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But the play by play for this jets game isn’t impressing me. It’s a joke. Is she calling games all year?

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I agree. No point in having a woman that is trying to sound like a man.

Maybe they should have started with a gender-neutral announcer, then moved to a full-blown woman?

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Maybe she just needs to self-identify as a man?

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Maybe Kaitlyn Jenner?

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Her voice sounded way too loud and was distracting. It's as if she was announcing at a cheerleading competition, trying to project over loud music or something.

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Some things should be left to tradition.

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Yeah, I agree she sounded awful.

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She is the lady that does the college softball world series too. She sounds better calling the games in OKC than football games. My wife even said the same.

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Bottom line, it was boring. Sounds like no fun in the booth. No laughter, no jokes, just plain boring.

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You shouldn't even need to start your post defending yourself. If it had been a guy that was terrible, for instance I think Joe theisman is the worst, you wouldn't need to put a disclaimer on it. You're entitled to your opinion. They're going to shove this down people's throats because it is somehow progress. It no longer matters who is the best. Sacrifice talent for their form of equality. The only place you'll never see that is actually on sports teams where results dominate.

I'm really turning into a casual fan of football. I didn't even watch the season opener for us because of where I am and it wasn't even a big deal. 10 years ago I bled football...in and out. It's getting boring. For me. Other people it may not be, but for me

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This would be an interesting experiment as an announcer...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...oomMpegMan.jpg

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Beth Mowins was absolutely horrible calling that game. She should stick to women's sports, because I know I won't watch any of it.

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Apparently I have started a sexist thread and a member of this board is highly offended. My bad Guido. Didn’t mean to hurt your feelings.

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Way to deflect. Ignore everything else.

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The constant political correctness is getting old. Obviously, the majority in this thread all agree with OP. So just leave it alone. Why do you have to get all high and mighty?

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Saintfan (wisely) has no opinion one way or the other. As a former broadcaster I will only say she's as good as many I've heard, better than some, worse than others.

Saintfan says, "whatever plows your garden"

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I didn't even know anything about this person or ever heard of her. Maybe I am lucky lol.

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What did I miss?

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Just let it go. Lets move on to Browns and hope our D can get their heads out their butts.

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I'm familiar with her from college football games that she occasionally does. She does try WAY too hard to sound masculine. Her voice might be deep for a woman, but you can tell she puts emphasis on it. I don't like when male announcers fake their voices, it's so pretentious and irritating. It's maybe worse when a woman does it.

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This is amusing listening to a bunch of guys bag on one of the first female game callers and then worry they will be called sexist.

"Some things should be left to tradition" says it all.

Guess what? Traditionally, women couldn't own property in the United States.

Women still make only $.80 for every $1 a man earns. That means that a woman will have to work a decade longer to earn as much as a man.

Fun fact: A 1600s law in Massachusetts proscribed that a woman suffer the same punishment as a witch if they "tempted" man into marriage by wearing high-heeled shoes.

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Yep.

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Women don't make 80 cents to every dollar of a man... you're blatantly lying.

That said, if she sucks, she sucks....nothing is deserved because she is female.

You're wrlcome

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Here's a fun fact for you: No one cares who's the first, or one of the first females to do ANYTHING. The criticism is based off of basic observations that have nothing to do with gender. I think it's annoying that she tries to sound masculine, but I would think the same of a man trying to sound like a woman. I'm an equal opportunity critic, and I would say most here are, as well.

Here's another thing for you to chew on. What women make as compared to men is ON AVERAGE. There are plenty of women who make more than most men. But because most women aren't like you, and they believe in traditional family values, and that a mother should be home with her children, a lot of women don't really pursue a career, and thus they make less money on average. It has nothing to do with prejudice. Women have opportunities now that they never dreamed of a hundred years ago. But, just like the rest of the phony social justice movements, people would rather cling to the past so that they can have something to feel sorry for themselves about.

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6 charts show how much more men make than women

Actually, WHODATINCA is absolutely correct. The article above from 8/27/2018 in the respectable BusinessInsider.com states the following:

The rest of the article show absolute support for the numbers. And it isn't just this one source. The same number can be found all over with little effort.

Unfortunately, it is the sad truth.

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Let us end all this gender bulls1it once and for all.

New announcer model.

https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic.../1472000_1.jpg

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The statistics are correct as they are framed, but the framing is skewed. People are interpreting as women making 20% less for doing the same job. Which just isn't the case.

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As a fan of women's college basketball I have been listening to Mowins call games for almost 25 years. Her voice has always held that same timber. It is how she has always talked. Perhaps it is the fact that I am so used to her call that I didn't even notice anything out of place in her call this Monday.

That said, I really don't have any issue with any play-by-play or color announcer. To me they are nothing more than background noise sharing information while I am watching the game.

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Actually it's a lie. It had been demonstrated over and over. They're taking all jobs and figuring the money earned over all fields and putting it into one pile. Women choose to work in fields that offer naturally lower compensation. When you take a male and female engineer with the same time in the field and working the same hours the compensation is near identical.

Being Intentionally dishonest about something is shameful.

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Bingo, it's a lie and shameful how the liars know and understand this, but still pretend their ignorance.

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I beg to differ. The numbers are based upon equivalent job ranges in equivalent industries as reported in US Census data. But, your mind will never be changed, so ...

:rolleyes:

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I'm sure she has been using the same voice for a long time. That doesn't have anything to do with the point that she exaggerates for the "TV voice". Lot's of announcers do it, and they all annoy me.

That's fine if it doesn't annoy you. To each their own, and such.

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I am not particularly well versed in this subject and even I know this to be false.

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It's actually not taking into account the hours worked, full time vs part time, years in the field, and the actual position.

Again, it's a lie

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So it should be except when the person is a woman. Apparently then you must enjoy her or you're sexist.

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https://amp.businessinsider.com/imag...8-960-1149.jpg

Read the note at the bottom.

The overall gender pay ratio compares the median annual earnings of men and women working full-time, year-round. The gender pay gap in dollars is the difference between the median annual earnings of men and women working full-time, year-round.

This is just one of many breakdowns. You obviously didn't look at, or didn't comprehend, the link I provided.

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Woman couldn’t get credit cards until the 70s either. It wasn’t even as much the fact that she is a woman than the fact that it just wasn’t entertaining. I like a lot of the sideline reporters.
I like the tradition of football. The intro music, the NFL emblem graphics, etc. I just prefer the male announcers. The whole broadcast lacked intensity. Reminded me of a preseason game.

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https://amp.businessinsider.com/imag...b9-960-757.png

And, again ... read the note ...

Shows median earnings for full time, year-round female workers as a percent of similar male workers.

Remember, these numbers all come from the US Census Bureau.

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And again hours worked, years in the field, and actual job and position are not taken into account. It is a lie

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Women study and naturally choose lower earning fields.