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dizzle88 10-22-2018 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 819326)
What ever happened to Delvin Breaux?
Saints doctors misdiagnosed him, instead of showing him loyalty we just kicked him to the curb and he went back to the CFL.

rezburna 10-22-2018 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gumbeau (Post 819334)
If the Saints coaching staff is expecting a safety in Cover 2 to travel 21 yards against a WR that is only 15 yards from the goal line, comes off the line untouched and allowed outside then our coaching staff is not even remotely competent.

It is impossible for Bell to travel in a straight line to where Brown scored before Brown gets there unless Lattimore stands him up before releasing him or directs him inside.

So either Bell was lined up over the tight end in error, the coaches are idiots or Lattimore made an error.

Both safeties lined up over the slot receivers. On the opposite side of the field the corner carried his receiver to the five and gave up the flat.

Lattimore released Brown at full speed at the ten. Bell has already moved 5 yards towards that sideline but he is still 15 yards away from the pylon.

Bell would have to sprint from his position at the snap to have any hope of meeting Brown at the pylon.

Blaming it on a late recognition or reaction is stupid. Usain Bolt would have struggled to get there in time out the blocks.
It's his zone bro. It just is what it is. Sometimes you can exploit that area of the zone, but Bell should have already been drifting over that way to prevent it. There was no reason for him to be sitting. Nothing was threatening the hash marks. He did the same thing when the tight end scored...trying to watch the backfield.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2185735/Cover2.png

ChrisXVI 10-22-2018 01:35 PM
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Oh God yes! Please, please, please!

AsylumGuido 10-22-2018 02:16 PM
Re: CB Patrick Peterson ... Should We?
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 819352)
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...40781270999046

Oh God yes! Please, please, please!
NOW there is a chance.

|Mitch| 10-22-2018 02:35 PM
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I DEFINITELY would make the trade!!!


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lumm0x 10-22-2018 02:35 PM
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If there was a way we could do it without disrupting the current starting rotation on either side of the ball he would be an amazing addition for man coverage until he's up to speed on his responsibilities in our defense.

rezburna 10-22-2018 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 819362)
If there was a way we could do it without disrupting the current starting rotation on either side of the ball he would be an amazing addition for man coverage until he's up to speed on his responsibilities in our defense.
I don’t think we’d ever have to play anything other than man coverage with him and Lattimore out there.

|Mitch| 10-22-2018 02:39 PM
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Man press all game long and see the sack numbers skyrocket!


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brees84 10-22-2018 02:44 PM
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blackangold 10-22-2018 02:49 PM
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Oh snap!

Do it... the window is closing for Drew, make the deal!

dam1953 10-22-2018 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 819367)
Oh snap!

Do it... the window is closing for Drew, make the deal!
If there's a cap issue, Drew may want to write that check himself.

|Mitch| 10-22-2018 02:56 PM
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I wonder what it would take to get him?!


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neugey 10-22-2018 02:58 PM
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If the financials work and we are not badly mortgaging the future then we should probably pull the trigger. As much for ourselves but also to keep him away from KC or another contender.

TheOak 10-22-2018 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dam1953 (Post 819368)
If there's a cap issue, Drew may want to write that check himself.
That's the $1.99M dollar discussion isn't it... Because that is all of the cap we have. There is no way out of it and a signing bonus will not get us anywhere as that is prorated over the life of the contract so an 8M bonus for a 4 year contract hits us with 2M this year.

Crusader 10-22-2018 03:12 PM
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While I absolutely would love to se Peterson playing for the Saints I do believe he would be to expensive to acquire.

ChrisXVI 10-22-2018 03:34 PM
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!!!

ChrisXVI 10-22-2018 04:03 PM
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frydaddy 10-22-2018 04:05 PM
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The realist in me refuses to believe this trade will actually happen.

But damn if the optimist in me isn't already dreaming about the heights this team could reach with Peterson here.

saintsfan1976 10-22-2018 04:16 PM
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Trade Peat

Papa Voodoo 10-22-2018 04:17 PM
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Or if Crawley could play like himself from last year.

saintsfan1976 10-22-2018 04:18 PM
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That’s appx 3M

neugey 10-22-2018 04:24 PM
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https://i2.wp.com/www.velocitypartne...Git-R-Done.jpg

WhoDat!656 10-22-2018 04:31 PM
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hitta 10-22-2018 04:31 PM
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We would literally go in a moment from being average to below average on pass defense... to one of the the best pass defenses in the league. Imagine next year when Robinson is back.

AsylumGuido 10-22-2018 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 819371)
That's the $1.99M dollar discussion isn't it... Because that is all of the cap we have. There is no way out of it and a signing bonus will not get us anywhere as that is prorated over the life of the contract so an 8M bonus for a 4 year contract hits us with 2M this year.
We have almost $12M in roster bonus that can be immediately converted to signing bonus and free up around $8M in 2018 cap.

RockyMountainSaint 10-22-2018 04:46 PM
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https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ls...-to-be-traded/

The All-Pro cornerback has been lobbying to be traded. According to Peterson’s cousin, CBS Sports analyst Bryant McFadden, Peterson has even told the Cardinals where he wants to be traded: New Orleans.

44Champs 10-22-2018 04:52 PM
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Offer 2019 & 2020 2nd rounders.
I wonder if AZ would go for that.
Throw in Crawley for good measure [emoji23]

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spkb25 10-22-2018 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 819395)
Offer 2019 & 2020 2nd rounders.
I wonder if AZ would go for that.
Throw in Crawley for good measure [emoji23]

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If we sweeten the deal with The Crawley it will get done

ChrisXVI 10-22-2018 05:52 PM
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Man, I just don’t know how we can pull it off. The Cardinals would be INSANE to trade him for less than a 1st round pick which we can’t offer. We don’t have any players either worth anything in a trade that wouldn’t cripple our team (i.e. Michael Thomas, Cam Jordan, etc.)

Bradley Roby really wouldn’t be a bad consolation prize for far less trade compensation.

CharityMike 10-22-2018 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 819404)
Man, I just don’t know how we can pull it off. The Cardinals would be INSANE to trade him for less than a 1st round pick which we can’t offer. We don’t have any players either worth anything in a trade that wouldn’t cripple our team (i.e. Michael Thomas, Cam Jordan, etc.)

Bradley Roby really wouldn’t be a bad consolation prize for far less trade compensation.
There QB is not very good, trade Bridgewater to them, that way there young qb can learn something. And throw a pick in. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jnormand 10-22-2018 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 819404)
Man, I just don’t know how we can pull it off. The Cardinals would be INSANE to trade him for less than a 1st round pick which we can’t offer. We don’t have any players either worth anything in a trade that wouldn’t cripple our team (i.e. Michael Thomas, Cam Jordan, etc.)

Bradley Roby really wouldn’t be a bad consolation prize for far less trade compensation.
Agreed. I'm all for Peterson. But we still have to pay Thomas after this season. That's not counting contracts coming up for Drew and Cam in a couple years. Idk. It just doesn't seem like it's possible. Even if we did, we've already mortgaged our next draft already. What do we trade? Thomas, Kamara? No way. Let them have Kurt Coleman I guess. Lol.

rezburna 10-22-2018 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 819422)
Agreed. I'm all for Peterson. But we still have to pay Thomas after this season. That's not counting contracts coming up for Drew and Cam in a couple years. Idk. It just doesn't seem like it's possible. Even if we did, we've already mortgaged our next draft already. What do we trade? Thomas, Kamara? No way. Let them have Kurt Coleman I guess. Lol.
We don’t have to pay Thomas until the 2020 season. We’re good.

ChrisXVI 10-22-2018 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 819423)
We don’t have to pay Thomas until the 2020 season. We’re good.
I don’t think there’s any chance on God’s green Earth that Michael Thomas plays on the last year of his rookie deal. That dude’s ready to cash in.

spkb25 10-22-2018 07:40 PM
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Dude having seen that SB's are pretty damn hard to win. I mean I thought for sure in '11 we were going to get our second...no can do. Drew has one in his career..I just think if you have a shot at a SB and PP can go a long long way toward making that a reality, you do it

BTW go ask Dan Marino

frydaddy 10-22-2018 08:31 PM
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Cardinals GM and HC both saying there's no chance they trade Peterson. Of course Chucky said the same thing about Amari Cooper a couple weeks back, so who knows. I would be surprised if it actually happens though. There are a few other solid options out there for an affordable price though, if they're really serious about swinging a trade.

ChrisXVI 10-22-2018 09:01 PM
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Mark still recruiting...

SmashMouth 10-22-2018 09:07 PM
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What if Drew retires in a year after his contract ends, can we afford Peterson now?

CharityMike 10-22-2018 10:23 PM
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How many years did we have NO money and no cap but yet the magic bean counter figures it out. If it can be done, he will find a way!

TheOak 10-23-2018 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 819392)
We have almost $12M in roster bonus that can be immediately converted to signing bonus and free up around $8M in 2018 cap.
Thanks Guido, it’s been a while since I looked in detail at salary cap maneuvers.

Maybe there are actually two other gorillas in the tent?
- The Cardinals owner is on the record recently saying (fairly emphatically) he won’t trade Peterson. That could be nothing more than posturing to get a bigger offer, which would make the next item a little more of an issue.

- We have no 2019 1st, or 3rd pics... What are we willing to part with that would entice the Cardinals.

jnormand 10-23-2018 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 819447)
Does anyone understand wtf he's saying here? "What's really good?!!!" Wtf is he talking about?

Guess I'm not skilled in the art of translating social media.


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