TE situation and Nate Wozniak

Papa Voodoo · 03-19-2019, 03:47 PM

https://webpages.uidaho.edu/~renaes/...%20ht%20wt.pdf

I know he is on the PS bulking up for OL duty. He may not even make the team at OL this year. Shouldn't we at least try him as a TE seeing what we have at the position? If we are going less vertical in the passing game then his speed becomes less of a factor as he could essentially box out a linebacker or, at minimum, require he be covered to open other receivers.

The average height of a linebacker is just over 6 feet. He has a 10" height advantage and about 40 pounds of mass.

How do we do what we do with Hill and not try something with Woz?

jeanpierre · 03-19-2019, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

https://webpages.uidaho.edu/~renaes/...%20ht%20wt.pdf

I know he is on the PS bulking up for OL duty. He may not even make the team at OL this year. Shouldn't we at least try him as a TE seeing what we have at the position? If we are going less vertical in the passing game then his speed becomes less of a factor as he could essentially box out a linebacker or, at minimum, require he be covered to open other receivers.

The average height of a linebacker is just over 6 feet. He has a 10" height advantage and about 40 pounds of mass.

How do we do what we do with Hill and not try something with Woz?

We tried him at TE already, and we determined he moved more like a Right Tackle than a Tight End; he just didn't have the movement skill-set to be a Tight End...

That's not to say we can't bring him along as we did with Zach Strief and develop him as our RT, put him in Jumbo sub-packages that'd make him a tackle-eligible...

That's a plan I'd be a big proponent of seeing the team execute...

The Dude · 03-19-2019, 10:23 PM

Put Taysom in as TE and be done with it.

jeanpierre · 03-19-2019, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Put Taysom in as TE and be done with it.

Taysom - Turbo Mode...

Rugby Saint II · 03-20-2019, 01:35 PM

I still have my fingers crossed hoping for Cook. We desperately need a release valve for Drew to check down to besides Kamara. If Watson had been on the field then the Rams might not have been embarrassed in the Super bowl and we could have another Lombardi.

K Major · 03-20-2019, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Put Taysom in as TE and be done with it.

In an emergency situation, all day every day.

Taysom got us out of some bad spots several times last year. Just a damn good football player willing to do whatever to help his team win.

Papa Voodoo · 03-20-2019, 01:48 PM

I think there's a limit to how much Hill can process at once. QB alone is tremendous. You all have made some very valid points and I understand he can't play the traditional TE position like Watson. I still want to see Woz give it a go. He doesn't need to move very well, he needs to get to a certain point at a certain time and box out/jump ball the pass like a center in basketball. He'd draw coverage every time.

ScottF · 03-20-2019, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

I think there's a limit to how much Hill can process at once. QB alone is tremendous. You all have made some very valid points and I understand he can't play the traditional TE position like Watson. I still want to see Woz give it a go. He doesn't need to move very well, he needs to get to a certain point at a certain time and box out/jump ball the pass like a center in basketball. He'd draw coverage every time.

true, but Teddy re-upping pretty much means Hill is not the heir apparent, so he can focus on other areas. Hill will be 29 when the year starts.

Not saying he's the answer at TE either, but for his 2-3 snaps per game at QB he usually only has two reads

The Dude · 03-20-2019, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

true, but Teddy re-upping pretty much means Hill is not the heir apparent, so he can focus on other areas. Hill will be 29 when the year starts.

Not saying he's the answer at TE either, but for his 2-3 snaps per game at QB he usually only has two reads

Maybe not. I’m not saying Hill is the answer at QB but I’m equally as unsure about Teddy. He could be a wild card Payton is keeping in his pocket as a commodity.

vpheughan · 03-20-2019, 11:27 PM

Hill will be 29!!!?? That's entirely too old to be a QB!!
Only Brees, Brady, Favre, Flutie, Moon, DeBerg, Morrall, Testaverde, Brunell and Blanda can be a QB in their 40's!!

03-19-2019, 03:47 PM	#1
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	TE situation and Nate Wozniak https://webpages.uidaho.edu/~renaes/...%20ht%20wt.pdf I know he is on the PS bulking up for OL duty. He may not even make the team at OL this year. Shouldn't we at least try him as a TE seeing what we have at the position? If we are going less vertical in the passing game then his speed becomes less of a factor as he could essentially box out a linebacker or, at minimum, require he be covered to open other receivers. The average height of a linebacker is just over 6 feet. He has a 10" height advantage and about 40 pounds of mass. How do we do what we do with Hill and not try something with Woz? Thirty3 likes this.

03-19-2019, 05:29 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: TE situation and Nate Wozniak Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo https://webpages.uidaho.edu/~renaes/...%20ht%20wt.pdf I know he is on the PS bulking up for OL duty. He may not even make the team at OL this year. Shouldn't we at least try him as a TE seeing what we have at the position? If we are going less vertical in the passing game then his speed becomes less of a factor as he could essentially box out a linebacker or, at minimum, require he be covered to open other receivers. The average height of a linebacker is just over 6 feet. He has a 10" height advantage and about 40 pounds of mass. How do we do what we do with Hill and not try something with Woz? We tried him at TE already, and we determined he moved more like a Right Tackle than a Tight End; he just didn't have the movement skill-set to be a Tight End... That's not to say we can't bring him along as we did with Zach Strief and develop him as our RT, put him in Jumbo sub-packages that'd make him a tackle-eligible... That's a plan I'd be a big proponent of seeing the team execute... SmashMouth likes this.

03-19-2019, 10:23 PM	#3
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: TE situation and Nate Wozniak Put Taysom in as TE and be done with it. RockyMountainSaint, SmashMouth, Beastmode and 1 others like this.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: TE situation and Nate Wozniak Originally Posted by The Dude Put Taysom in as TE and be done with it. Taysom - Turbo Mode... SmashMouth likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: TE situation and Nate Wozniak I still have my fingers crossed hoping for Cook. We desperately need a release valve for Drew to check down to besides Kamara. If Watson had been on the field then the Rams might not have been embarrassed in the Super bowl and we could have another Lombardi.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: TE situation and Nate Wozniak Originally Posted by The Dude Put Taysom in as TE and be done with it. In an emergency situation, all day every day. Taysom got us out of some bad spots several times last year. Just a damn good football player willing to do whatever to help his team win.

03-20-2019, 01:48 PM	#7
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	Re: TE situation and Nate Wozniak I think there's a limit to how much Hill can process at once. QB alone is tremendous. You all have made some very valid points and I understand he can't play the traditional TE position like Watson. I still want to see Woz give it a go. He doesn't need to move very well, he needs to get to a certain point at a certain time and box out/jump ball the pass like a center in basketball. He'd draw coverage every time.

03-20-2019, 02:26 PM	#8
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: TE situation and Nate Wozniak Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo I think there's a limit to how much Hill can process at once. QB alone is tremendous. You all have made some very valid points and I understand he can't play the traditional TE position like Watson. I still want to see Woz give it a go. He doesn't need to move very well, he needs to get to a certain point at a certain time and box out/jump ball the pass like a center in basketball. He'd draw coverage every time. true, but Teddy re-upping pretty much means Hill is not the heir apparent, so he can focus on other areas. Hill will be 29 when the year starts. Not saying he's the answer at TE either, but for his 2-3 snaps per game at QB he usually only has two reads Papa Voodoo likes this.

03-20-2019, 06:22 PM	#9
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: TE situation and Nate Wozniak Originally Posted by ScottF true, but Teddy re-upping pretty much means Hill is not the heir apparent, so he can focus on other areas. Hill will be 29 when the year starts. Not saying he's the answer at TE either, but for his 2-3 snaps per game at QB he usually only has two reads Maybe not. I’m not saying Hill is the answer at QB but I’m equally as unsure about Teddy. He could be a wild card Payton is keeping in his pocket as a commodity.
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03-20-2019, 11:27 PM	#10
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: TE situation and Nate Wozniak Hill will be 29!!!?? That's entirely too old to be a QB!! Only Brees, Brady, Favre, Flutie, Moon, DeBerg, Morrall, Testaverde, Brunell and Blanda can be a QB in their 40's!!
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