Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come'

09-29-2018, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Not even Von Miller, Kalil Mack or LT himself could get to the QB in the time our DB's lose their man.

We don't need no stinking pass rush. We're doing really cute things like disguising our coverages & being all scientifically progressive with our complexity...or something.

TheOak · 09-29-2018, 03:01 PM

Often it seems that we have disguised our coverage from ourselves. I might feel a little more comfortable if they could focus on stopping big plays before they focus on making big plays.

This might be why they are getting torn up, focusing on a strip rather than a tackle... and missing. TD!!!!

brees84 · 09-29-2018, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

This might be why they are getting torn up, focusing on a strip rather than a tackle... and missing. TD!!!!

What scares me is that Sean said this week they will focus on forcing fumbles. Every time they focused on "forcing fumbles" Saints players forgot how to tackle. That happened in Rob Ryan second year as DC. That offseason they changed tackling technique and results were disastrous.

That's Sean Payton. Only defensive coordinator with enough authority would improve this defense and bring some continuity. Imagine Payton bossing around Wade Philips or Fangio... It wouldn't be that easy. But we had our chance and missed on those guys.

dizzle88 · 09-29-2018, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by brees84

What scares me is that Sean said this week they will focus on forcing fumbles. Every time they focused on "forcing fumbles" Saints players forgot how to tackle. That happened in Rob Ryan second year as DC. That offseason they changed tackling technique and results were disastrous.

That's Sean Payton. Only defensive coordinator with enough authority would improve this defense and bring some continuity. Imagine Payton bossing around Wade Philips or Fangio... It wouldn't be that easy. But we had our chance and missed on those guys.

Payton likely didn't go for those guys because he couldn't boss them around, DA is his BFF.

AsylumGuido · 09-29-2018, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Payton likely didn't go for those guys because he couldn't boss them around, DA is his BFF.

Yup. Winning isn't important to Payton. Never has been. It's only always been about power. Do you think that Dennis and Sean cuggle at night?

Barry from MS · 09-29-2018, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. Winning isn't important to Payton. Never has been. It's only always been about power. Do you think that Dennis and Sean cuggle at night?

I think cuggling in Louisiana is illegal.

The Dude · 09-29-2018, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. Winning isn't important to Payton. Never has been. It's only always been about power. Do you think that Dennis and Sean cuggle at night?

To some extent I think it is about power. I don’t think he can help but try to control things. The DC does one or two things that Payton thinks is wrong and he tries to step in and control the whole situation even if it means turning things completely upside down.

dizzle88 · 09-29-2018, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. Winning isn't important to Payton. Never has been. It's only always been about power. Do you think that Dennis and Sean cuggle at night?

Dennis must be a great cuggler, it would explain why he's got a job that isn't an assistant position.

Audiotom · 09-29-2018, 11:48 PM

Stop taking those absolutely stupid group celebration pics with a turnover

It's expected

Barry from MS · 09-30-2018, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

Stop taking those absolutely stupid group celebration pics with a turnover

It's expected

Pretty sure they'd get confused on where to line up for their pretend photo, anyhow.

09-29-2018, 12:31 PM	#11
Threaded by Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by dizzle88 Not even Von Miller, Kalil Mack or LT himself could get to the QB in the time our DB's lose their man. We don't need no stinking pass rush. We're doing really cute things like disguising our coverages & being all scientifically progressive with our complexity...or something. woody, dizzle88 and The Dude like this.
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09-29-2018, 03:01 PM	#12
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come' Often it seems that we have disguised our coverage from ourselves. I might feel a little more comfortable if they could focus on stopping big plays before they focus on making big plays. This might be why they are getting torn up, focusing on a strip rather than a tackle... and missing. TD!!!! SaintFanInATLHELL and MarchingOn like this.

09-29-2018, 04:40 PM	#13
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come' Originally Posted by TheOak This might be why they are getting torn up, focusing on a strip rather than a tackle... and missing. TD!!!! What scares me is that Sean said this week they will focus on forcing fumbles. Every time they focused on "forcing fumbles" Saints players forgot how to tackle. That happened in Rob Ryan second year as DC. That offseason they changed tackling technique and results were disastrous. That's Sean Payton. Only defensive coordinator with enough authority would improve this defense and bring some continuity. Imagine Payton bossing around Wade Philips or Fangio... It wouldn't be that easy. But we had our chance and missed on those guys.
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09-29-2018, 06:03 PM	#14
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come' Originally Posted by brees84 What scares me is that Sean said this week they will focus on forcing fumbles. Every time they focused on "forcing fumbles" Saints players forgot how to tackle. That happened in Rob Ryan second year as DC. That offseason they changed tackling technique and results were disastrous. That's Sean Payton. Only defensive coordinator with enough authority would improve this defense and bring some continuity. Imagine Payton bossing around Wade Philips or Fangio... It wouldn't be that easy. But we had our chance and missed on those guys. Payton likely didn't go for those guys because he couldn't boss them around, DA is his BFF.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come' Originally Posted by dizzle88 Payton likely didn't go for those guys because he couldn't boss them around, DA is his BFF. Yup. Winning isn't important to Payton. Never has been. It's only always been about power. Do you think that Dennis and Sean cuggle at night?

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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come' Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. Winning isn't important to Payton. Never has been. It's only always been about power. Do you think that Dennis and Sean cuggle at night? I think cuggling in Louisiana is illegal.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come' Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. Winning isn't important to Payton. Never has been. It's only always been about power. Do you think that Dennis and Sean cuggle at night? To some extent I think it is about power. I don’t think he can help but try to control things. The DC does one or two things that Payton thinks is wrong and he tries to step in and control the whole situation even if it means turning things completely upside down. dizzle88 likes this.
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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come' Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. Winning isn't important to Payton. Never has been. It's only always been about power. Do you think that Dennis and Sean cuggle at night? Dennis must be a great cuggler, it would explain why he's got a job that isn't an assistant position. Barry from MS and woody like this.

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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints looking to rediscover big-play defense. 'It's going to come' Originally Posted by Audiotom Stop taking those absolutely stupid group celebration pics with a turnover It's expected Pretty sure they'd get confused on where to line up for their pretend photo, anyhow. dizzle88 likes this.

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