Anyone still want Josh Rosen?

ScottF · 02-28-2019, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I thought Josh Allen would be the best QB of that class.

but Rosen's name is so much cooler:

Joshua Ballinger Lippincott Rosen

Crusader · 03-01-2019, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I thought Josh Allen would be the best QB of that class.

Well he still have plenty of time to become the best. For now its Mayfield in the drivers seat by a mile.

Darnold, Allen and Rosen all had pretty much the same stats passing. They all looked decent at times but they need more wapons around them.

jeanpierre · 04-23-2019, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I thought Josh Allen would be the best QB of that class.

It's only one season...

Remember, Brees was a mediocre play-action pass QB until he got to New Orleans. Nearly losing his ability to play, coupled with the devastation of H. Katrina he witnessed, gave him focus, perspective, made him who he is...

CheramieIII · 04-23-2019, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I thought Josh Allen would be the best QB of that class.

You still could be right but as it stands now he needs a new team to even give himself a chance.

jeanpierre · 04-23-2019, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

You still could be right but as it stands now he needs a new team to even give himself a chance.

If Buffalo will commit to Sean McDermott through 2021, and keep the same OC and/or QB Coach to develop Allen, maintain stability and cohesion, that is the one team that could knock the Patriots off the AFC East Perch...

The Fish (Miami) have an owner who has to be the smartest guy in the room; and don't forget, he's the guy that had the only adult in the room (Jeff Ireland) leave...

And about the best thing the Jets will have going for them is a SuperFan with an old style Fireman's hat; that team's decisions are ruled by day-to-day fan polls...

K Major · 02-28-2019, 07:37 AM

Kind of pre mature with the "bust" talk on Rosen. Before people dump on the kid, has anyone seen that offensive line he had in 2018? ... It's "offensive".

Does Kingsbury really expect the likes of a TINY Kyler Murray (if they select him) to save this team? That Cardinals O line has got to be one of, if not the worst in the league.

Build around him. They need help.

ScottF · 02-28-2019, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Kind of pre mature with the "bust" talk on Rosen. Before people dump on the kid, has anyone seen that offensive line he had in 2018? ... It's "offensive".

Does Kingsbury really expect the likes of a TINY Kyler Murray (if they select him) to save this team? That Cardinals O line has got to be one of, if not the worst in the league.

Build around him. They need help.

Hard to believe that the Klingsbury hiring will get them going in the right direction, and drafting Murray would be another step backwards

CHA_CHING · 02-28-2019, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Kind of pre mature with the "bust" talk on Rosen. Before people dump on the kid, has anyone seen that offensive line he had in 2018? ... It's "offensive".

Does Kingsbury really expect the likes of a TINY Kyler Murray (if they select him) to save this team? That Cardinals O line has got to be one of, if not the worst in the league.

Build around him. They need help.

Good points. I believe Rosen was put in a horrible situation being drafted by a team that is completely dysfunctional.

It could get better for him though. Remember Alex Smith in those early years with SF? Many of us thought he was a bust early on, yet as his career went on, he had some decent years. He even had a good year as a game manager in SF. Andy Reid got the best out of Smith IMO. Maybe Rosen could get a coach like Reid later on that helps him.

Rugby Saint II · 02-28-2019, 11:35 AM

Arizona...…..hey, at least it's not Cincinnati!

BakoSaint · 04-22-2019, 11:43 PM

Didn’t Drew Brees have a slow start his first couple years and get replaced by another QB in the draft? If Payton likes Rosen I think something could happen because I think after Arizona drafts Murray it is possible they could trade Rosen for a 2020 3rd round pick and a capable backup QB. Rookie Rosen is better than rookie Goff and Payton is better than McVay. Either of our backups would be good to pair with Murray. We dont have the picks to get an elite QB to replace Brees unless we shop second hand.

02-28-2019, 07:34 AM	#1
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I thought Josh Allen would be the best QB of that class. but Rosen's name is so much cooler: Joshua Ballinger Lippincott Rosen

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,050	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I thought Josh Allen would be the best QB of that class. Well he still have plenty of time to become the best. For now its Mayfield in the drivers seat by a mile. Darnold, Allen and Rosen all had pretty much the same stats passing. They all looked decent at times but they need more wapons around them.

04-23-2019, 01:37 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I thought Josh Allen would be the best QB of that class. It's only one season... Remember, Brees was a mediocre play-action pass QB until he got to New Orleans. Nearly losing his ability to play, coupled with the devastation of H. Katrina he witnessed, gave him focus, perspective, made him who he is...

04-23-2019, 02:48 PM	#4
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I thought Josh Allen would be the best QB of that class. You still could be right but as it stands now he needs a new team to even give himself a chance.

04-23-2019, 06:05 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? Originally Posted by CheramieIII You still could be right but as it stands now he needs a new team to even give himself a chance. If Buffalo will commit to Sean McDermott through 2021, and keep the same OC and/or QB Coach to develop Allen, maintain stability and cohesion, that is the one team that could knock the Patriots off the AFC East Perch... The Fish (Miami) have an owner who has to be the smartest guy in the room; and don't forget, he's the guy that had the only adult in the room (Jeff Ireland) leave... And about the best thing the Jets will have going for them is a SuperFan with an old style Fireman's hat; that team's decisions are ruled by day-to-day fan polls...
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02-28-2019, 07:37 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,844 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? Kind of pre mature with the "bust" talk on Rosen. Before people dump on the kid, has anyone seen that offensive line he had in 2018? ... It's "offensive". Does Kingsbury really expect the likes of a TINY Kyler Murray (if they select him) to save this team? That Cardinals O line has got to be one of, if not the worst in the league. Build around him. They need help. CHA_CHING likes this.

02-28-2019, 08:22 AM	#7
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? Originally Posted by K Major Kind of pre mature with the "bust" talk on Rosen. Before people dump on the kid, has anyone seen that offensive line he had in 2018? ... It's "offensive". Does Kingsbury really expect the likes of a TINY Kyler Murray (if they select him) to save this team? That Cardinals O line has got to be one of, if not the worst in the league. Build around him. They need help. Hard to believe that the Klingsbury hiring will get them going in the right direction, and drafting Murray would be another step backwards

02-28-2019, 06:14 PM	#8
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? Originally Posted by K Major Kind of pre mature with the "bust" talk on Rosen. Before people dump on the kid, has anyone seen that offensive line he had in 2018? ... It's "offensive". Does Kingsbury really expect the likes of a TINY Kyler Murray (if they select him) to save this team? That Cardinals O line has got to be one of, if not the worst in the league. Build around him. They need help. Good points. I believe Rosen was put in a horrible situation being drafted by a team that is completely dysfunctional. It could get better for him though. Remember Alex Smith in those early years with SF? Many of us thought he was a bust early on, yet as his career went on, he had some decent years. He even had a good year as a game manager in SF. Andy Reid got the best out of Smith IMO. Maybe Rosen could get a coach like Reid later on that helps him.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,424	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? Didn’t Drew Brees have a slow start his first couple years and get replaced by another QB in the draft? If Payton likes Rosen I think something could happen because I think after Arizona drafts Murray it is possible they could trade Rosen for a 2020 3rd round pick and a capable backup QB. Rookie Rosen is better than rookie Goff and Payton is better than McVay. Either of our backups would be good to pair with Murray. We dont have the picks to get an elite QB to replace Brees unless we shop second hand. foreverfan and MarchingOn like this.
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