Anyone still want Josh Rosen?

Beastmode · 04-23-2019, 05:11 AM

I recall Payton Manning's first year. When he screwed up (often) it was written off as rookie mistakes in that 3-13 season.

Brees was not the starter his rookie campaign. Doug Flutie commanded the ship. Brees didn't turn the corner for a few years. He wasn't written off either until the injury.

Mayfield was not the starter either. Then they had a coaching change mid season and a starting RB change in Chubb. Totally changed the dynamics of that team.

Rosen will be fine. He needs time to develop and a better organization. I agree though, he looks like a damp firecracker right now but not any different than Manning and Brees out the gate.

As for his hat politics, nobody cares about hats. I hate the hats of all teams we play.

Beastmode · 04-23-2019, 09:04 AM

Rosen was one of the top teen tennis players in the country. One point he was ranked 10th. Isn't Brees a damn good tennis player. Seems like I read that somewhere.

Obviously different sports but there is a connection with agility, accuracy, intelligence with QB and tennis.

AsylumGuido · 04-23-2019, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Rosen was one of the top teen tennis players in the country. One point he was ranked 10th. Isn't Brees a damn good tennis player. Seems like I read that somewhere.

Obviously different sports but there is a connection with agility, accuracy, intelligence with QB and tennis.

Yes. Brees was the top ranked player in the state of Texas and beat future professional Andy Roddick twice in tournaments.

K Major · 04-23-2019, 09:18 AM

It appears Rosen is already toast in AZ. The fact that "they want him gone" says a lot of how they feel about his play.

This close to the draft, everything we've read or heard could be a smokescreen.

To be continued ...

SmashMouth · 04-23-2019, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

It appears Rosen is already toast in AZ. The fact that "they want him gone" says a lot of how they feel about his play.

This close to the draft, everything we've read or heard could be a smokescreen.

To be continued ...

Beastmode · 04-23-2019, 09:42 AM

I would take Rosen over Bridgewater in a straight up trade. Know it won't happen but man, the kid has potential for a long time. Behind a Good line he's going to kill it.

rezburna · 04-23-2019, 12:31 PM

The coach that drafted Rosen is gone. I’m sure the new coach wants his own guy. Rosen has a really high ceiling. He’d be a good fit here in New Orleans. I’m still hoping Teddy pans out with another year learning the offense. If we traded for Rosen I’m positive Teddy walks next year. However, competition is part of the NFL. If we made a move for him I wouldn’t be upset.

jeanpierre · 04-23-2019, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The coach that drafted Rosen is gone. I’m sure the new coach wants his own guy. Rosen has a really high ceiling. He’d be a good fit here in New Orleans. I’m still hoping Teddy pans out with another year learning the offense. If we traded for Rosen I’m positive Teddy walks next year. However, competition is part of the NFL. If we made a move for him I wouldn’t be upset.

In all my years of watching football, I can tell you that of all the great players, maybe four or five were truly great in spite of the coach, the rest needed the right coach, system, and timing for it to fall together...

Do you really think Tom Brady or Joe Montana have the success they have with another team, another system, another coach?

rezburna · 04-23-2019, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

In all my years of watching football, I can tell you that of all the great players, maybe four or five were truly great in spite of the coach, the rest needed the right coach, system, and timing for it to fall together...

Do you really think Tom Brady or Joe Montana have the success they have with another team, another system, another coach?

When we agree, it’s 100%.

Beastmode · 04-23-2019, 01:29 PM

Could you imagine Brees retiring then we get Rosen who starts putting up Brees numbers. It would be the nastiest NFC South QB transition in history. We'd be set for another 15 years.

04-23-2019, 05:11 AM	#1
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? I recall Payton Manning's first year. When he screwed up (often) it was written off as rookie mistakes in that 3-13 season. Brees was not the starter his rookie campaign. Doug Flutie commanded the ship. Brees didn't turn the corner for a few years. He wasn't written off either until the injury. Mayfield was not the starter either. Then they had a coaching change mid season and a starting RB change in Chubb. Totally changed the dynamics of that team. Rosen will be fine. He needs time to develop and a better organization. I agree though, he looks like a damp firecracker right now but not any different than Manning and Brees out the gate. As for his hat politics, nobody cares about hats. I hate the hats of all teams we play. Crusader likes this.
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? Rosen was one of the top teen tennis players in the country. One point he was ranked 10th. Isn't Brees a damn good tennis player. Seems like I read that somewhere. Obviously different sports but there is a connection with agility, accuracy, intelligence with QB and tennis.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? Originally Posted by Beastmode Rosen was one of the top teen tennis players in the country. One point he was ranked 10th. Isn't Brees a damn good tennis player. Seems like I read that somewhere. Obviously different sports but there is a connection with agility, accuracy, intelligence with QB and tennis. Yes. Brees was the top ranked player in the state of Texas and beat future professional Andy Roddick twice in tournaments. Beastmode likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? It appears Rosen is already toast in AZ. The fact that "they want him gone" says a lot of how they feel about his play. This close to the draft, everything we've read or heard could be a smokescreen. To be continued ...

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,962 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? Originally Posted by K Major It appears Rosen is already toast in AZ. The fact that "they want him gone" says a lot of how they feel about his play. This close to the draft, everything we've read or heard could be a smokescreen. To be continued ...

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? I would take Rosen over Bridgewater in a straight up trade. Know it won't happen but man, the kid has potential for a long time. Behind a Good line he's going to kill it.
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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,114	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? The coach that drafted Rosen is gone. I’m sure the new coach wants his own guy. Rosen has a really high ceiling. He’d be a good fit here in New Orleans. I’m still hoping Teddy pans out with another year learning the offense. If we traded for Rosen I’m positive Teddy walks next year. However, competition is part of the NFL. If we made a move for him I wouldn’t be upset. Beastmode and MarchingOn like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? Originally Posted by rezburna The coach that drafted Rosen is gone. I’m sure the new coach wants his own guy. Rosen has a really high ceiling. He’d be a good fit here in New Orleans. I’m still hoping Teddy pans out with another year learning the offense. If we traded for Rosen I’m positive Teddy walks next year. However, competition is part of the NFL. If we made a move for him I wouldn’t be upset. In all my years of watching football, I can tell you that of all the great players, maybe four or five were truly great in spite of the coach, the rest needed the right coach, system, and timing for it to fall together... Do you really think Tom Brady or Joe Montana have the success they have with another team, another system, another coach? rezburna likes this.
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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,114	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? Originally Posted by jeanpierre In all my years of watching football, I can tell you that of all the great players, maybe four or five were truly great in spite of the coach, the rest needed the right coach, system, and timing for it to fall together... Do you really think Tom Brady or Joe Montana have the success they have with another team, another system, another coach? When we agree, it’s 100%. jeanpierre likes this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Anyone still want Josh Rosen? Could you imagine Brees retiring then we get Rosen who starts putting up Brees numbers. It would be the nastiest NFC South QB transition in history. We'd be set for another 15 years.
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