that the draft pick made no sense because he was considered 7th round or not drafted) that they didn't know what they're talking about. It is near the same thing you say on damn near every post. People are here to espouse their opinions on the team. To discuss the decisions by the team. Guess what, news for you, we we're all right that his pick in that round was undeserved.

Now on to the next wait and see, how long until Sed Ellis brother, shankins, is with the team.

And btw just because we critize doesn't mean we don't all hope their super stars, of course we do. We are even happy to be wrong when the team improves as a result.
And you normally complain about every move the Saints make whether off-season or in game. I'm sure you hope the best, but you constantly criticize. We've been debating this for years now.

You are ALWAYS going to be negative. I will ALWAYS be positive.

It's the way we roll. Going to always be friction, but our common ground is the love for our Saints. I know that.
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And you normally complain about every move the Saints make whether off-season or in game. I'm sure you hope the best, but you constantly criticize.
Yes, but you missed my praise of the TB selection, huh. Or my consistent praise of Davenport's play. I defended their selection of Ram and Peat.so no, I criticize what I feel is deserved. If I'm wrong I admit it.
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J.T. Gray did not out play Jamerson nor did he outplay him in S.T. That was just a mistake or personal choice to cut Jamerson. It also could be a ploy to be able to convince more undrafted free agents to consider signing here. I don't know the real reason but Jamerson should've made the 53. Luckily, this decision don't harm us in the long run with the depth we do have
Jamerson didn't last long on the market, did he. Kid did good for us. Mistake
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J.T. Gray did not out play Jamerson nor did he outplay him in S.T.
Here is a quick read on Gray. 6 foot, listed as a hybrid LB/hybrid safety. Fast, strong & can play the 6th slot at linebacker (played LB @ Miss St). Maybe he outplayed Stupar on special teams, no?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...4bf38.amp.html
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Re: Analysis: Saints’ cuts more about strength of roster than players selected

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Here is a quick read on Gray. 6 foot, listed as a hybrid LB/hybrid safety. Fast, strong & can play the 6th slot at linebacker (played LB @ Miss St). Maybe he outplayed Stupar on special teams, no?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...4bf38.amp.html
Maybe Major, but do you remember a stand-out play in the PreSeason from Gray?!?

I liked that we snag him for nothing outta State, but I hadn't seen anything that jumped out like Stupar...

Payton's comments knocking back at Stupar's outstanding play against the Rams has now led me to believe that Payton didn't want Stupar no matter what he'd done...
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