Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay

09-09-2018, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

While I will say the defense was absolutely awful today, I will also say that I've never seen Fitzpatrick play the QB position as well as he did today. It looked like it could hit a dime if it was thrown in the air with the football. Every pass he threw was perfect. We needed to get pressure on him, the pressure was nonexistent.

Don't give him too much credit. The pass rush was coming on wheel chairs and the WRs were all alone. It was pitch and catch.

Cruize · 09-09-2018, 08:09 PM

-Brees looks better than ever. Can play as long as he wants.
-Kamara is the biggest playmaker in the NFL.
-Thomas is the best WR in the NFL.
-LeRibeus played very well.

-No pass rush.
-Bad LB play. Give Robertson a shot. Geez.
-Crawley looked bad.
-Lattimore looked human.
-Invisible safety play.
-No plays made at all.
-The flag football rules for the QB are ridiculous. You can't land your weight on him? Jesus Christ.

-I fully expect the Saints to bounce back next week and beyond.
-Going to be a long week.

Euphoria · 09-09-2018, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Don't give him too much credit. The pass rush was coming on wheel chairs and the WRs were all alone. It was pitch and catch.

Actually you have to give him credit he put the ball up where only the WR's could get to it.

They took advantage of their WR's height over our shorter DB's.

saintfan · 09-09-2018, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Actually you have to give him credit he put the ball up where only the WR's could get to it.

They took advantage of their WR's height over our shorter DB's.

My point I guess is that he was not harassed. At all. That makes a very big difference. Nobody got in (or even close to) his face all day.

ChrisXVI · 09-09-2018, 08:29 PM

You know what? There’s something seriously wrong with how Dennis Allen prepares the defense in the offseason. We’re never prepared going into the season.

The Dude · 09-09-2018, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I don’t get Marshon Lattimore. People pointed out that he didn’t quite look the same in training camp... Then he didn’t look quite right in preseason. A lot of excuses were made though and we went about our business. Now the season starts and he’s looking bad. It’s fair to wonder if he’s been getting lazy.

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

If the offense has zero turnovers, do we still lose this game?

The offense gave them a TD and the second turnover directly led to another.

No. 48 points directly lead to the outcome of the game. Only reason they didn’t rack up more points is because they took their foot off the gas. 48 points is unacceptable especially at home. Even if we had made the comeback would it really had made you feel much better? You can’t rely on your offense to score 50 points a game to win.

K Major · 09-09-2018, 08:37 PM

Coaching on the defensive side was an F today.

There is no way you can convince me Jordan, Williams, Davis, Okafor, Lattimore are as bad as they looked today. This defense is too talented to perform this poorly.

I don't even think Tampa punted the entire game.

spkb25 · 09-09-2018, 08:45 PM

I don't think this is a throw away. Look at the preseason and how bad we we're against the run. Our d tackles are horrendous. I'm in DRP and did not even see the game but I can almost guarantee that omata, Shankins, and Davidson didn't do much of anything. I said at the close of last season our biggest need was d tackle. I may be wrong but from the sounds of Fitz's numbers we did not get an ounce of pressure

The Dude · 09-09-2018, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I don't think this is a throw away. Look at the preseason and how bad we we're against the run. Our d tackles are horrendous. I'm in DRP and did not even see the game but I can almost guarantee that omata, Shankins, and Davidson didn't do much of anything. I said at the close of last season our biggest need was d tackle. I may be wrong but from the sounds of Fitz's numbers we did not get an ounce of pressure

Zero pressure. Surprisingly our run D wasn’t too bad. We got killed by the big play through the air.

CharityMike · 09-09-2018, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I don't think this is a throw away. Look at the preseason and how bad we we're against the run. Our d tackles are horrendous. I'm in DRP and did not even see the game but I can almost guarantee that omata, Shankins, and Davidson didn't do much of anything. I said at the close of last season our biggest need was d tackle. I may be wrong but from the sounds of Fitz's numbers we did not get an ounce of pressure

Well Omata obviously didn't get the memo that you can't drive the QB into the ground.

09-09-2018, 07:59 PM	#41
Threaded by saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by hitta While I will say the defense was absolutely awful today, I will also say that I've never seen Fitzpatrick play the QB position as well as he did today. It looked like it could hit a dime if it was thrown in the air with the football. Every pass he threw was perfect. We needed to get pressure on him, the pressure was nonexistent. Don't give him too much credit. The pass rush was coming on wheel chairs and the WRs were all alone. It was pitch and catch. jnormand, frydaddy and Rell&Gold like this.
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09-09-2018, 08:09 PM	#42
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay -Brees looks better than ever. Can play as long as he wants. -Kamara is the biggest playmaker in the NFL. -Thomas is the best WR in the NFL. -LeRibeus played very well. -No pass rush. -Bad LB play. Give Robertson a shot. Geez. -Crawley looked bad. -Lattimore looked human. -Invisible safety play. -No plays made at all. -The flag football rules for the QB are ridiculous. You can't land your weight on him? Jesus Christ. -I fully expect the Saints to bounce back next week and beyond. -Going to be a long week. jnormand, SmashMouth, 73Saint and 1 others like this.
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09-09-2018, 08:14 PM	#43
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by saintfan Don't give him too much credit. The pass rush was coming on wheel chairs and the WRs were all alone. It was pitch and catch. Actually you have to give him credit he put the ball up where only the WR's could get to it. They took advantage of their WR's height over our shorter DB's.

09-09-2018, 08:21 PM	#44
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by Euphoria Actually you have to give him credit he put the ball up where only the WR's could get to it. They took advantage of their WR's height over our shorter DB's. My point I guess is that he was not harassed. At all. That makes a very big difference. Nobody got in (or even close to) his face all day. CharityMike, Rell&Gold and K Major like this.

09-09-2018, 08:29 PM	#45
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay You know what? There’s something seriously wrong with how Dennis Allen prepares the defense in the offseason. We’re never prepared going into the season. jnormand and Rsanders24 like this.

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09-09-2018, 08:35 PM	#46
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I don’t get Marshon Lattimore. People pointed out that he didn’t quite look the same in training camp... Then he didn’t look quite right in preseason. A lot of excuses were made though and we went about our business. Now the season starts and he’s looking bad. It’s fair to wonder if he’s been getting lazy. Originally Posted by SmashMouth If the offense has zero turnovers, do we still lose this game? The offense gave them a TD and the second turnover directly led to another. No. 48 points directly lead to the outcome of the game. Only reason they didn’t rack up more points is because they took their foot off the gas. 48 points is unacceptable especially at home. Even if we had made the comeback would it really had made you feel much better? You can’t rely on your offense to score 50 points a game to win.
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09-09-2018, 08:37 PM	#47
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Coaching on the defensive side was an F today. There is no way you can convince me Jordan, Williams, Davis, Okafor, Lattimore are as bad as they looked today. This defense is too talented to perform this poorly. I don't even think Tampa punted the entire game. Rsanders24, frydaddy, CharityMike and 1 others like this.

09-09-2018, 08:45 PM	#48
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay I don't think this is a throw away. Look at the preseason and how bad we we're against the run. Our d tackles are horrendous. I'm in DRP and did not even see the game but I can almost guarantee that omata, Shankins, and Davidson didn't do much of anything. I said at the close of last season our biggest need was d tackle. I may be wrong but from the sounds of Fitz's numbers we did not get an ounce of pressure Rell&Gold and MarchingOn like this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by spkb25 I don't think this is a throw away. Look at the preseason and how bad we we're against the run. Our d tackles are horrendous. I'm in DRP and did not even see the game but I can almost guarantee that omata, Shankins, and Davidson didn't do much of anything. I said at the close of last season our biggest need was d tackle. I may be wrong but from the sounds of Fitz's numbers we did not get an ounce of pressure Zero pressure. Surprisingly our run D wasn’t too bad. We got killed by the big play through the air.
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09-09-2018, 09:10 PM	#50
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Observations from the Saints first game loss to Tampa Bay Originally Posted by spkb25 I don't think this is a throw away. Look at the preseason and how bad we we're against the run. Our d tackles are horrendous. I'm in DRP and did not even see the game but I can almost guarantee that omata, Shankins, and Davidson didn't do much of anything. I said at the close of last season our biggest need was d tackle. I may be wrong but from the sounds of Fitz's numbers we did not get an ounce of pressure Well Omata obviously didn't get the memo that you can't drive the QB into the ground.

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