How soon we forget the years when the offense had to score like a pinball machine because the defense couldn't protect a lead.

Through the years, however, when Brees has had bad performances nobody has been allowed to say that he was bad. There's always been some weird, abstract analysis given to try to prove that he was somehow managing the game. Like as if he planned it that way.

Never made any sense to me.

You could probably count on both hands the number of games the Saints have lost because of Brees.

I can definitely count more than that, that he cost the team. Not that any one player single handedly loses a game, but you get the point.

I'd like to actually see you count more games than that (counted on two hands) that Brees has cost the team a loss. Sure, he's thrown a pick here or there at a crucial time, but it usually comes after a game of mistakes by defense, dropped catches or stupid offensive penalties has placed him in a situation where he has to force the issue. He has won us FAR more games single-handedly when those same failures by the rest of the team were a factor.

The worst games attributed to Brees usually involved defenders constantly being in his face (see Dallas game this season). The greatest players of all time (which includes Brees) can have bad games, but the expectations get set so high that blame is placed upon them when some things are out of their control.

If you weren't quite so busy being an egotistical smart mouth, you would have read the very next sentence of my post, and might have had just a shred of perspective to be able to respond to me appropriately.

I said "not that any one player single handedly loses a game". That means games where he just made a ton of mistakes that put the team at a massive disadvantage. It's well understood by myself, and anyone else who knows football, that there are other factors that go into it, and it's never quite as simple as just saying it's all one guy's fault.

However, when you are one of the highest paid players in the sport, for the very reason that you are supposed to be smarter than other QB's, and be able to minimize mistakes when other things are going wrong, you can't just go out and lay an egg.

But the thing that always bothered me, again, is not about the fact that he had bad games. Those happen sometimes. It's the fact that you can never criticize him around here, without people like you coming to his rescue to slobber on him and elevate him to some god-like status. It's pathetic.

You same people who defend Brees to the death have NO PROBLEM, whatsoever, blaming other players, and saying how bad a QB sucks if he isn't Drew Brees. Other QB's don't get the excuse of "well, if they blocked better" or "maybe the routes were bad".

You can't just take a simple point for what it is. You have to go straight into comparing Brees to other QB's, to remind me that he's better than them. I DID NOT say that he was not better than most. That's not the point, AT ALL. Can I make that more clear? All I'm saying is be willing to say when he has a bad game. Some of you refuse to do that, and it's intellectually dishonest, as well as just plain annoying.

I haven't forgotten, my friend. Winning a game while needing to score 40 points is not the same as winning a game, scoring 12.

When you put up 40, you credit the offense. When you only score 12, you credit the defense if you win. It's not any more complicated than that.

If a team scores 40 points and loses, offense isn't the problem.

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Did you read what I said? If the offense scores 40, you credit them. If they score 12 and win, you credit the defense. That's what I said. In what way did I insinuate that scoring 40 and losing is the offense's fault?

It seems like you don't want to see a simple point for what it is.