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Obviously more weapons for Drew and depth on offensive line. I wonder if it’s worth dealing Armstead. Could we get anything for him, how would it effect our cap?
Who all is up for a new contract besides Thomas and Ingram?

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Apparently the Saints only offseason need is to kiss the Lillie white arse of Roger Goodell like Bob Kraft does...

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Payton already said he’s not trading Armstead. He said that their isn’t a LT in the league that he would take over him. I truly think he means it so you can forget about that. We have to address the TE position first and foremost and then WR.

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S, G, TE

We need to an impact talent at S. If it wasn't plays around the line of scrimmage, our S's are pretty much useless. Interior line depth who can take over in a year or so. A solid TE. I think Irv Smith Jr. would be a nice addition to our team on offense if we have a chance to nab him.

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The no call INT was really bad but the play that would have crushed it early on was the tasks punt. Everyone except the Saints is he’s realized it was a fake. Anyway, great season and on to the next one. We desperately need a Moore/Snead slot receiver whom we hope is Meredith. We really need a TE bad. That is a major weak spot. Not sure we can do a lot in the draft. I’m ready for another season. Doubt we’ll be the 1 seed but we can make the playoffs.

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It's going to be limited with what we can do in the draft.

I hope Cameron Meredith is ready next year he will be making 6m

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* Tre'Quan Smith needs to take a huge leap in his sophmore season.

* We need another weapon at TE.

*Running game needs work. Don't know if its OL or RB but it tailed off at the end of the season.

* Kick/Punt returner could be upgraded.

* Another speedy LB.

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A new ****ing NFL Commissioner.

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Don't flame me, but I'd include QB in there without hesitation.

I'm not trying to be negative, but Drew had a pretty crappy second half of the season if we are being honest.

After not throwing a pick for around 8 weeks, he then throws a pick in like 7 straight games.

Flip back to yesterday, Brees was missing wide open receivers all over the place, there were 2 consecutive third and long plays where he threw to a covered Dan Arnold when Tre'quan had come free over the middle with no defender, then Brees badly missed a wide open Ginn on the next play.

Inside the 10, just threw the ball at Thomas feet which stopped the clock.

His arm strength is waining and he's aint the gun slinger anymore, it's sad but teams play down more because they know we don't have much of a vertical passing game anymore.

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I'm too shot to even think about it now. Get back to me about the time the combine starts.

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The fix is in boys and girls. Our need is to get the commish fired! F-ing atrocious!

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Parting ways with Armstead is pointless.

Why get rid of of the best LT (at least from what I've seen) just to eat almost 10M in dead money? He's always hurt right :(? ....ok, then draft his replacement. There's no rule that we must get rid of TA before bringing in his eventual successor. The wise thing to do from many standpoints is to keep TA but be ready when he goes down mid season.

Then fast forward to 2020, you can either cut him or keep him if he made it though 2019 only missing a couple of games.

The answer is not always to get rid of a player immediately.

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We need a TE for certain. Maybe we can get JG back, but I don't think it would be the same. I also think we need another elite corner or a pass rusher. Is Apple the long-term solution? I think with a great TE, we could be fine with that, MT, TGJR, Kamara, and slot receiver that can stay healthy.

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In the playoffs you have to look beyond your top two receivers. Smith hasn't showed up. Looking at NE, Brady's throwing TDs to Dorsett. The two players who caught our TDs were Griffin and Hill, a QB. Smith should have never even been a factor given his recent track record. Whose to say Smith would have even caught that pass being open? Smith has to learn to create separation, something he didn't do on that TD play. But there was no one else. Carr and Kirkwood were both out. We sure as heck cannot trust TLH. So, who was left? our fullback and the aforementioned guys who caught TDs.

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Yes, I have been wanting us to draft extra oline help for a while now. I don't trust any of our starters to stay healthy an entire year, so we need backup depth. Ram can play LT if TA goes down, so just getting a simple OT is what we need. A RT might be best. OG is also a need.

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I’d like to see us go after WR Adam Humphries. Good slot receiver and punt returner.

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absolutely nothing, team is set for another run with or without Brees. I hope they are able to recover mentally from these two nfc championship games.

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TE
WR#2 (Golden Tate, DeSean Jackson)
OL depth
SS - K Coleman was swing and a miss ...unfortunately.

I hope we find a way to re sign Ingram.

Fingers crossed on a healthy return for Rankins and Patrick Robinson.

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Every year is a disastrous ending with this team, I love the Saints but it's ****ing murder watching heartbreak after heartbreak every year.

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I know what you mean. The stress alone might be what take me out. After the interception I had to turn the TV off and wait to hear about a 57 yard field goal. Of course I rewind it back to see how the defense was fighting them

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I’d also like to ditch Kurt Coleman and replace him with Tyrann Matthieu.

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If Cameron Meredith is back next year and makes an impact, Tre'Quan Smith develops like I think he will in the off-season, we find a decent pass catching TE, and Brees doesn't fall off the cliff..... I think we'll be the best team in the league and it won't even be close.

We need to also avoid injuries on the O-line...this obviously hurt us.

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Our only downfall. Things on O were record breaking good until Armstead went down. Could have kept going even with our current receivers. They may have developed even faster.

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I think our pass defense will improve with Patrick Robinson back too.

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Add 2 safeties to the list, cause Marcus Williams ain’t no Ed Reed. Sorry.

And a brick to keep Payton’s foot on the dang gas.

Killer instinct? Where’d it go the last 4-5 games of the season? Never was able to regain the scoring, and it wasn’t because of Ted Ginn Jr.

Dallas exposed us for whatever reason and we never recovered.

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Ready to move on after year 2 on Williams ?

Who do you have in mind? Earl Thomas? Clinton Dix? Tyrann?

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I don’t know but this dude is NEVER around the ball on a deep pass.

May not be his fault for all these Ed Reed comparisons during training camp, but he’s consistently coming in from 20 yards out just to get in on the play.

More receivers have dropped passes due to open field than by marcus williams

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2nd round: TE
5th: NT
6th: S
7th: OG

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Gotcha.

The reason I asked is because it's tricky for me to judge Marcus this season the way he was used playing single high safety. I don't know but of 2 NFL safeties in the league who can cover BOTH sides in today's game, especially the way a lot of QB's can move away with one look, then throw to the other side.

From my untrained eye, I see a player who is being used as a "last resort" and to not get beat deep with a TD rather than becoming the Ed Reed, ball hawking safety which his skill set was as described by analyst and scouts leading up to the draft.

I'm not down on Marcus just yet. I think he improves in year 3.

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Unless Payton is convinced Bridgewater is the future, I agree. But a once in a franchise history QB like Brees has to be given every chance to prove it was just a slump. I don't want him to leave anything on the table when he walks away.

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Its like that for pretty much all teams but one each year.

I'll throw in a little perspective for y'all, kinds born 2000 and later will pretty much all remember the Saints as one of the best franchises in the leauge, a SB win and multiple playoff runs, great players and records broken. That is what the Saints have become. The bad ol' days where the Saints were a laughingstock is gone.

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Do we re sign Ingram is the big question. I feel we will let him walk.

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I don't know if Drew has the deep ball anymore to compliment a player like DeSean. We always need a burner though and Ginn is getting older.

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I didn't mean the Saints should sign DJ literally ... just guys who will be available in FA this off season. We desperately need a solid #2 ... a guy who can get open. As you saw what happens when Thomas is doubled. Meredith, 3quan Smith, Kirkwood are still unproven & question marks. A guy like Tate solves a lot of issues.

I hope we have our eye on TE Jessie James from Pitt. Dan Arnold is too much of a "work in progress" for my taste.

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I don’t. I think he’s too important in the locker room and too good a compliment to Kamara. He knows his role as part of a duo and will probably be ok with a contract that reflects that.

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I hope the Front office can find a way. Remember these guys early on in 2018 ? ....

Jonathan Williams
Boston Scott
Shane Vareen
Terrance West
Mike Gillislee :rolleyes:

If for some reason Mark does walk, better have a solid Plan B to compliment AK in the run department.

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The usual talk of noodle arm Drew Brees. I've heard this discussion since 2010 (that's 9 years ago now).

When you're 2nd leading wide receiver is Kamara who is a runningback, that means we have 1 legit threat wide receiver. Dez Bryant getting hurt may have changed the outcome of many things.

Thomas and Dez (if he returns) makes 2 legit receivers... maybe.... We should carry 4 legit receivers. We also have backups at tight end. Free agency will be interesting.

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Go all out in free agency. We probably have one year left with Brees so I want to sign everyone possible who can contribute.

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Don't forget that we have Cameron Meredith that never got the opportunity to play fully healthy still under contract. As it was he caught 90% of his targets in his short time playing. Carr needs to go. He's become a waste of roster space. Kirkwood has potential and Smith needs to learn how to become more aggressive from Thomas.