Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay

09-12-2018, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Nick Underhill said that Fitzpatrick was getting the ball out in under 2 seconds a lot of the time; including the bomb to Evans where he burned Lattimore. There isn’t much the pass rush can do in those situations. They just played a completely different ball game than we expected.

Excellent point but my counter to that would be Tampa had designed plays & quick releases yet OUR corners never adjusted to play press at the line. Rez could probably explain further but you gotta believe that would knock off timing on the QB. I saw no adjustments from Latt/Crawley or Dennis Allen.

I take nothing away from the Bucs. That was a terrific offensive game plan starting with their QB. Fitz balled.

AsylumGuido · 09-12-2018, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Nick Underhill said that Fitzpatrick was getting the ball out in under 2 seconds a lot of the time; including the bomb to Evans where he burned Lattimore. There isn’t much the pass rush can do in those situations. They just played a completely different ball game than we expected.

I hadn't seen that number yet, but it sure did appear he was getting it out quick. That's almost impossible to defend, but requires pinpoint accuracy. Fitz was on fire all day. I told a Bucs fan in New Orleans for the game that I was more concerned about Fitz than Winston. He agreed saying he is either crap or all-pro and you never know which you are going to get until the game starts.

AsylumGuido · 09-12-2018, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Excellent point but my counter to that would be Tampa had designed plays & quick releases yet OUR corners never adjusted to play press at the line. Rez could probably explain further but you gotta believe that would knock off timing on the QB. I saw no adjustments from Latt/Crawley or Dennis Allen.

I take nothing away from the Bucs. That was a terrific offensive game plan starting with their QB. Fitz balled.

I think you have highlighted the right area.

jeanpierre · 09-12-2018, 06:35 PM

ChrisXVI · 09-12-2018, 06:43 PM

Agreed. Trying to get too cute.

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Utah_Saint · 09-12-2018, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/SeanFazendeFOX8/...02910522888192

Kinda goin on a tangent...

On that Thomas fumble, did you notice who made the tackle on Ryan Smith? Max Unger. He ran 20 yards down field to make the tackle. He didn't know it was going to be a fumble when he took off running, but he followed the play like they teach you to do in Pop Warner. That coulda been a huge return.

That's the kind of hustle that separates winners from losers. He's a great example for the younger guys.

WillMacKenzie · 09-12-2018, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Kinda goin on a tangent...

On that Thomas fumble, did you notice who made the tackle on Ryan Smith? Max Unger. He ran 20 yards down field to make the tackle. He didn't know it was going to be a fumble when he took off running, but he followed the play like they teach you to do in Pop Warner. That coulda been a huge return.

That's the kind of hustle that separates winners from losers. He's a great example for the younger guys.

Love Unger, the guy never loses sight of the overall situation. That’s what you want a team made out of.

gulfgambler · 09-12-2018, 08:53 PM

BS loss, at home, 6 months to prepare, too much reading your own press clippings, defense regresses to 2015-16, NO, NONE, NADA F ing excuse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gulfgambler · 09-12-2018, 09:01 PM

de·fense
[dəˈfens, ˈdēˌfens]
NOUN

the action of defending from or resisting attack.

(in sports) the action or role of defending one's goal against the opposition.
"we played solid defense"

09-12-2018, 10:58 AM	#91
Threaded by K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Nick Underhill said that Fitzpatrick was getting the ball out in under 2 seconds a lot of the time; including the bomb to Evans where he burned Lattimore. There isn’t much the pass rush can do in those situations. They just played a completely different ball game than we expected. Excellent point but my counter to that would be Tampa had designed plays & quick releases yet OUR corners never adjusted to play press at the line. Rez could probably explain further but you gotta believe that would knock off timing on the QB. I saw no adjustments from Latt/Crawley or Dennis Allen. I take nothing away from the Bucs. That was a terrific offensive game plan starting with their QB. Fitz balled.
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09-12-2018, 11:35 AM	#92
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Nick Underhill said that Fitzpatrick was getting the ball out in under 2 seconds a lot of the time; including the bomb to Evans where he burned Lattimore. There isn’t much the pass rush can do in those situations. They just played a completely different ball game than we expected. I hadn't seen that number yet, but it sure did appear he was getting it out quick. That's almost impossible to defend, but requires pinpoint accuracy. Fitz was on fire all day. I told a Bucs fan in New Orleans for the game that I was more concerned about Fitz than Winston. He agreed saying he is either crap or all-pro and you never know which you are going to get until the game starts.

09-12-2018, 11:37 AM	#93
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by K Major Excellent point but my counter to that would be Tampa had designed plays & quick releases yet OUR corners never adjusted to play press at the line. Rez could probably explain further but you gotta believe that would knock off timing on the QB. I saw no adjustments from Latt/Crawley or Dennis Allen. I take nothing away from the Bucs. That was a terrific offensive game plan starting with their QB. Fitz balled. I think you have highlighted the right area.

09-12-2018, 06:35 PM	#94
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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Twitter Agreed. Trying to get too cute. saintfan, jnormand, WillMacKenzie and 1 others like this.

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09-12-2018, 08:03 PM	#96
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by jeanpierre https://twitter.com/SeanFazendeFOX8/...02910522888192 Kinda goin on a tangent... On that Thomas fumble, did you notice who made the tackle on Ryan Smith? Max Unger. He ran 20 yards down field to make the tackle. He didn't know it was going to be a fumble when he took off running, but he followed the play like they teach you to do in Pop Warner. That coulda been a huge return. That's the kind of hustle that separates winners from losers. He's a great example for the younger guys. jnormand and WillMacKenzie like this.

09-12-2018, 08:39 PM	#97
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Kinda goin on a tangent... On that Thomas fumble, did you notice who made the tackle on Ryan Smith? Max Unger. He ran 20 yards down field to make the tackle. He didn't know it was going to be a fumble when he took off running, but he followed the play like they teach you to do in Pop Warner. That coulda been a huge return. That's the kind of hustle that separates winners from losers. He's a great example for the younger guys. Love Unger, the guy never loses sight of the overall situation. That’s what you want a team made out of.

09-12-2018, 08:53 PM	#98
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay BS loss, at home, 6 months to prepare, too much reading your own press clippings, defense regresses to 2015-16, NO, NONE, NADA F ing excuse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

09-12-2018, 09:01 PM	#99
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay de·fense [dəˈfens, ˈdēˌfens] NOUN the action of defending from or resisting attack. (in sports) the action or role of defending one's goal against the opposition. "we played solid defense"

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