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SmashMouth 11-29-2018 10:26 PM

Observations from the Saints first loss in 11 games
 
We had an off day. Yeah the refs were bad, but they were bad for both sides.

History repeats itself, it appears, with the CowGirls.

The positive... 17-2 , WhoDats!

SmashMouth 11-29-2018 10:27 PM

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Late turnover sinks the Saints in a 13-10 loss, as Cowboys snap 10-game win streak

ChrisXVI 11-29-2018 10:32 PM

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Where do we even start discussing this one??

I’m only going to talk about the positive and give big praise to our defensive front seven. The LB corp of Davis-Anzalone-Klein has really turned into something phenomenal.

neugey 11-29-2018 10:33 PM

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GG to the Cowboys. Was surprised at how good they covered. Saints are going to need to adjust their offense when we aren't playing defenses like the Eagles, Redskins and Falcons that leave wide open spaces. The good news is that now we know where we are vulnerable on offense and have 10 days to correct it.

My cat is acting guilty and I'm thinking he did something to jinx our Saints but no idea what that would be.

westbankdaze 11-29-2018 10:45 PM

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Save your all’s breath. Go to Saintsreport and read the 09 after game. Might as well since everything, and I mean everything about this game was identical to 09.

Rsanders24 11-29-2018 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 826831)
GG to the Cowboys. Was surprised at how good they covered. Saints are going to need to adjust their offense when we aren't playing defenses like the Eagles, Redskins and Falcons that leave wide open spaces. The good news is that now we know where we are vulnerable on offense and have 10 days to correct it.

My cat is acting guilty and I'm thinking he did something to jinx our Saints but no idea what that would be.

We have to address the TE position...and they were so worried about the edge rushers that the interior is really what failed us.

ChrisXVI 11-29-2018 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 826851)
We have to address the TE position...and they were so worried about the edge rushers that the interior is really what failed us.

Agreed about TE. Where was Ben Watson and Josh Hill?

xan 11-29-2018 10:54 PM

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Egg laid. Learn from it and move on.

Crusader 11-29-2018 10:57 PM

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Good pressure on Dak. A team that gets 7 sacks should win the game.

Bottled up Zeke for most of the day. 3.3yd/rush is pedestrian for him.

Shoddy tackling when Dak ran. He should have been stopped for a short gain every rush.

Coverage wasn't where it should have considering we had good pressure today.


O-line had their worst game in a very long time. A lot of pressure given up.

Brees just looked off the whole game.

Seems like we had a lot of drops today from guys who usually catches the ball well.

#54 in Dallas had multiple plays where he led with the crown. He should have been ejected from the game.

Play calling on O felt predictable. And the gamble to go for it on 4th in the first came back to haunt us.

Pete 11-29-2018 10:57 PM

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That type of loss should give them the needed spark to finish the damn thing.

Makes me sick to hear Aikman gush in the booth over X-team as if he's getting a massage under the table by BJ.. I mean JB.
I had no choice but to listen to that BS and it definately didn't help matters none!You can frikkin hear the elation in his voice and I personally don't think it's right for him to be allowed to call their games.
I'm no longer home to tune in 870 to listen to Zach and Duece..Phone app goes to **** once the game starts and isn't broadcasted.

-Offensive line got handled
-Didn't seem Drew was making as many pre-snap reads and adjusting as usual..
-Recievers obviously didn't show up for their hand yoga classes this week.

I knew there was a chance for a lost but not like that.

94 was almost a HERO.

Hoping we go on a all out demolition mission of who ever stands in the way all the way to the destination...

That one stung with all the chances we had to capitalize but couldn't for all the reasons that reared their ugly f**€kin head.

WHO-DAT!!!:mad:

Rsanders24 11-29-2018 10:59 PM

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Front 7 left it all on the field today...very disappointed in the rest of the team...

Saintsfan4ever 11-29-2018 11:10 PM

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Our defense played great. I can't fault the defense at all. They held Dak's crew to 13 pts in their house. You can't ask for much better than that.
The Saints offense had no answer to the pressure the Dallas D was bringing. Brees was rushed and couldn't get a deep pass completed, screens were being defended well, and the ground game wasn't moving the sticks. Dallas defense beat us. period.

blackangold 11-29-2018 11:12 PM

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2 weeks in a row our offense didn’t play well.
31 points against ATL is good, but even in that game Drew seemed off. It just feels like he isn’t playing with confidence.

Utah_Saint 11-29-2018 11:48 PM

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Looked to me like...

Saints offense couldn't match the intensity for 60 minutes. They got punched in the m***** f***** mouth. They weren't doing what they were regularly doin and started to get a little distressed. Cowboys had em where they wanted them. Then the Saints O got their A**es choked out.

Rueben Mayes 11-29-2018 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Saintsfan4ever (Post 826861)
Our defense played great. I can't fault the defense at all. They held Dak's crew to 13 pts in their house. You can't ask for much better than that.
The Saints offense had no answer to the pressure the Dallas D was bringing. Brees was rushed and couldn't get a deep pass completed, screens were being defended well, and the ground game wasn't moving the sticks. Dallas defense beat us. period.

I think Eli Apple was victimized a few times tonight but I liked a lot of the other things that the Saints D excelled in tonight... 'cept maybe the aforementioned poor tackling on some running plays.

Rueben Mayes 11-30-2018 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 826852)
Agreed about TE. Where was Ben Watson and Josh Hill?

Benjamin Watson zer0 targets? huh? what gives SP?

leilung 11-30-2018 05:30 AM

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Drew was DEFINTELY off. Missed several receivers who had windows but the throws were just not there. There was pressure on the pocket, so I really don't get why SP didn't call a few roll out passes to keep them checked.

Oh well, I always said this team was a 13-3 season. Getting ready for one more stinker before going on our run for Lombardi.

TheOak 11-30-2018 06:03 AM

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For sanity's sake, chalk this one up to 'Any Given Thursday':)

Offense was flat, never had a rhythm, and when you play 3 games in 12 days that's bound to happen. The gas tank cant stay full all the time. Run defense showed up and played well, pass defense has been our weakness since week 1, no shocker.

We didnt all of a sudden get bad, we are still the same exact team we were yesterday at 7PM. Dallas showed up ready and we didn't.

Sh1t happens. We have the Bucs to get ready for in 9 days. :bng:

neugey 11-30-2018 06:17 AM

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Marinelli or whoever was calling the defensive plays had the game of their life. They blitzed at the right times when we weren't expecting it. They chose to be physical with us at all levels and had some penalties because of it but overall it worked. They rarely gave Drew a clean pocket and they were excellent in taking away the flats. Sean and the guys will need to get in the film room and figure out some counters to this style of defense.

jeanpierre 11-30-2018 06:32 AM

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jeanpierre 11-30-2018 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rueben Mayes (Post 826868)
Benjamin Watson zer0 targets? huh? what gives SP?

Leighton Vander Esch. If Kamara couldn't shake him, what chance do you think a 38 year old Tight End and a reserve Tight End have???

Besides the tight ends were kept in to help with pass protection against their pass rush because Payton was determined to pass on them...

Kills me when one my draft man-crushes comes back to burn my team...

Euphoria 11-30-2018 07:16 AM

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Yes the only thing that disappointed me was:

The drops
Apple penalties
allowing dallas to blitz up the middle. Thats seems to be the blueprint to beating us now.

We may have to move Brees a few steps left or right

K Major 11-30-2018 07:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 826874)
They chose to be physical with us at all levels and had some penalties because of it but overall it worked. They rarely gave

^^ Agreed ^^

I just hope Ryan Ramz is ok.

K Major 11-30-2018 07:40 AM

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I thought the officiating was bad (again) on both sides.

How do you miss all of these targeting/helmet to helmet collisions (Arnold & Kamara) when the zebras are 10 feet away from the play?

Again, not using the refs as an excuse but just an observation.

yungbreesus 11-30-2018 07:46 AM

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hey yall. first time poster, long time saints fan.

if there's one thing you can set your watch to it's that drew and sean will always have one stinker of a game each season. it just happens. if they just have one in them this season, we should consider ourselves blessed.

what made this one unique is that this was probably the worst game for every player on our offense sans kirkwood. credit to dallas, our o-line was bad mostly because their front 7 is really good. but skill players had just as bad of a night as brees. i'm hopeful that this will be a big time wake up call for the entire team.

Terrible officiating both ways. i feel like that just adds to the weirdness that is these thursday games. away teams are 3-11 in thursday games this year. i get that it's more money and more exposure but its sad that the league won't take into account the input from the people who actually have to play and coach these games. because they seem to really hate them.

strap in. it's gonna be a long week. ignoring sports media might be a good move. there are few things they like more than a cowboys win streak. its about to get really obnoxious.

the good news is we're back to being doubted. that seems to drive this team more than being on top. sean and drew have now faced another top defense, and there are even more lessons to be learned from this one.

K Major 11-30-2018 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by yungbreesus (Post 826891)
hey yall. first time poster, long time saints fan.

Welcome Yungbreesus :bng:

papz 11-30-2018 07:59 AM

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Inconsequential game for us. I was very happy with our pass rush and disappointed to see Drew's happy feet make an extended appearance this game.

Next game.

darksoul35 11-30-2018 08:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 826885)
Yes the only thing that disappointed me was:

The drops
Apple penalties
allowing dallas to blitz up the middle. Thats seems to be the blueprint to beating us now.

We may have to move Brees a few steps left or right

There where way too many drops. To me that set the tone. Gave Dallas confidence and they hit the bully in the mouth for the rest of the game.

The Dude 11-30-2018 08:13 AM

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I think this may turn out to be a good thing in the long run. Takes the cheese off the table.

darksoul35 11-30-2018 08:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yungbreesus (Post 826891)
hey yall. first time poster, long time saints fan.

if there's one thing you can set your watch to it's that drew and sean will always have one stinker of a game each season. it just happens. if they just have one in them this season, we should consider ourselves blessed.

what made this one unique is that this was probably the worst game for every player on our offense sans kirkwood. credit to dallas, our o-line was bad mostly because their front 7 is really good. but skill players had just as bad of a night as brees. i'm hopeful that this will be a big time wake up call for the entire team.

Terrible officiating both ways. i feel like that just adds to the weirdness that is these thursday games. away teams are 3-11 in thursday games this year. i get that it's more money and more exposure but its sad that the league won't take into account the input from the people who actually have to play and coach these games. because they seem to really hate them.

strap in. it's gonna be a long week. ignoring sports media might be a good move. there are few things they like more than a cowboys win streak. its about to get really obnoxious.

the good news is we're back to being doubted. that seems to drive this team more than being on top. sean and drew have now faced another top defense, and there are even more lessons to be learned from this one.

Hell of a first post. I agree with everything you said.

Cruize 11-30-2018 08:15 AM

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- Out coached.
- Out played.
- Out hustled.
- Straight punched in the mouth.
- Cowboys peaking.
- Saints flat.
- In the end, hopefully a good thing.

turbo_dog 11-30-2018 08:39 AM

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NFL is all fake and scripted.

turbo_dog 11-30-2018 08:49 AM

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Ok, phew! Feels good to get that out!

The good news is that the Saints offense played the worst game of the season, but the defense kept us in it, and in the end, only lost by 3 points.

Refs were terrible on both sides, no excuse for the loss, but it is hard to watch bad calls that stop the flow of the game and no calls that risk player safety.

They showed some footage of the Saints bench before the game, and even then it looked like the energy was very low. I was immediately worried when I saw that. Not sure what that was all about. Maybe back to back Thursday night games?

Our front 7 played lights out!

What was with all the drops? Drew wasn't his usual, pinpoint accurate self, but plenty of balls hit receivers in the hands and just bounced out. Reminded me of A. Brooks at times.

I just hope we don't have any major injuries. The team should bounce back from this and use it as motivation.

17-2 Superbowl Champions

:bng::bng::bng:

Euphoria 11-30-2018 08:54 AM

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yeah its was good to see we still had a fighting chance to win but then a blitz up the middle and a bad pass from Brees... ugh.

ChrisXVI 11-30-2018 08:55 AM

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I guess the good news is now they have 10 days to get refreshed and stew in this loss to come out with something to prove against Tampa.

dam1953 11-30-2018 09:00 AM

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Before the game there was a piece about Peyton showing the team a 10 minute video on how great Brees is. Not sure that was a bright Idea.

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/video/1384290883609

During the game last night it sure looked like the O-line may have taken exception and reminded Peyton that Brees is only as good as they let him be....and that was pretty sad.

So, four games left with three against pretty stout defenses. Somebody needs to come up with a better game plan because Pittsburgh and Carolina are going to wear the Dallas - Saints game video out.

dam1953 11-30-2018 09:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 826885)
Yes the only thing that disappointed me was:

The drops
Apple penalties
allowing dallas to blitz up the middle. Thats seems to be the blueprint to beating us now.

We may have to move Brees a few steps left or right

Was telling my wife the same thing last night.....during the game. With all the middle pressure, they never moved the pocket. Didn't seem like the Saints made a single adjustment on offense. Just kept running the same offense....getting the same results.

darksoul35 11-30-2018 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dam1953 (Post 826911)
Was telling my wife the same thing last night.....during the game. With all the middle pressure, they never moved the pocket. Didn't seem like the Saints made a single adjustment on offense. Just kept running the same offense....getting the same results.

Ram was getting beat too though and without one of the best left tackles in the game its hard. I agree though they should've tried something different because the middle of our line sucked more than the tackles. I think it was just a off night. We need a mini bye week.

ChrisXVI 11-30-2018 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dam1953 (Post 826911)
Was telling my wife the same thing last night.....during the game. With all the middle pressure, they never moved the pocket. Didn't seem like the Saints made a single adjustment on offense. Just kept running the same offense....getting the same results.

That’s why I don’t understand why we didn’t do anything with Taysom Hill. We didn’t do anything to catch them off guard or keep them guessing.

K Major 11-30-2018 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Saintsfan4ever (Post 826861)
Our defense played great. I can't fault the defense at all. They held Dak's crew to 13 pts in their house. You can't ask for much better than that.

+1. I'll piggy back and put that into perspective. Saints defense has recorded 13 sacks in 2 games. They were able to hold Zeke in check (3.3 ypc) most of the game. The front 7 continues to be strength for this team & a reason why we'll go far in January.

Offensively, we simply had an off night. It happens. Dallas had to play their best football on both sides and still almost lost. We're fine.

On to Tampa :bng:.


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