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spkb25 · 05-20-2005, 06:54 PM

no it doesnt mean deuce is getting the ball and headed right. it more then likely means deuce is lining up on the right side. which is probally why it was called stronger right slot before. that is just my guess

WhoDat · 05-20-2005, 06:59 PM

Bottom line, it requires people to think.

A more verbose play calling system at least has the benefit of telling everyone what he is supposed to do on that play. Our guys can't remember the snap count, you think 25 seconds after getting the play call they're going to be able to remember that Arizona used to me guard trap?? LOL

Why am I getting a vision of one of those old silent movies where everyone ran around in circles and it looked like total mayhem??

spkb25 · 05-20-2005, 07:17 PM

what keystone cops whodat. i think one thing they were saying is that the plays were so long in words last year that it was causing a problem with getting the plays on the field. so im not sure if this helps or doesnt to be honest. but i like the idea of keeping things simple as far as the amount of looks by arron and what not. so i guess we will see. but i hope it works to our best

ScottyRo · 05-20-2005, 11:27 PM

I don't know about the verbiage either. Seems like it will help, but WhoDat's got a point. We'll just have to see. I don't think that false starts are any indication that the players will have trouble with it, though. That's a concentration matter not a learning ability matter.

The thing that I've liked most about the changes are the reads down to 2 from 4. I've really felt like one thing AB has needed to learn is when to run or dump off to the RB. Maybe it was just that he was slow at making his reads that he never got to thinking doing it. Now, it should be less of a problem. I think we'll even see his pass completion % go up as a result.

I big worry of mine is that I also heard the WR routes would be shorter. AB has got to learn to put some touch on the ball or we can be assured of the dropsies continuing.

Tobias-Reiper · 05-21-2005, 11:20 AM

..well, they try to imitate the Rams' offense, now is the Falcons' offense...

...I guess they'll hit on one that works for them, eventually...

WhoDat · 05-21-2005, 03:28 PM

Very good point Scotty. I saw some old footage on NFL Network a while back of Walsh coaching Montana. The thing Walsh said that he liked best about Montana was that he threw a very catchable ball. Soft to the WR's hands, even when he had to throw hard - on point at a catchable spot, etc. Brooks can't do any of those things. He also tends to hold the ball too long - so I'm not sure how this will work out. Not well, I think, if Brooks can't learn to get rid of the ball earlier and put it in a place where his WR can A) catch it and B) run with it. It's hard to be successful in the "west coast" when the ball is out late and 100 MPH at the WR's feet as he's about to be blown up by a LB or S.

BooBirdSaint · 05-23-2005, 04:20 PM

Get out your magic wand... "hokus pokus"

05-20-2005, 06:59 PM	#12
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Bottom line, it requires people to think. A more verbose play calling system at least has the benefit of telling everyone what he is supposed to do on that play. Our guys can't remember the snap count, you think 25 seconds after getting the play call they're going to be able to remember that Arizona used to me guard trap?? LOL Why am I getting a vision of one of those old silent movies where everyone ran around in circles and it looked like total mayhem??
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05-21-2005, 03:28 PM	#16
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Very good point Scotty. I saw some old footage on NFL Network a while back of Walsh coaching Montana. The thing Walsh said that he liked best about Montana was that he threw a very catchable ball. Soft to the WR's hands, even when he had to throw hard - on point at a catchable spot, etc. Brooks can't do any of those things. He also tends to hold the ball too long - so I'm not sure how this will work out. Not well, I think, if Brooks can't learn to get rid of the ball earlier and put it in a place where his WR can A) catch it and B) run with it. It's hard to be successful in the "west coast" when the ball is out late and 100 MPH at the WR's feet as he's about to be blown up by a LB or S.
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	no it doesnt mean deuce is getting the ball and headed right. it more then likely means deuce is lining up on the right side. which is probally why it was called stronger right slot before. that is just my guess

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05-20-2005, 07:17 PM	#13
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	what keystone cops whodat. i think one thing they were saying is that the plays were so long in words last year that it was causing a problem with getting the plays on the field. so im not sure if this helps or doesnt to be honest. but i like the idea of keeping things simple as far as the amount of looks by arron and what not. so i guess we will see. but i hope it works to our best

05-20-2005, 11:27 PM	#14
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	I don't know about the verbiage either. Seems like it will help, but WhoDat's got a point. We'll just have to see. I don't think that false starts are any indication that the players will have trouble with it, though. That's a concentration matter not a learning ability matter. The thing that I've liked most about the changes are the reads down to 2 from 4. I've really felt like one thing AB has needed to learn is when to run or dump off to the RB. Maybe it was just that he was slow at making his reads that he never got to thinking doing it. Now, it should be less of a problem. I think we'll even see his pass completion % go up as a result. I big worry of mine is that I also heard the WR routes would be shorter. AB has got to learn to put some touch on the ball or we can be assured of the dropsies continuing.

05-21-2005, 11:20 AM	#15
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	..well, they try to imitate the Rams' offense, now is the Falcons' offense... ...I guess they'll hit on one that works for them, eventually...

05-23-2005, 04:20 PM	#17
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