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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; In the late seventies Pepsi launched a famous marketing campaign known as the Pepsi challenge. Blindfolded consumers took a sip of Pepsi and one of Coke and were then asked to make a choice. Pepsi beat Coke hands down, or ...
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06-16-2005, 02:49 PM | #1 |
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Pepsi vs Coke... a Saints taste test challenge
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06-16-2005, 04:22 PM | #2 |
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RE: Pepsi vs Coke... a Saints taste test challenge
Good point, I guess. People don't know what they've got 'til it's gone. Then again, I think the Governor has mostly played the Saints situtation wisely. Legislators have screwed it up. Blanco isn't perfect - far from it - but she's volleying with Tom Benson better than just about any other Governor ever before.
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RE: Pepsi vs Coke... a Saints taste test challenge
I think if you ask people do they favor subsidies or paymnets to ANY successful business you'll get the exact same results as asking them about the Saints, probably even worse.
How about an up or down vote on directly giving our money to ANY business in this state, whether its tax breaks or incentives? Ha, probably not gonna see that one eh? "Corporate welfare? Fine, as long as it isn't the Saints"! Transparent. |
06-16-2005, 04:58 PM | #4 |
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RE: Pepsi vs Coke... a Saints taste test challenge
Here's another question.
Do you think the State should take the 15 million they promised someone else and spend it on a hot-air balloon race and an Oil and Gas museum? |
06-16-2005, 05:01 PM | #5 |
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Here's yet another one.
Should the state allocate the 8/10,000ths of their yearly budget to honor their previous agreement? |
06-16-2005, 05:03 PM | #6 |
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RE: Pepsi vs Coke... a Saints taste test challenge
Here's yet another one.
Do you think bickering with the Saints is simply a diversion by politicians to distract attention away from the largest state budget in Louisiana history? |
06-16-2005, 05:06 PM | #7 |
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RE: Pepsi vs Coke... a Saints taste test challenge
Here's yet another one.
If I gave you 100 dollars, and you gave me 1000 dollars in return, did I really just give away 100 dollars. |
06-16-2005, 06:32 PM | #8 |
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RE: Pepsi vs Coke... a Saints taste test challenge
...all some great points. I think what people have a problem with is these payments and then being asked to upgrade the Dome or new one. Benson isnt going to take the money and fix up the Dome... why? its not his Dome! NFL needs to step in and tell Benso to give up the payments and let the state spend that money on fixing up the dome.
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06-16-2005, 07:32 PM | #9 |
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RE: Pepsi vs Coke... a Saints taste test challenge
Sometimes you can't afford coke or pepsi so you buy the 12 pack of BigShot.
Benson is definitely asking too much, too much even if he were in a larger market area, but he is the owner and he can do just that at the risk of losing business. Blanco is confined by lack of money, a poor system that blows previous outlets for the money, and trying to maintain a political image. (I do want to add here that a contract is a contract, and all the bs that has come up about NO fronting the money for the payments, esp after not giving NO the money owed from Harrah's taxes, is a huge bucket o bs) So....my point which is now all mixed up, is that at the end of the day Benson will charge whatever he wishes for his product (whether right or wrong) and when the state reaches into its tattered pocket that continuously loses change through the worn out holes, it just be a matter of not having the money at which point the po state of LA will turn to the other machine and purchase a BigShot or Arena Football. Hopefully, Blanco can mend the pockets a little bit to keep this from happening. The hardest job of a politician who truly wants to make a difference is not to keep filling its pocket with change but fix the holes and change the system. It doesn't happen often, and I don't think it's going to happen too soon in LA. |
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RE: Pepsi vs Coke... a Saints taste test challenge
.. I knew that dribble sounded familiar...
.. I digress... ... I would say this... in the past 20 or so years, the State of Louisiana has lost businesses 1000 times over what the Saints bring, and it is still standing (somewhat)... losing the Saints is not going to kill the State... and who knows, maybe there will be more conventions lined up during those 8 weekends a year that would actually offset the loss, maybe it'd even be a better deal for the State, who knows... ... it's not like New Orleans would be losing Mardi Gras or the Sugar Bowl.. ... now, don't get me wrong, it's not like I want to see the Saints leave... but I cannot see where the demands for more money and consessions are going to stop, because a) a new stadium is NOT going to magically bring new money, but simply squeeze more money out of the current fan and b) those 15,000,000 dollars a year are just not going to cut it in the NFL's financial world in 3-4 years... ..keeping with the analogy, people didn't like new coke because it sucked, and no one likes things that suck.. kinda like 8-8's... |