2019 Saints NFL Draft

jeanpierre · 04-26-2019, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Could see a Peat trade if there's someone they want. Though I don't like the idea of two new starters on the libe

I'd like to see three younger starters on the line, they'll figure out the chemistry when they're younger anyways; veterans you have to dance around their feelings, personal space as they get entitled...

jeanpierre · 04-26-2019, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I can’t argue with the pick. The best Wr’s in the league can’t do **** if the O line can’t keep the Qb off the ground, block, make holes, and snap without fumbling. I’ll take that pick all day. He will be very solid as a backup when something happens to Armstead. They can shuffle Easton and plug him right in. I’m happy.

Wide Receivers and Running Backs are only as valuable as their fit into a system, and most don't have a long shelf life anyhow; they're maybe four, five exceptions at any given time during a giving era/decade...

Most are actually plug and play, now - it really is about the coaching, staff, scouting, GM...

jeanpierre · 04-26-2019, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I hear ya. Can you imagine how bad it might’ve been this season though with a crappy center?

We survived pretty well from 2010-2013 with Brian de la Puente at center (And please don't misinterpret this as a knock on Erik McCoy)...

Wonder if Easton was apprised of the situation when he signed or if he got a reassurance phone call from Coach Payton that he'd get a fair shot at the job...

jeanpierre · 04-26-2019, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

As much as I agree that those positions need addressing, the team failed last year because the offense couldn't convert in times of need. As soon as teams started taking Kamara and Thomas out of the game, we relied on guys like Kirkwood, Tre'Quan, Carr, Lewis and Arnold - who all proved that they could not compete come playoff time.

Only guy that helped us was Ted Ginn, but those guys had a ton of opportunities to be "the" guy in crunch time and failed.

That's why I think another WR is very high on our list of needs.

With the exception of Tommylee, everyone of those guys you named have one thing in common - they were all in their first full season in the NFL...

Now they've got a full season and a full offseason, now no longer starstruck, go into the office each day with Hey, Drew instead of OMG, I can't believe that's Drew Brees...

Everyone of those guys except for the diminutive Tommylee Lewis who can't offer sh!t on punt returns (or doesn't really want to) will likely make this team and make some impressive plays on the Run to the Lombardi...

jeanpierre · 04-26-2019, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Top 10 fastest OL in the 40-yard dash at 2019 NFL Combine

Anyone care to guess who the fastest O lineman was ???

https://www.raiders.com/video/top-10...19-nfl-combine

Freakish speed for a big man.

With linemen, I'm more concerned with their bench press, 3-cone, and shuttle times...

McCoy was solid in the Bench Press, but just okay in the lateral skills which is a little concerning as several of his scouting reports suggests he struggles in finishing combo-blocks, second tier blocks...

Besides, if you're linemen is running a 40, it's likely someone's turn the ball over and he's trying to stop a pick-six...

Hopefully Roushar and company can coach better technique to maske those deficiencies in his game; with the investment, he needs to be starting by Week 1...

K Major · 04-26-2019, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

With linemen, I'm more concerned with their bench press, 3-cone, and shuttle times...

Video was posted simply to show how athletic the kid is for his size.

Nothing more. Solid addition made by the Saints

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jeanpierre · 04-26-2019, 10:36 PM

So Kiper and McShay loved what we did???

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SmashMouth · 04-26-2019, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

But we had Unger in the playoffs.

Unger was not the same Unger from earlier in the season. He retired as a result.We'll be better on the OL.

jeanpierre · 04-26-2019, 10:44 PM

We couldn't sign this guy to a 24-hour contract and let him retire as a Saints so he can announce a pick for us every year like this? Now this is how a retired NFL lifer should come to the podium...

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Utah_Saint · 04-26-2019, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Unger was not the same Unger from earlier in the season. He retired as a result.We'll be better on the OL.

Point was, we had a starting center. When Unger retired, priorities changed.

04-26-2019, 10:01 PM	#291
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft Originally Posted by lee909 Could see a Peat trade if there's someone they want. Though I don't like the idea of two new starters on the libe I'd like to see three younger starters on the line, they'll figure out the chemistry when they're younger anyways; veterans you have to dance around their feelings, personal space as they get entitled...

04-26-2019, 10:03 PM	#292
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft Originally Posted by The Dude I can’t argue with the pick. The best Wr’s in the league can’t do **** if the O line can’t keep the Qb off the ground, block, make holes, and snap without fumbling. I’ll take that pick all day. He will be very solid as a backup when something happens to Armstead. They can shuffle Easton and plug him right in. I’m happy. Wide Receivers and Running Backs are only as valuable as their fit into a system, and most don't have a long shelf life anyhow; they're maybe four, five exceptions at any given time during a giving era/decade... Most are actually plug and play, now - it really is about the coaching, staff, scouting, GM...

04-26-2019, 10:08 PM	#293
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I hear ya. Can you imagine how bad it might’ve been this season though with a crappy center? We survived pretty well from 2010-2013 with Brian de la Puente at center (And please don't misinterpret this as a knock on Erik McCoy)... Wonder if Easton was apprised of the situation when he signed or if he got a reassurance phone call from Coach Payton that he'd get a fair shot at the job...

04-26-2019, 10:18 PM	#294
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft Originally Posted by dizzle88 As much as I agree that those positions need addressing, the team failed last year because the offense couldn't convert in times of need. As soon as teams started taking Kamara and Thomas out of the game, we relied on guys like Kirkwood, Tre'Quan, Carr, Lewis and Arnold - who all proved that they could not compete come playoff time. Only guy that helped us was Ted Ginn, but those guys had a ton of opportunities to be "the" guy in crunch time and failed. That's why I think another WR is very high on our list of needs. With the exception of Tommylee, everyone of those guys you named have one thing in common - they were all in their first full season in the NFL... Now they've got a full season and a full offseason, now no longer starstruck, go into the office each day with Hey, Drew instead of OMG, I can't believe that's Drew Brees... Everyone of those guys except for the diminutive Tommylee Lewis who can't offer sh!t on punt returns (or doesn't really want to) will likely make this team and make some impressive plays on the Run to the Lombardi...
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04-26-2019, 10:31 PM	#295
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft Originally Posted by K Major Top 10 fastest OL in the 40-yard dash at 2019 NFL Combine Anyone care to guess who the fastest O lineman was ??? https://www.raiders.com/video/top-10...19-nfl-combine Freakish speed for a big man. With linemen, I'm more concerned with their bench press, 3-cone, and shuttle times... McCoy was solid in the Bench Press, but just okay in the lateral skills which is a little concerning as several of his scouting reports suggests he struggles in finishing combo-blocks, second tier blocks... Besides, if you're linemen is running a 40, it's likely someone's turn the ball over and he's trying to stop a pick-six... Hopefully Roushar and company can coach better technique to maske those deficiencies in his game; with the investment, he needs to be starting by Week 1... Rsanders24 likes this.
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04-26-2019, 10:34 PM	#296
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,852 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre With linemen, I'm more concerned with their bench press, 3-cone, and shuttle times... Video was posted simply to show how athletic the kid is for his size. Nothing more. Solid addition made by the Saints . jeanpierre likes this.

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04-26-2019, 10:37 PM	#298
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,038 Blog Entries: 29	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft Originally Posted by Utah_Saint But we had Unger in the playoffs. Unger was not the same Unger from earlier in the season. He retired as a result.We'll be better on the OL. Rsanders24, jeanpierre, K Major and 1 others like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft We couldn't sign this guy to a 24-hour contract and let him retire as a Saints so he can announce a pick for us every year like this? Now this is how a retired NFL lifer should come to the podium... Twitter MarchingOn likes this.

04-26-2019, 10:48 PM	#300
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: 2019 Saints NFL Draft Originally Posted by SmashMouth Unger was not the same Unger from earlier in the season. He retired as a result.We'll be better on the OL. Point was, we had a starting center. When Unger retired, priorities changed.