Saints Re-Signing WR Brandon Tate

AsylumGuido · 09-26-2018, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I think the answer is that Allen put too many wrinkles in the defense and never gave any position group time to gel. He needs to simplify the scheme again and let the talent stop thinking all the time and just do their job instinctively.

You beat me to it, Rugby. But, yes, I agree. It's too logical not to be the reason.

Rugby Saint II · 09-26-2018, 02:48 PM

OMG! I knew I recognized that coaching pattern from somewhere. That was it.

ScottF · 09-26-2018, 08:13 PM

Back to the OP...

I'm also worried that Carr won't survive on PS. With Meredith finally ready to play, do we risk Smith on PS?

As for 'risking' Hill back there, pretty much everything we have asked him to do falls under the risk category. Sure-handed, big, and smart. He'd be my choice.
Just please not Kamara or Ginn

Rugby Saint II · 09-26-2018, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Back to the OP...

I'm also worried that Carr won't survive on PS. With Meredith finally ready to play, do we risk Smith on PS?

As for 'risking' Hill back there, pretty much everything we have asked him to do falls under the risk category. Sure-handed, big, and smart. He'd be my choice.
Just please not Kamara or Ginn

Smith would be long gone if we tried to move him to the PS.

dizzle88 · 09-27-2018, 06:50 PM

So these multi millionaires can't handle their jobs getting harder as they progress in their careers?

If I want to be paid more I have to learn new information, new skills and do more work. These guys are earning millions of dollars and seem to get confused when they run something other than "man coverage."

It's their job to learn new schemes and become better/more intelligent players.

AsylumGuido · 09-27-2018, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

So these multi millionaires can't handle their jobs getting harder as they progress in their careers?

If I want to be paid more I have to learn new information, new skills and do more work. These guys are earning millions of dollars and seem to get confused when they run something other than "man coverage."

It's their job to learn new schemes and become better/more intelligent players.

Perhaps they aren't as intelligent as you or I or others. Or perhaps their management is not putting them into the position to succeed.

Yet, as others have pointed out. Some players leave and produce. Go figure.

The Dude · 09-28-2018, 12:43 AM

Well since many of them attend college at football factories that let them slide big time when it comes to academics. For every Cam Jordon you have three who can’t complete a coherent sentence. Lattimore seems to be one of them.
Maybe I’m just down on him for throwing the offense under the bus after the Browns game. He said something to the effect of “since our offense wasn’t getting it done we had to step up”

Cruize · 09-28-2018, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I'd rather see him somewhere on the dline...

Blitzing from somewhere for real. Would love to see a stat line of a sack, a pass td, a run td, a reception and a blocked kick.

AsylumGuido · 09-28-2018, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Maybe I’m just down on him for throwing the offense under the bus after the Browns game. He said something to the effect of “since our offense wasn’t getting it done we had to step up”

Not doubting you, but do you have some sort of link to that statement? I'm wanting to see the actual wording or context, but I can't find it.

I remember him being asked something about the importance of Williams' interception in the fourth quarter and him saying something about how the defense had to make a stop at that point. He may have even used the term "step it up", but I can't find it. I have noticed that he does use that term quite a bit.

09-26-2018, 02:35 PM	#21
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints Re-Signing WR Brandon Tate Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I think the answer is that Allen put too many wrinkles in the defense and never gave any position group time to gel. He needs to simplify the scheme again and let the talent stop thinking all the time and just do their job instinctively. You beat me to it, Rugby. But, yes, I agree. It's too logical not to be the reason.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Saints Re-Signing WR Brandon Tate OMG! I knew I recognized that coaching pattern from somewhere. That was it.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints Re-Signing WR Brandon Tate Back to the OP... I'm also worried that Carr won't survive on PS. With Meredith finally ready to play, do we risk Smith on PS? As for 'risking' Hill back there, pretty much everything we have asked him to do falls under the risk category. Sure-handed, big, and smart. He'd be my choice. Just please not Kamara or Ginn Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Saints Re-Signing WR Brandon Tate Originally Posted by ScottF Back to the OP... I'm also worried that Carr won't survive on PS. With Meredith finally ready to play, do we risk Smith on PS? As for 'risking' Hill back there, pretty much everything we have asked him to do falls under the risk category. Sure-handed, big, and smart. He'd be my choice. Just please not Kamara or Ginn Smith would be long gone if we tried to move him to the PS. Barry from MS likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: Saints Re-Signing WR Brandon Tate So these multi millionaires can't handle their jobs getting harder as they progress in their careers? If I want to be paid more I have to learn new information, new skills and do more work. These guys are earning millions of dollars and seem to get confused when they run something other than "man coverage." It's their job to learn new schemes and become better/more intelligent players.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints Re-Signing WR Brandon Tate Originally Posted by dizzle88 So these multi millionaires can't handle their jobs getting harder as they progress in their careers? If I want to be paid more I have to learn new information, new skills and do more work. These guys are earning millions of dollars and seem to get confused when they run something other than "man coverage." It's their job to learn new schemes and become better/more intelligent players. Perhaps they aren't as intelligent as you or I or others. Or perhaps their management is not putting them into the position to succeed. Yet, as others have pointed out. Some players leave and produce. Go figure.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Saints Re-Signing WR Brandon Tate Well since many of them attend college at football factories that let them slide big time when it comes to academics. For every Cam Jordon you have three who can’t complete a coherent sentence. Lattimore seems to be one of them. Maybe I’m just down on him for throwing the offense under the bus after the Browns game. He said something to the effect of “since our offense wasn’t getting it done we had to step up”
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Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Saints Re-Signing WR Brandon Tate Originally Posted by saintfan I'd rather see him somewhere on the dline... Blitzing from somewhere for real. Would love to see a stat line of a sack, a pass td, a run td, a reception and a blocked kick.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints Re-Signing WR Brandon Tate Originally Posted by The Dude Maybe I’m just down on him for throwing the offense under the bus after the Browns game. He said something to the effect of “since our offense wasn’t getting it done we had to step up” Not doubting you, but do you have some sort of link to that statement? I'm wanting to see the actual wording or context, but I can't find it. I remember him being asked something about the importance of Williams' interception in the fourth quarter and him saying something about how the defense had to make a stop at that point. He may have even used the term "step it up", but I can't find it. I have noticed that he does use that term quite a bit.

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