If you haven’t noticed

gulfgambler · 01-07-2019, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

Hi Danno. been too long since I've been here. Good to see your posting.

This didnt take long, and nails it.
Running QB's are great, if you're playing Vanderbilt, in the Energizer Battery Bowl. They'll give you some flash and dash, and make some highlights, in game 3, or the Wild Card Round. They were big heroes in high school or college, but it doesnt play for the duration in the NFL. Case in point. I think you've heard the last of Cam Newton already.

The QB position in the NFL should be a hub for all points on the field, and not just where your feet are. If you do not do this, you may win some games with your feet, but defenses will simply spy you out, eventually, or you'll take a beating and lose a step. You cannot win in the NFL at QB, if you cant read defense, and strike across the field. None of these wishbone guys are going to win the SB.

Where the flock you been SM

44Champs · 01-06-2019, 11:17 AM

That's how you get your QB hurt. They run cuz they have to. When you throw w 76% accuracy and are sacked only 20 times all year long, you don't have to run. That's what Ingram and Kamara are for.

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RailBoss · 01-06-2019, 01:25 PM

Running QB's = Not For Long

The Dude · 01-06-2019, 01:30 PM

Brees CAN run but once pressured out of the pocket he’s horrible. Our line stays healthy and it won’t be an issue.

AsylumGuido · 01-06-2019, 01:42 PM

Through the first half in today's game the running Lamar Jackson has looked like crap and is getting shutout by the extremely sedentary Rivers.

spkb25 · 01-06-2019, 01:46 PM

running QB's are not the same as a scrambling QB, IMHO. They are different. AR is more of a scrambler than a runner. He opens or buys time with his feet.

But to answer your question the answer is no. The NFL and people that are in media have been pushing that narrative for YEARSSSSS. It still hasn't come to fruition. QB's are meant to pass.

BTW look at the Ravens right now. Give me an effective passer every day of the week. If he is mobile as well, great. But I want the accurate, effective passer first.

And as someone else above said Drew is mobile and agile. He's not fast in the open field like vick, but he can create room by rolling out.

spkb25 · 01-06-2019, 01:48 PM

Plus, look at these moves. Come on now

Drew Brees Scrambles for TD - YouTube

K Major · 01-06-2019, 02:22 PM

At this level of football, you have to be able to somewhat stay in the pocket and make plays with your arm. Good D coordinators will figure out "running style" QB's. Jackson needs a lot of work to become a accurate passer.

We may see Flucco before this one is done.

spkb25 · 01-06-2019, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

At this level of football, you have to be able to somewhat stay in the pocket and make plays with your arm. Good D coordinators will figure out "running style" QB's. Jackson needs a lot of work to become a accurate passer.

We may see Flucco before this one is done.

they should have brought him off the bench already. Jackson, IMHO, is not starting material. It was great to ride it while you could but at this point, right now, you bring Joe back in and see what you got with the rest if this team

AsylumGuido · 01-06-2019, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

they should have brought him off the bench already. Jackson, IMHO, is not starting material. It was great to ride it while you could but at this point, right now, you bring Joe back in and see what you got with the rest if this team

It may be too late at this point. Jackson has got them too far into a hole.

01-07-2019, 11:49 AM	#1
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: If you haven’t noticed Originally Posted by skymike Hi Danno. been too long since I've been here. Good to see your posting. This didnt take long, and nails it. Running QB's are great, if you're playing Vanderbilt, in the Energizer Battery Bowl. They'll give you some flash and dash, and make some highlights, in game 3, or the Wild Card Round. They were big heroes in high school or college, but it doesnt play for the duration in the NFL. Case in point. I think you've heard the last of Cam Newton already. The QB position in the NFL should be a hub for all points on the field, and not just where your feet are. If you do not do this, you may win some games with your feet, but defenses will simply spy you out, eventually, or you'll take a beating and lose a step. You cannot win in the NFL at QB, if you cant read defense, and strike across the field. None of these wishbone guys are going to win the SB. Where the flock you been SM st thomas likes this.

01-06-2019, 11:17 AM	#2
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: If you haven’t noticed That's how you get your QB hurt. They run cuz they have to. When you throw w 76% accuracy and are sacked only 20 times all year long, you don't have to run. That's what Ingram and Kamara are for. Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk Halo, lumm0x, exiled and 11 others like this.
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01-06-2019, 01:25 PM	#3
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01-06-2019, 01:30 PM	#4
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01-06-2019, 01:42 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: If you haven’t noticed Through the first half in today's game the running Lamar Jackson has looked like crap and is getting shutout by the extremely sedentary Rivers.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: If you haven’t noticed running QB's are not the same as a scrambling QB, IMHO. They are different. AR is more of a scrambler than a runner. He opens or buys time with his feet. But to answer your question the answer is no. The NFL and people that are in media have been pushing that narrative for YEARSSSSS. It still hasn't come to fruition. QB's are meant to pass. BTW look at the Ravens right now. Give me an effective passer every day of the week. If he is mobile as well, great. But I want the accurate, effective passer first. And as someone else above said Drew is mobile and agile. He's not fast in the open field like vick, but he can create room by rolling out. saintfan, jnormand, st thomas and 1 others like this.
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01-06-2019, 02:22 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,868 Blog Entries: 3	Re: If you haven’t noticed At this level of football, you have to be able to somewhat stay in the pocket and make plays with your arm. Good D coordinators will figure out "running style" QB's. Jackson needs a lot of work to become a accurate passer. We may see Flucco before this one is done.

01-06-2019, 02:28 PM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: If you haven’t noticed Originally Posted by K Major At this level of football, you have to be able to somewhat stay in the pocket and make plays with your arm. Good D coordinators will figure out "running style" QB's. Jackson needs a lot of work to become a accurate passer. We may see Flucco before this one is done. they should have brought him off the bench already. Jackson, IMHO, is not starting material. It was great to ride it while you could but at this point, right now, you bring Joe back in and see what you got with the rest if this team st thomas, K Major and MarchingOn like this.

01-06-2019, 02:30 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: If you haven’t noticed Originally Posted by spkb25 they should have brought him off the bench already. Jackson, IMHO, is not starting material. It was great to ride it while you could but at this point, right now, you bring Joe back in and see what you got with the rest if this team It may be too late at this point. Jackson has got them too far into a hole. spkb25 and K Major like this.