Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons
 

Meredith excelled with Jeffrey getting the attention. MT is for us so no reason he can't do the same.

Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons
 

I didn't make make bets for or against Saints players. I want them all to do well. You have an agenda and why you keep bringing it up. I said he would not be the WR2 when we signed him and would not emerge as it in training camp or start of the season. That is what I said and I was correct. That is exactly what happened. Ginn is still the #2. Actually #3 in terms of catches. CM is in a 3 way tie for 4th place.

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I didn't make a bet against any Saints player, either. Where are you getting off saying that? And what's this with the #2 WR stuff? I'm not saying that he'll be the #2 WR nor is that what the bet I have with The Dude implying. He said Meredith wouldn't start eight games (due to injury or whatever). I said he would. And what is your obsession with a bet between two other forum members. As I said, it not really any of your business.

That said, as of right now I'd say that Meredith is the #1 slot receiver. As I expected from the day he was signed.

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Oh he ALWAYS has an agenda. Don’t think for a second all this Rah Rah Rah 16-0 stuff is real. He cares more about how people respond to him than he does about the team. If Meridith was that much of a difference maker they would have targeted him more than once.

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Meredith has already produced more TD's than Willie Snead did from the slot all of last season. And you know as well as I do that targets from Brees can, and will, vary tremendously from game to game ... other than his true "go to" players (Graham, Colston, and now Thomas and Kamara).

And I call total bull**** about my not caring about this team. I am over the top fanatical about my Saints. If I care one iota about how people respond to me I wouldn't piss you off so much. ;) It's quite the opposite. I really don't care how any of you respond to me. It's all about my Saints, Baby!

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So you are willing to go on the record and state by the end of the season CM will have more catches than either Tre'Quan or Carr? I'm not willing to do that and was not when we signed him, injury or no injury. Right now I am still correct in my assumption. Nobody would emerge as the clear best WR out of that group.

I watched CM the whole "good" season with the Bears. Every single game. What I saw was a horrible team, decimated with injury at WR. They threw him out there and were often playing with no shot of winning the game. That is what I watched. I watched him loosely covered most of the time because it did not matter. One of his TDs was a hail mary that bounced off someone's head and landed in his hands with him standing there. That is what I watched. And look what is happening now. Peyton said it's not injury. His routes and timing are off. Now all of a sudden he got it. No way. Not after Carr and Smith have been there the whole time.

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I'm going on record as saying that Cameron Meredith will spend the majority of the season as a regular part of the offense and most likely the primary slot receiver. That's all I ever said and was the basis for my bet.

As for your "expert" scouting report on Meredith, I really don't care. Did it ever occur to you that you may not be anywhere near as accomplished at NFL talent evaluation as you might imagine?

The Saints front office didn't pay $5 million to have a bench warming #5 WR as you claim.

Talk about pulling against Saints players. Regardless of what you think your narrative against Meredith is clear as day.

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They did pay that much for a bench warmer. It only took a turn yesterday. Before that, they absolutely were paying 5 mil for a bench warmer. Doesn't even matter. If he emerges next week with 2 catches great. If he gets 0 and Tre'Quan gets two that is also great. Does not matter to me. For you though that is not good. You are on your way to losing financially.

Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons
 

$20 bucks. Big deal. But I will win. You want the same bet? You say that Meredith will not be a regular part of the Saints offense for seven of the remaining games? I'll take your money too. It'll give you another reason to pull against a Saints player of which you obviously have an irrational negative opinion.

Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons
 

Take all that MONEY Guido !

Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons
 

It's actually very rational. He was the star on a 3-13 team where several of the starting WR's were on IR. If not for that he would have never seen the field or not enough to matter but that happened so here we are.



Nobody has emerged as the slot WR. 1 catch does not make anyone the hands down winner. It takes a body of consistent work for that to happen.



What is irrational is basing anything off of one 11 yard TD grab with nothing else behind it. He literally has 1 single catch going into week four.

Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons
 

I bet you $20 bucks that there will be 10 more threads that wind up talking about the $20 bet with Guido.

Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons
 

And it will be Beastmode that bring it up every time. LOL!!

Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons
 

So that means he will fail. Okay. I see your logic. Or lack thereof.

:p

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I hope he has success and know everyone on this forum wants that to happen. What I won't do is crown him the slot at this time. I was not willing to do that when we signed him, through training camp, PS or even now. Not enough body of work to say he is our best option. That is what I have said from day one. Nothing has changed my mind so far. Is he our best option? I can't say. I honestly do not know. If he gets 2 catches next game then yeah, he is on his way. I want to see a small amount of consistency. I don't think that is too much to expect. Could Tre'Quan emerge next week? I have no freaking idea. I just hope we figure it out because MT and Kamara can't keep this up forever.

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Yet you constantly attack my support for my confidence in his success?

Okay.

Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons
 

Good hell....I'll bet all you guys 20 bucks that there will be at least 2 more pages on this thread about this arguement.

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Nope. Not covering that. LOL!

Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons
 

When you have a great receiver as your number 2 option, it tends to open up things a lot for the offense. Just look what Ridley did to us yesterday. Ridley is the type of player that needs to be covered by a Lattimore caliber DB. Unfortunately we couldn't do that cause they have Julio Jones as well. I hate to admit it, but Jones and Ridley together is scary... and we saw that yesterday. There will be a ton of teams that will have a hard time covering that combo. If Meredith can make big strides in the offense, we are going to be hard as **** to cover as well. Our offense I think is going to be scary good as the season plays out. Once our running game gets into gear with Ingram, I think we're going to put up a ton of points every game. If our defense can just make some strides, I think we'll be fine. I don't even think our defense needs to be as good as it was last year to be successful, but it has to be better than it has been.

Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons
 

You made a personal bet against other players on your team. I have no skin in that game. I never bet for or against him or anyone else. If you lose the bet then there will be a financial loss and also ridicule by others.

Just not something I get involved in. I have a higher morale code. I root for what is best for the team. If he emerges great. So far nobody owns that role and we are heading in to week 4 and , as I have firmly stated, would be the case. He has one catch just like everyone else. It is a TD but it is also for much less yards than the other two receptions by quite a bit.

If you believe he is going to be rolling as the 3rd WR then great. I base my convictions on reality. He has already had a setback as he stated in injury recovery. I took that as actually bad. Not sure how you read it. Coach also said his timing and route running is off. I took that as bad. These are not my words. These are from him and Peyton.

Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons
 

Hey. Show me where Meredith said he had any setback in his injury recovery. I call BS on that. I've followed his recovery closely since we signed him until he hit the field this past week.

I assume you are referring to this:

Re: Saints trying to work Cameron Meredith into game plan for Falcons
 

Snap count wk 3:

Craig Robertson - 0. Wow.

The only thing I can think of is that CR is getting eaten up in coverage at practice, no? On the flip side, Anzalone appears lost a lot at times.

FWIW, Craig Robertson did come up with the fumble off of that blocked (Okafor) punt. He's always around the ball. That was a huge momentum swing in the game.

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I'm beginning to think that Robertson is an instinctual freak, but is having issues comprehending the complexity of the defense. That would explain everything. It doesn't matter how physically talented a player is if he cannot stay on the same page as the rest of the defense. Special teams allow more individuality.