Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats

rezburna · 10-24-2018, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

To me Eli is not shutdown but he doesn't need to be....he just need to be better than The Crawley

That’s the best way to describe him. He’s a solid CB2. He isn’t a lockdown corner, but he doesn’t need to be. The most telling stat to me is that he hasn’t given up any TD’s. Holding teams to field goals with our offense is all we need.

K Major · 10-24-2018, 07:14 AM

7.9 burn rate ... that's funny

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Didn't know that there was such a stat.

ScottF · 10-24-2018, 07:23 AM

a, Apple is better
b, his presence will make Crawley better
c, if b is false, Crawley needs to go

billyt81 · 10-24-2018, 08:15 AM

I still have hope for Crawley. He has shown flashes of brilliance. He has good hands and good ball skills. He has solid top end speed. I think Crawley could be the type of corner that of course will get beat sometimes but actually makes the QB pay if he makes a bad throw. Great trade though. Eli Apple was drafted 10th in the first round and he's 23. It is possible he could totally fix our secondary. He could end up being a stud corner. He'll definetely help. I can't wait to see him in black and gold. He reminds me a little of Mike McKenzie. In truth Apple has pro bowl potential.

K Major · 10-24-2018, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by billyt81

I still have hope for Crawley. He has shown flashes of brilliance. He has good hands and good ball skills. He has solid top end speed. I think Crawley could be the type of corner that of course will get beat sometimes but actually makes the QB pay if he makes a bad throw.

Ken has been beaten like a Pearl snare drum on those boundaries ... all season.

Once Apple gets acclimated to the "system", I expect to see more of PJ man the slot (he's been decent there) unless PRob miraculously returns this season or playoff time. IMO Ken doesn't have the the hips for slot & tracking the ball has been a low point for him.

Rez could probably provide more input at this position but I would expect Ken's snap count to be reduced.

foreverfan · 10-24-2018, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Ken has been beaten like a Pearl snare drum on those boundaries ... all season.

Once Apple gets acclimated to the "system", I expect to see more of PJ man the slot (he's been decent there) unless PRob miraculously returns this season or playoff time. IMO Ken doesn't have the the hips for slot & tracking the ball has been a low point for him.

Rez could probably provide more input at this position but I would expect Ken's snap count to be reduced.

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SmashMouth · 10-26-2018, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

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dizzle88 · 10-24-2018, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

I still have hope for Crawley. He has shown flashes of brilliance. He has good hands and good ball skills. He has solid top end speed. I think Crawley could be the type of corner that of course will get beat sometimes but actually makes the QB pay if he makes a bad throw. Great trade though. Eli Apple was drafted 10th in the first round and he's 23. It is possible he could totally fix our secondary. He could end up being a stud corner. He'll definetely help. I can't wait to see him in black and gold. He reminds me a little of Mike McKenzie. In truth Apple has pro bowl potential.

Agree with your point other than the highlighted bit, Crawley's hands make Roman harper look like Ed Reed. He dropped sooo many interceptions last year.

saintfan · 10-24-2018, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Agree with your point other than the highlighted bit, Crawley's hands make Roman harper look like Ed Reed. He dropped sooo many interceptions last year.

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billyt81 · 10-27-2018, 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Agree with your point other than the highlighted bit, Crawley's hands make Roman harper look like Ed Reed. He dropped sooo many interceptions last year.

Hmmmm. I don't recall that. I'm not saying you are wrong. He definetely tries to track deep balls when QBs throw his way on fade routes and he is pretty good at it.
I agree with the point that he doesn't have the quick hips to be elite. Maybe Eli Apple will be a stud and we'll never see Crawley again. But whenever he's on the field they gonna test him. So we'll find out one way or another. He reminds me a little of Dave Waymer. Average athleticism with good hands.

10-24-2018, 06:42 AM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,110	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats Originally Posted by spkb25 To me Eli is not shutdown but he doesn't need to be....he just need to be better than The Crawley That’s the best way to describe him. He’s a solid CB2. He isn’t a lockdown corner, but he doesn’t need to be. The most telling stat to me is that he hasn’t given up any TD’s. Holding teams to field goals with our offense is all we need. spkb25, Rsanders24, saintsfan1976 and 1 others like this.

10-24-2018, 07:14 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats 7.9 burn rate ... that's funny . Didn't know that there was such a stat. Rugby Saint II likes this.

10-24-2018, 07:23 AM	#3
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats a, Apple is better b, his presence will make Crawley better c, if b is false, Crawley needs to go foreverfan likes this.

10-24-2018, 08:15 AM	#4
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats I still have hope for Crawley. He has shown flashes of brilliance. He has good hands and good ball skills. He has solid top end speed. I think Crawley could be the type of corner that of course will get beat sometimes but actually makes the QB pay if he makes a bad throw. Great trade though. Eli Apple was drafted 10th in the first round and he's 23. It is possible he could totally fix our secondary. He could end up being a stud corner. He'll definetely help. I can't wait to see him in black and gold. He reminds me a little of Mike McKenzie. In truth Apple has pro bowl potential. foreverfan and MarchingOn like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats Originally Posted by billyt81 I still have hope for Crawley. He has shown flashes of brilliance. He has good hands and good ball skills. He has solid top end speed. I think Crawley could be the type of corner that of course will get beat sometimes but actually makes the QB pay if he makes a bad throw. Ken has been beaten like a Pearl snare drum on those boundaries ... all season. Once Apple gets acclimated to the "system", I expect to see more of PJ man the slot (he's been decent there) unless PRob miraculously returns this season or playoff time. IMO Ken doesn't have the the hips for slot & tracking the ball has been a low point for him. Rez could probably provide more input at this position but I would expect Ken's snap count to be reduced. foreverfan and ChrisXVI like this.

10-24-2018, 12:07 PM	#6
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats Originally Posted by K Major Ken has been beaten like a Pearl snare drum on those boundaries ... all season. Once Apple gets acclimated to the "system", I expect to see more of PJ man the slot (he's been decent there) unless PRob miraculously returns this season or playoff time. IMO Ken doesn't have the the hips for slot & tracking the ball has been a low point for him. Rez could probably provide more input at this position but I would expect Ken's snap count to be reduced. 18-1 Superbowl AsylumGuido likes this.

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10-24-2018, 01:01 PM	#8
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats Originally Posted by billyt81 I still have hope for Crawley. He has shown flashes of brilliance. He has good hands and good ball skills. He has solid top end speed. I think Crawley could be the type of corner that of course will get beat sometimes but actually makes the QB pay if he makes a bad throw. Great trade though. Eli Apple was drafted 10th in the first round and he's 23. It is possible he could totally fix our secondary. He could end up being a stud corner. He'll definetely help. I can't wait to see him in black and gold. He reminds me a little of Mike McKenzie. In truth Apple has pro bowl potential. Agree with your point other than the highlighted bit, Crawley's hands make Roman harper look like Ed Reed. He dropped sooo many interceptions last year.

10-27-2018, 03:25 AM	#10
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Crawley vs Apple 2018 Stats Originally Posted by dizzle88 Agree with your point other than the highlighted bit, Crawley's hands make Roman harper look like Ed Reed. He dropped sooo many interceptions last year. Hmmmm. I don't recall that. I'm not saying you are wrong. He definetely tries to track deep balls when QBs throw his way on fade routes and he is pretty good at it. I agree with the point that he doesn't have the quick hips to be elite. Maybe Eli Apple will be a stud and we'll never see Crawley again. But whenever he's on the field they gonna test him. So we'll find out one way or another. He reminds me a little of Dave Waymer. Average athleticism with good hands.

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