Relocation? A snippet from Charles Robinson

JKool · 05-21-2005, 11:34 AM

Cut from Charles Robinson's "The Truth about Drew"
Link: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

You could have seen the plan of Saints owner Tom Benson coming a mile away last week, when he cut off negotiations with state officials over his stadium lease until after the 2005 season. Many in the NFL expected that to ramp up the "Saints to Los Angeles" talk, and only a few days later, Benson's attorney said franchise relocation is something he would be interested in.

Benson has a clause in his Superdome lease that would allow him to bolt after the 2005 season, and it seems like a realistic option with the NFL attempting to get a franchise into Los Angeles by the end of the decade. Even now, relocation seems almost certain in the L.A. scenario, since the league isn't likely to upset its current divisional balance of 32 teams by adding another franchise.

Still, the Saints haven't applied for relocation, and it would be hard to imagine NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue supporting the move. As a city, New Orleans remains one of the most attractive locations for a franchise, even with the Superdome in its current dilapidated state. It's highly unlikely Benson would get the 24 votes required from the 32 NFL owners to approve relocation.

An interesting opinion, I thought.

Tobias-Reiper · 05-21-2005, 11:48 AM

..hmm.. the owners would approve the move of a franchise from a small TV market to the 2 biggest TV market in the nation.. it's all about revenue sharing and the TV deal..

CheramieIII · 05-21-2005, 12:59 PM

I wish this relocation talk would go away, it's weezin on my gig way to much and I truly don't think it will ever happen.

Robinson is right about one thing, Benson would NEVER get the 24 votes necessary for relocation to LA and why would the other teams vote for the move, they would have to contend for airtime with LA's new team and the second largest TV Market in the country.

It makes more sense that they would vote for a team with a much larger metro area, such as Indy or Minnesota. It's the same theory about Upper, Middle and Lower class people in America. The rich people only want rich and poor people, no middle class and they certainly don't want anymore rich people.

So it doesn't make sense to take a small market team and turn them into large market team in the second largest market in the country, now does it.

The Cherm has spoken!

Tobias-Reiper · 05-21-2005, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Robinson is right about one thing, Benson would NEVER get the 24 votes necessary for relocation to LA and why would the other teams vote for the move, they would have to contend for airtime with LA's new team and the second largest TV Market in the country.

they wouldn't have to contend for air time... teams have equal local air time. National air time has nothing to do with the size of a local market.
And, the TV money is shared equally among teams, so it benefits all owners to have a team in a big TV market.

Euphoria · 05-21-2005, 03:34 PM

yes sure it makes sense for team to be in a huge market... more money... blah... but people tend to forget that the Rams moved out of there... Raiders moved out of there... if it was so profitable why leave int he first place? Why would you approve a team to move out of a huge market and cut your profits as a league. UHm, its not profitable in LA... the city doesn't support NFL like they do the Lakers and Dodgers. Secondly the NFL wants a team in New Orleans they love it there and want to host Suber Bowls there every so often we get the most Super Bowls than any other City. We lose the Saints we lose the Super Bowl... wait, even with the Saints we lose Super Bowls, lol.

WhoDat · 05-21-2005, 03:44 PM

Wait a second? You mean that Tom Benson's claims that he is considering relocation aren't 100% truthful, accurate, and based on realistic scenarios???? I just don't believe it. Who would ever expect Tom Benson to be anything but open, honest, and fair? I mean, whay else would he possibly say that he might move??? I have no idea. Anybody know?

Tobias-Reiper · 05-21-2005, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

yes sure it makes sense for team to be in a huge market... more money... blah... but people tend to forget that the Rams moved out of there... Raiders moved out of there... if it was so profitable why leave int he first place? .

Do the names Al Davis and Georgia Frontiere ring a bell?

CheramieIII · 05-23-2005, 07:04 PM

Hey Tobias, you said it yourself, LOCAL airtime not National. What game do you think advertisers would want to spend their money during, The Saints/Falcons or the Raiders and the new team in LA.

ScottyRo · 05-23-2005, 10:48 PM

All the talk about LA being a bigger market and therefore more valuable is assuming that more people will watch the games in that area than those who currently watch in this region. I'm not sure that if you move a team with the history that this one has to LA that there is going to be a whole lot of interst. Maybe I'm wrong.

I tell you this and I'll be on the L.A. Saints' website gloating about my prediction after it happens...the Saints org will suddenly start going to the playoffs and contending a bit more after the move. Why, you ask? Because the NFL will want them to, that's why.

Tobias-Reiper · 05-24-2005, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Hey Tobias, you said it yourself, LOCAL airtime not National. What game do you think advertisers would want to spend their money during, The Saints/Falcons or the Raiders and the new team in LA.

...that's easy.. the Raiders and the new team in L.A.

As per www.census.gov: (rounded)
Population of N.O.: 500,000
Population of Atlanta: 500,000
Population of L.A. : 4,000,000

..and if you extent the area to the counties each city is in, it gets even more lopsided..

05-21-2005, 11:34 AM	#1
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Relocation? A snippet from Charles Robinson Cut from Charles Robinson's "The Truth about Drew" Link: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns You could have seen the plan of Saints owner Tom Benson coming a mile away last week, when he cut off negotiations with state officials over his stadium lease until after the 2005 season. Many in the NFL expected that to ramp up the "Saints to Los Angeles" talk, and only a few days later, Benson's attorney said franchise relocation is something he would be interested in. Benson has a clause in his Superdome lease that would allow him to bolt after the 2005 season, and it seems like a realistic option with the NFL attempting to get a franchise into Los Angeles by the end of the decade. Even now, relocation seems almost certain in the L.A. scenario, since the league isn't likely to upset its current divisional balance of 32 teams by adding another franchise. Still, the Saints haven't applied for relocation, and it would be hard to imagine NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue supporting the move. As a city, New Orleans remains one of the most attractive locations for a franchise, even with the Superdome in its current dilapidated state. It's highly unlikely Benson would get the 24 votes required from the 32 NFL owners to approve relocation. An interesting opinion, I thought.

05-21-2005, 11:48 AM	#2
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	RE: Relocation? A snippet from Charles Robinson ..hmm.. the owners would approve the move of a franchise from a small TV market to the 2 biggest TV market in the nation.. it's all about revenue sharing and the TV deal..

05-21-2005, 12:59 PM	#3
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	RE: Relocation? A snippet from Charles Robinson I wish this relocation talk would go away, it's weezin on my gig way to much and I truly don't think it will ever happen. Robinson is right about one thing, Benson would NEVER get the 24 votes necessary for relocation to LA and why would the other teams vote for the move, they would have to contend for airtime with LA's new team and the second largest TV Market in the country. It makes more sense that they would vote for a team with a much larger metro area, such as Indy or Minnesota. It's the same theory about Upper, Middle and Lower class people in America. The rich people only want rich and poor people, no middle class and they certainly don't want anymore rich people. So it doesn't make sense to take a small market team and turn them into large market team in the second largest market in the country, now does it. The Cherm has spoken!
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05-21-2005, 02:38 PM	#4
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: RE: Relocation? A snippet from Charles Robinson Originally Posted by CheramieIII Robinson is right about one thing, Benson would NEVER get the 24 votes necessary for relocation to LA and why would the other teams vote for the move, they would have to contend for airtime with LA's new team and the second largest TV Market in the country. they wouldn't have to contend for air time... teams have equal local air time. National air time has nothing to do with the size of a local market. And, the TV money is shared equally among teams, so it benefits all owners to have a team in a big TV market.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	RE: Re: RE: Relocation? A snippet from Charles Robinson yes sure it makes sense for team to be in a huge market... more money... blah... but people tend to forget that the Rams moved out of there... Raiders moved out of there... if it was so profitable why leave int he first place? Why would you approve a team to move out of a huge market and cut your profits as a league. UHm, its not profitable in LA... the city doesn't support NFL like they do the Lakers and Dodgers. Secondly the NFL wants a team in New Orleans they love it there and want to host Suber Bowls there every so often we get the most Super Bowls than any other City. We lose the Saints we lose the Super Bowl... wait, even with the Saints we lose Super Bowls, lol.

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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: RE: Re: RE: Relocation? A snippet from Charles Robinson Originally Posted by Euphoria yes sure it makes sense for team to be in a huge market... more money... blah... but people tend to forget that the Rams moved out of there... Raiders moved out of there... if it was so profitable why leave int he first place? . Do the names Al Davis and Georgia Frontiere ring a bell?

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CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Relocation? A snippet from Charles Robin Hey Tobias, you said it yourself, LOCAL airtime not National. What game do you think advertisers would want to spend their money during, The Saints/Falcons or the Raiders and the new team in LA.

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ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Relocation? A snippet from Charles Robin All the talk about LA being a bigger market and therefore more valuable is assuming that more people will watch the games in that area than those who currently watch in this region. I'm not sure that if you move a team with the history that this one has to LA that there is going to be a whole lot of interst. Maybe I'm wrong. I tell you this and I'll be on the L.A. Saints' website gloating about my prediction after it happens...the Saints org will suddenly start going to the playoffs and contending a bit more after the move. Why, you ask? Because the NFL will want them to, that's why.

05-24-2005, 08:12 PM	#10
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Relocation? A snippet from Charles R Originally Posted by CheramieIII Hey Tobias, you said it yourself, LOCAL airtime not National. What game do you think advertisers would want to spend their money during, The Saints/Falcons or the Raiders and the new team in LA. ...that's easy.. the Raiders and the new team in L.A. As per www.census.gov: (rounded) Population of N.O.: 500,000 Population of Atlanta: 500,000 Population of L.A. : 4,000,000 ..and if you extent the area to the counties each city is in, it gets even more lopsided..