Is AK alright?

AsylumGuido · 09-25-2018, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Either SP is being stubborn, or coaches simply don't trust him.

I guess the question is who do you drop top activate Scott?

K Major · 09-25-2018, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I guess the question is who do you drop top activate Scott?

I truly believe Payton will roll with Jonathan Williams & Gillisbie

one last week before angry Ingram returns.

AsylumGuido · 09-25-2018, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I truly believe Payton will roll with Jonathan Williams & Gillisbie one last week before angry Ingram returns.

I think so too. The issue with bringing Scott up now is trying to slip him back onto the practice squad.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-25-2018, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I think so too. The issue with bringing Scott up now is trying to slip him back onto the practice squad.

Why does that really matter? All 32 practice squads are a shared NFL resource. Any team can sign any player off any practice squad at any time. The only requirement is that you must sign a practice squad player to your 53 man roster. So Scott is really no more protected on the Saints practice squad than he is if we bring him up and then send him back down. The only difference is that a player off waivers can be placed on someone else's practice squad whereas a player signed off the practice squad must go the 53, and then presumably waivers, before they can be placed on someone else's practice squad.

If we need the guy, bring him up.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 09-25-2018, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Why does that really matter? All 32 practice squads are a shared NFL resource. Any team can sign any player off any practice squad at any time. The only requirement is that you must sign a practice squad player to your 53 man roster. So Scott is really no more protected on the Saints practice squad than he is if we bring him up and then send him back down. The only difference is that a player off waivers can be placed on someone else's practice squad whereas a player signed off the practice squad must go the 53, and then presumably waivers, before they can be placed on someone else's practice squad.

If we need the guy, bring him up.

SFIAH

The protection that comes into play is that if a team attempts to claim a player off your practice squad, you have the option to promote them to your 53 man roster blocking that move. On the other hand, as you mentioned, if you later decide to demote him back to the practice squad he would first have to clear waivers and at that point you cannot protect him. That would be my worry.

In other words, I conditionally agree ... if we need the guy, bring him up, but be prepared to have him as one of your 53 for the remainder of the season.

Budsdrinker · 09-26-2018, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I think so too. The issue with bringing Scott up now is trying to slip him back onto the practice squad.

There also may be an issue with him understanding protection calls with pass blocking. Ingram is great with this and is probably under appreciated with this part of his game. This could be why Scott is still on PS to learn more. You already have to cut someone next week when Ingram comes back and with the issues with the secondary and need to sign DB's it would be hard to justify a roster spot for Scott with the risk of having to pass him thru waivers if cut again. Now back to AK. He has 67 touches in 3 weeks. He has fewer than McCaffery, Gurley and a couple others. Hell AP has almost as many rushing attempts as total touches for AK. I'm sure he can handle it.

turbo_dog · 10-01-2018, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Anyone else think Taysom Hill might be the second string running back next week?

HaHa! Remember this? I'd say I nailed it on this one. Welcome back, Mark Ingram!

09-25-2018, 12:29 PM	#41
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Is AK alright? Originally Posted by K Major Either SP is being stubborn, or coaches simply don't trust him. I guess the question is who do you drop top activate Scott?

09-25-2018, 12:55 PM	#42
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,044 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is AK alright? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I guess the question is who do you drop top activate Scott? I truly believe Payton will roll with Jonathan Williams & Gillisbie one last week before angry Ingram returns.

09-25-2018, 12:57 PM	#43
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Is AK alright? Originally Posted by K Major I truly believe Payton will roll with Jonathan Williams & Gillisbie one last week before angry Ingram returns. I think so too. The issue with bringing Scott up now is trying to slip him back onto the practice squad.

09-25-2018, 02:09 PM	#44
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	Re: Is AK alright? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I think so too. The issue with bringing Scott up now is trying to slip him back onto the practice squad. Why does that really matter? All 32 practice squads are a shared NFL resource. Any team can sign any player off any practice squad at any time. The only requirement is that you must sign a practice squad player to your 53 man roster. So Scott is really no more protected on the Saints practice squad than he is if we bring him up and then send him back down. The only difference is that a player off waivers can be placed on someone else's practice squad whereas a player signed off the practice squad must go the 53, and then presumably waivers, before they can be placed on someone else's practice squad. If we need the guy, bring him up. SFIAH
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09-25-2018, 03:29 PM	#45
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Is AK alright? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Why does that really matter? All 32 practice squads are a shared NFL resource. Any team can sign any player off any practice squad at any time. The only requirement is that you must sign a practice squad player to your 53 man roster. So Scott is really no more protected on the Saints practice squad than he is if we bring him up and then send him back down. The only difference is that a player off waivers can be placed on someone else's practice squad whereas a player signed off the practice squad must go the 53, and then presumably waivers, before they can be placed on someone else's practice squad. If we need the guy, bring him up. SFIAH The protection that comes into play is that if a team attempts to claim a player off your practice squad, you have the option to promote them to your 53 man roster blocking that move. On the other hand, as you mentioned, if you later decide to demote him back to the practice squad he would first have to clear waivers and at that point you cannot protect him. That would be my worry. In other words, I conditionally agree ... if we need the guy, bring him up, but be prepared to have him as one of your 53 for the remainder of the season.
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09-26-2018, 12:58 PM	#46
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Is AK alright? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I think so too. The issue with bringing Scott up now is trying to slip him back onto the practice squad. There also may be an issue with him understanding protection calls with pass blocking. Ingram is great with this and is probably under appreciated with this part of his game. This could be why Scott is still on PS to learn more. You already have to cut someone next week when Ingram comes back and with the issues with the secondary and need to sign DB's it would be hard to justify a roster spot for Scott with the risk of having to pass him thru waivers if cut again. Now back to AK. He has 67 touches in 3 weeks. He has fewer than McCaffery, Gurley and a couple others. Hell AP has almost as many rushing attempts as total touches for AK. I'm sure he can handle it.

10-01-2018, 01:18 PM	#47
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,541	Re: Is AK alright? Originally Posted by turbo_dog Anyone else think Taysom Hill might be the second string running back next week? HaHa! Remember this? I'd say I nailed it on this one. Welcome back, Mark Ingram!

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