PFF grades Marcus Davenport as NFL's best rookie pass rusher

jeanpierre · 01-05-2019, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Maybe the Saints knew what they were doing after all?

Who's tracking the experts' comments?

Never said Davenport wasn't a solid defensive end, just questioned the foolishness of spending two first round picks on a player when the same production could be had for far less...

Let the statistic illustrate my point...

2018 Rookie Edge Defender Comparison:

Player Name - Gm - GS - Tk - TkL - Sk - PD- FF - FR - DTD - PFF Grade - Rd/Pick Taken

M. Davenport 13.0 - 0 - 11.0 - 6.0 - 4.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 67.7 - 1/14 (Two (2) First Round Picks)

S. Hubbard 16.0 - 0 - 34.0 - 7.0 - 6.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 65.9 - 3/77 (Third Round, 77th Pick)

And there was what we already had:

Alex Okafor 16.0 - 16 - 36 - 5.0 - 4.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 1.0 - 0 - 71.9 - Free Agent

For the record, want nothing but success for the Saints on this selection - my argument is the price was far more than the value and the statistic reinforce my argument...

blackangold · 01-05-2019, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Never said Davenport wasn't a solid defensive end, just questioned the foolishness of spending two first round picks on a player when the same production could be had for far less...

Let the statistic illustrate my point...

2018 Rookie Edge Defender Comparison:

Player Name - Gm - GS - Tk - TkL - Sk - PD- FF - FR - DTD - PFF Grade - Rd/Pick Taken

M. Davenport 13.0 - 0 - 11.0 - 6.0 - 4.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 67.7 - 1/14 (Two (2) First Round Picks)

S. Hubbard 16.0 - 0 - 34.0 - 7.0 - 6.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 65.9 - 3/77 (Third Round, 77th Pick)

And there was what we already had:

Alex Okafor 16.0 - 16 - 36 - 5.0 - 4.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 1.0 - 0 - 71.9 - Free Agent

For the record, want nothing but success for the Saints on this selection - my argument is the price was far more than the value and the statistic reinforce my argument...

Maybe it was more than we should have given... but the comparison you have here isn’t valid unless you factor in snap counts. Even when Davenport was healthy he would play a very limited snap count. If he stays healthy, he should be the starter next year and hopefully logs north of 90% of the snaps.

Been very impressed with Davenport, even in a game where we weren’t play D last week when he was on the field he was the only one getting pressure (ended up knocking their QB out of the game).

AsylumGuido · 01-05-2019, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Never said Davenport wasn't a solid defensive end, just questioned the foolishness of spending two first round picks on a player when the same production could be had for far less...

Let the statistic illustrate my point...

2018 Rookie Edge Defender Comparison:

Player Name - Gm - GS - Tk - TkL - Sk - PD- FF - FR - DTD - PFF Grade - Rd/Pick Taken

M. Davenport 13.0 - 0 - 11.0 - 6.0 - 4.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 67.7 - 1/14 (Two (2) First Round Picks)

S. Hubbard 16.0 - 0 - 34.0 - 7.0 - 6.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 65.9 - 3/77 (Third Round, 77th Pick)

And there was what we already had:

Alex Okafor 16.0 - 16 - 36 - 5.0 - 4.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 1.0 - 0 - 71.9 - Free Agent

For the record, want nothing but success for the Saints on this selection - my argument is the price was far more than the value and the statistic reinforce my argument...

Right or wrong, water under the bridge.

01-05-2019, 10:15 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: PFF grades Marcus Davenport as NFL's best rookie pass rusher Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Maybe the Saints knew what they were doing after all? Who's tracking the experts' comments? Never said Davenport wasn't a solid defensive end, just questioned the foolishness of spending two first round picks on a player when the same production could be had for far less... Let the statistic illustrate my point... 2018 Rookie Edge Defender Comparison: Player Name - Gm - GS - Tk - TkL - Sk - PD- FF - FR - DTD - PFF Grade - Rd/Pick Taken M. Davenport 13.0 - 0 - 11.0 - 6.0 - 4.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 67.7 - 1/14 (Two (2) First Round Picks) S. Hubbard 16.0 - 0 - 34.0 - 7.0 - 6.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 65.9 - 3/77 (Third Round, 77th Pick) And there was what we already had: Alex Okafor 16.0 - 16 - 36 - 5.0 - 4.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 1.0 - 0 - 71.9 - Free Agent For the record, want nothing but success for the Saints on this selection - my argument is the price was far more than the value and the statistic reinforce my argument...
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01-05-2019, 10:35 AM	#2
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: PFF grades Marcus Davenport as NFL's best rookie pass rusher Originally Posted by jeanpierre Never said Davenport wasn't a solid defensive end, just questioned the foolishness of spending two first round picks on a player when the same production could be had for far less... Let the statistic illustrate my point... 2018 Rookie Edge Defender Comparison: Player Name - Gm - GS - Tk - TkL - Sk - PD- FF - FR - DTD - PFF Grade - Rd/Pick Taken M. Davenport 13.0 - 0 - 11.0 - 6.0 - 4.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 67.7 - 1/14 (Two (2) First Round Picks) S. Hubbard 16.0 - 0 - 34.0 - 7.0 - 6.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 65.9 - 3/77 (Third Round, 77th Pick) And there was what we already had: Alex Okafor 16.0 - 16 - 36 - 5.0 - 4.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 1.0 - 0 - 71.9 - Free Agent For the record, want nothing but success for the Saints on this selection - my argument is the price was far more than the value and the statistic reinforce my argument... Maybe it was more than we should have given... but the comparison you have here isn’t valid unless you factor in snap counts. Even when Davenport was healthy he would play a very limited snap count. If he stays healthy, he should be the starter next year and hopefully logs north of 90% of the snaps. Been very impressed with Davenport, even in a game where we weren’t play D last week when he was on the field he was the only one getting pressure (ended up knocking their QB out of the game). jnormand, saintsfan1976, AsylumGuido and 2 others like this.

01-05-2019, 04:23 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,953	Re: PFF grades Marcus Davenport as NFL's best rookie pass rusher Originally Posted by jeanpierre Never said Davenport wasn't a solid defensive end, just questioned the foolishness of spending two first round picks on a player when the same production could be had for far less... Let the statistic illustrate my point... 2018 Rookie Edge Defender Comparison: Player Name - Gm - GS - Tk - TkL - Sk - PD- FF - FR - DTD - PFF Grade - Rd/Pick Taken M. Davenport 13.0 - 0 - 11.0 - 6.0 - 4.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 67.7 - 1/14 (Two (2) First Round Picks) S. Hubbard 16.0 - 0 - 34.0 - 7.0 - 6.0 - 2.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 65.9 - 3/77 (Third Round, 77th Pick) And there was what we already had: Alex Okafor 16.0 - 16 - 36 - 5.0 - 4.0 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 1.0 - 0 - 71.9 - Free Agent For the record, want nothing but success for the Saints on this selection - my argument is the price was far more than the value and the statistic reinforce my argument... Right or wrong, water under the bridge. K Major likes this.

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