Micharl Thomas fined $10,026
 

"Michael Thomas is losing a little bit of money this week.
The Saints wide receiver has been fined $10,026 by the NFL for unsportsmanlike conduct during Monday's game against the Washington Redskins.
Thomas responded to a report about the fine on Twitter by writing, "Child support," which appeared to be the continuation of an exchange of tweets between the wide recevier and Washington cornerback Josh No

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The exchange between Thomas and Kamara was hilarious.

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Missed it. What happened

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Cmon. Stop. You guys beat Josh Norman. Not Deion Sanders. Idk why they're talking so much trash.

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Okay children, grow up! Focus on doing your job and not trying to gain self satisfaction over others. This disappoints me from both of these players I had such a high respect for.

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Because it’s personal.

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And because Norman is a tw*t!

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When does it stop being personal? Don't any of these players believe in letting their play do the talking? They look like a bunch of babies.

"it's personal" is not a justification for handling your business like a 12 year old.

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It doesn’t stop being personal. They have issues. Whenever his name is brought up there will be a lack of respect shown. Social media is a huge part of the culture now. This back and forth between Kamara and Thomas about Norman hurts no one. Anytime these players show the full range of emotion on the spectrum or say something the board disagrees with everybody wants the players to just shut up and play. These guys aren’t robots, and way worse is being said to one another on that field than what we read on Twitter.

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Your line of excuses is the kind of attitude that breeds this "culture", as you love to call everything.

I don't care if they are professional athletes are common, everyday people. Your problem here is you automatically assume my opinion is biased to a certain group of people (what a surprise), in this case, football players.

My problem is these are grown men acting like babies. This thing you call "culture" is a societal disease, right now. I didn't need you to inform me that this is what people do on their twitter. This isn't news to me. I simply have a problem with people airing their problems all over social media, and using words that make them sound like little kids having a fight over who's cooler. And, yes, their actions ARE hurting somebody... Themselves. They are embarrassing themselves. And the fact that they clearly don't care about that says a lot about them.

At some point, these guys have to get over it. And if they can't get over it then, as I said before, let your play do the talking. When one guy one ups the other, the guy who lost the battle should be motivated to do better, and the guy who won the battle should be happy that he did his job and just leave it at that.

But if even THAT isn't enough, at least be able to communicate in a way that doesn't make you look like a little brat. These guys look like bratty little frat boys.

Listening to you, you'd think I'm criticizing these guys for not being perfect, rather than for what they are actually doing, which has been a pathetic display of immaturity.

Making excuses for their behavior just tells me that you are like them. If you're proud of that, congratulations.

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Or maybe you just didn’t grow up in a time period where it was commonplace to air out your grievances with someone over social media. This isn’t a constant attack of Josh Norman thing. He went at him as soon as the game was over. He made a comment after he was fined because that brought the situation back up. He isn’t @‘ing Josh Norman as we speak launching verbal attacks with no end in sight.

The societal ill is people being selective about when they want to mind their business. Guarantee Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara still get the contracts they deserve if they continue to produce the way they have. This won’t hurt them in the slightest. YOU think they’re embarrassing themselves. Others are entertained. You might need to take a cultural competency class. Society isn’t monlithic, nor should it be. People don’t have to adhere to what you believe is the proper code of conduct. You just come across sounding like a hater. And if you’re proud of that, bravo.

But you’re right. I’m not put off by a 23 and a 25 year old showing themselves to be slightly juvenile in nature. They should be afforded the right to grow at their own pace like the real, college frat boys do.

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Thomas is quickly becoming one of the biggest on the field **** talkers in Football. He is notorious for it. He can back it up so more power to him.
I read an article somewhere that said during camp his rookie year on the first day in pads he straight up raped the ball from one of our bigger named DB’s. When the defender hit the ground he taunted the hell out of him. They wouldn’t say who the DB was but I suspect it was KV.

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In other news, the Ravens just shutout their opponent and had 11 sacks. I hope we are putting the Redskins game waaaay behind us, a lot of preparation will be needed for this next one.

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11 sacks. Wow.

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Just in.... Breaking News

A personal internet debate just broke out over a personal internet debate.

Lighten up fellas. It's football, not a d*$k, you don't have to take it so hard.

Hard to believe that we are standing alone in 2nd place in the NFC and no one knows how to enjoy it.

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I know you fancy yourself to be the most "cultured" person in the universe, and you'd like to think you represent some new moral standard by which there is NO standard, and everyone should just be accepted the way they are.

For your information, I'm in my early thirties, and social media was born in my teen years. So, yes, I grew up with the same opportunities to act like an idiot on the internet, just like everyone else my age and younger, but I choose to be a bit more civil and measured in my responses to people. Does that mean I'm perfect and do everything right? Not even close. But there are lines that decent human beings should have the common sense to draw, and to stay behind.

My opinions are neither radical, nor are they outdated. It's called handling yourself with humility. People lack humility, nowadays. You portray me as some kind of bully for simply expecting that people in their mid 20's and early 30's (the people involved in this spat) should be able to have their arguments in a manner befitting of their age. I get that tempers flare, especially when you're young. So they had it out... terrific... Now move on. But instead, they persist and their insults mirror that of children.

By the way, you are sitting there defending Thomas and Kamara, as if I feel sorry for Norman. I am calling ALL of these guys childish. I don't care who started it, and I don't care who it's directed at. It's all ridiculous.

And as for people supposedly needing to mind their own business, this does not have to be my personal business. These guys chose to air out their little trash talking marathon where everyone could see it, so I am commenting on it. That's the thing about the internet, you can't hide, and they know that full well. This is why I don't use social media anymore (I had a Myspace account, once, and refuse to use all of the new crap). I keep my personal business private. It's one thing to give opinions as we all do in forums like this one, but if you're going to have an extended squabble with somebody, take it somewhere private. You can text, private message, email or (gasp) handle it in person behind closed doors.

I'm not suggesting they need my permission. They have all the right in the world to act as foolish as they want to, as long as they aren't breaking things in the process. But this is my opinion of them, same as you have opinions of people you don't know and will never meet. Make sense? And no, I'm not a hater. Do I have to hate someone to believe they are immature? Maybe you hate me because you disagree with me? That's the problem with people like yourself. You can't seem to grasp the idea that someone can hold a negative are dissenting opinion toward someone else without it being this awful act of hatred against humanity. That shows YOUR intolerance toward others.

Lastly, I don't believe that even frat boys should be allowed to grow up like frat boys. Fraternities are nothing but sanctioned idiot groups, as far as I'm concerned. There was a time, long before you or I were born, where boys became men before they were 15, because that was life. I don't think we need to go that far back in time, but there is no reason for 20 plus year olds to act a fool just because they think they can.

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Actually, it's not football. It's people who happen to play football, who don't know how to quit feuding after the game is played.

We're just giving opinions, here. The difference is we haven't been at it for weeks.

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'They' don't know how to quit huh? lol... Give it time :lol:

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Why do you say "'they'"? I'm sure there is some kind of sarcasm embedded in your comment, but your point is not exactly clear to me.

How much time do they need? It's already been quite some time, has it not?

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Yeah but that Titans offense is kind of tough to watch. Their O line is bottom tier (20th or so) statistically. Saints O line on the other hand ... top 3.

Ravens are due for a let down on Sunday.

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Not to mention Mariota is not Drew Brees. If they tried bringing anywhere near that much pressure against Brees he'd make them pay dearly.

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I have a couple of their guys on my fantasy teams, so I've kept up with them. They're a very hot and cold team so far. They've come out and dominated a couple of teams from start to finish, but they've also floundered their way through a couple and lost in ugly fashion. They're very much beatable.

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Mariota had 10 completions to those 11 sacks...

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I am not a fan of trash-talking. I do get in the head of rugby players after a good play telling them to get used to that and that I will be bringing it all day long. I like to make them nervous. But I try to do it with a little bit of class. No one has ever talked trash to me after a match because I was giving them flak during a game. If anything it Garners me a little respect.

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You're wasting your time. He isnt making excuses for them because of "culture." He's making excuses for their behavior because of the color of their skin. There is little accountability and he doesn't believe they should be held to any standard because of skin color. Rez hides behind his "culture" theme because he's racially bias and he believes white people owe black people some sort of daily pass for anything and everything because of slavery. He has a victim mentality and has an excuse for everything.

I blocked him a long time ago. Its unfortunate too. He's very intelligent and I enjoyed his insight into football. But his real personality and hidden agenda were too much for me to handle.

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It’s amazing how well that Iggy button works. I put Guido on ignore last week and the board is much more tolerable.

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Just make sure you pay up on that $20 you are going to lose. If someone would like to share this ...

:D

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I personally really like Rez's "real" personality. Besides, there are several agendas around here and some not quite so hidden.

Hmmm?

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I definitely grew up before the internet and social media existed so that probably does contribute to my attitude that taking any aspect of your professional interactions to social media in a negative fashion is childish and unprofessional. I personally don't like Thomas jarring with a competitor on social media and I expect better from him and the organization in handling these things. I have always had more respect for people who let their play do the talking, but I do understand that many players utilize some trash talking and mind games to complement their play style and I am fine with that on the field. Keep it there.

I personally give no weight to the argument about age or culture. Don't care. Act like a the professional you are being highly compensated to be. This is a "culture" that is perfectly fine for your personal life but has no place when it comes to business. It's why the league and teams have had to come up with a player conduct policy to penalize this kind of stupidity. You want your millions of dollars then curb your immaturity and represent the league and your organization with some professionalism.

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You're absolutely right about what this "culture" thing really is with him. His bias has always been evident. Culture is the word his type always hides behind, and we're supposed to respect that somehow. We can't question the fruits of this culture, or we are bigots.

I know what he really means when he says these things, and I just want him to finally admit it. It is probably a waste of time waiting on that, though.

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Most of us are upfront about who we are and what our beliefs and intentions are. Then there are some who try to pretend to be cool and above it all, but they are really just miserable, hateful people behind the facade. It's unfortunate.

You like his personality, even though he makes it clear how biased his views are. Good for you.

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I feel sorry for those miserable, hateful people. I am blessed that I have a wonderful life, a wonderful family and a wonderful group of friends. I can tell you that Rez has the same. I am blessed that Rez happens to be one of those friends.

His views are no more biased than any others. They just happen to be different than yours. We all have bias based views of the world. It all depends upon what culture impacted our development.

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I grew up in the 70s... We talked sh1t. Ali was talking sh1t on national television before I was born. This is not a 'modern' or 'internet' thing.

NFL players have been talking sh1t to each other across the line as long as there has been a line. Know what.. catchers do it to batters in baseball also.

I dont have any issue with what athletes do off the field on their own time.

As far as the implications of the word 'professional'.. Professional just indicates what someones primary occupation is. Prostitutes are professionals and there doesn't seem to be any expectation of conduct.

Many of us are professionals on the clock, and we still talk sh1t in these very public forums on our time off. Lets not be hypocrites. :bng:

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I'm glad you have a wonderful life. That's good. But your closing statement is completely untrue.

He is FAR more biased than most people. You see, there are differences of opinion, and then there are liars who will make up any pitiful excuse to get out from under the foot that is stomping on them in an argument. That's about as respectfully blunt as I can put it.

Your defense of him is nothing more than a cop out, and not a strong one, at that. I don't give two cents about cultural impacts. I prefer to deal in reality. Something called facts, or truth. Truth is absolute. The old line that says "there are no wrong opinions, just different one's", or any such variation of that, is a lie. If you have a room with ten people in it, and they all have a different opinion, it's possible that they are all wrong... But it is IMPOSSIBLE that they can all be right. The truth is what it is, regardless of your viewpoint.

I don't base my opinions on the person we're speaking about off of a viewpoint. I have the same view of him as everyone else in here. He consistently makes up excuses for black people, and has come straight out and said in the past that he believes white people owe reparations.

That's his viewpoint, alright. And it's a racist viewpoint. It's not even a debate.

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You're talking about trash talk ON the field. I don't care so much about that, though I still think it's petty. At least it's better than whining over their twitters like teenage girls.

As for Ali, I have no respect for the way he conducted himself. Great boxer. But a stuck up person. It's not simply a matter of if he's a professional or not, it's just common decency, or lack thereof.

And the prostitute example? Yeah they are paid to be gross. That's their profession. Of course they don't have an expectation of conduct. There are different professions with different standards and expectations. When you represent an organization, and you are paid millions of dollars, there is absolutely an expectation to conduct yourself with some kind of class and dignity. Someone else made mention of the conduct policy earlier. That policy is there for a reason. Are you going to argue that? Really?

Does anyone on this site feud for weeks with another poster? Do any of us have millions of "followers" reading what we say? Do we argue like children? Whenever a person displays bad behavior around here, that person gets called out. I can think of a few off the top of my head who haven't posted in a while because they've either been banned, or they got tired of us telling them off.

So, no, I don't think we're being hypocrites.

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I know some times what I say goes right over your head... but Ali talked trash on national television was in my reply.

Look! Old white people talking sh1t and the NFL promoting it.

OMG.. Old white professionals talking trash on national television.

Now your next reply will be another attempt at why its different. It isn't. Its all sh1t talking, and none of it is new.

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My defense, if you wish to call it that, is nothing but what I know of my friend. I am a devout Reagan Republican (based upon my cultural upbringing) and yet, also being brought up as the son of a 30+ year military member I have learned to see and respect other cultural viewpoints. Rez understands where I stand on certain issues and I understand his. We also have many that coexist. Rez needs no help from me. He has a journey in mind and I respect that journey. I don't think it requires your help at all. So, don't worry.

Oh, and ...

18-1 Baby!

:bng:

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I have no idea where anyone on these boards grew up or what environment they grew up in...

I know I went to Herod Elementary in Abbeville Louisiana in the 70s/80s.. There was a 10' chain link fence and the other side were the projects. There are people so poor they only have attitude and can only afford to talk sh1t... That is what they know. Some are lucky enough to find a way out but that doesn't mean they forgot where they came from.

Beyond that I have lived in at least five countries... I have had white Frenchmen CDG airport say things they didnt think I could understand (in French), and I have had Nigerians take me into their church and homes.

People everywhere are different. Not better. Not worse. Just different, and that's a good thing.

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Wow... I'm almost at a loss for words at how incredibly bad a case you just presented.

Let me start from the top: You claim that things you say often go over my head. That is incorrect. In fact, you often say things that make little sense and when I point out the inconsistencies, or just plain nonsense, of some of the things you say, you always claim that I just don't understand you. Your unwillingness, or inability, to clarify with anything that makes sense leads me to believe that you don't really know what you're trying to say.

Now that we've dealt with that issue, on to the next: You followed up your claim that what you say goes over my head, by telling me that you said Ali talked trash on national television in your previous reply... Yeah... Didn't I acknowledge that and tell you that I didn't respect the way he handled himself? How is it that you believe that went over my head? If you're going to insult my intelligence, at least bother to read what I said before you put your foot in your mouth.

And then what did you do? You showed a video of FAKE trash talking on a commercial and used that to make your point? Then you used video from a celebrity roast, of which trash talking is the whole point and is done in jest for entertainment? Really?... Really, man?

Let me put that aside for just a second and get back to the principle of the whole argument. I don't care how long trash talking has been around, and playful banter is a completely different type of trash talk. We're talking about people acting like teenagers on social media. It's petty.

The likes of Ali, I have no more respect for. That kind of nonsense is bush league, period.