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Old 05-15-2019, 11:26 PM   #1
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Re: Sean Payton optimistic about David Onyemata's status; Saints player cited for pot possession



Maybe he was conned into having a package delivered with the doobie, ya right
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Old 05-16-2019, 02:33 AM   #3
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The article says he had hemp powder. Hemp powder is legal in all 50 states and can legally be shipped by USPS anywhere in the country as long as it has less .03% THC. The hemp is bred so it has high levels of CBD but very little THC. You can walk into stores in New Orleans and get it. Hopefully the oil was CBD oil and the ounces were hemp flower buds. Hemp flower buds are identical to marijuana but also have higher levels of CBD and less than .03% THC. They police can test it to find out.
It very well have been the real deal but it’s 2019. States are dropping this draconian law one by one. One day they will admit that while opiates and benzodiazepines are great for the pharmaceutical companies they are horrible for patients. A little pot can work wonders for pain, anxiety and depression and is a much safer alternative than the above.
The XFL isn’t testing for it. About the only good idea they have had.
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The article says he had hemp powder. Hemp powder is legal in all 50 states and can legally be shipped by USPS anywhere in the country as long as it has less .03% THC. The hemp is bred so it has high levels of CBD but very little THC. You can walk into stores in New Orleans and get it. Hopefully the oil was CBD oil and the ounces were hemp flower buds. Hemp flower buds are identical to marijuana but also have higher levels of CBD and less than .03% THC. They police can test it to find out.
It very well have been the real deal but it’s 2019. States are dropping this draconian law one by one. One day they will admit that while opiates and benzodiazepines are great for the pharmaceutical companies they are horrible for patients. A little pot can work wonders for pain, anxiety and depression and is a much safer alternative than the above.
The XFL isn’t testing for it. About the only good idea they have had.
Agree with everything in this post!

Just because a citation was given it doesn't mean anything illegal took place.
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The question that alarms me - what prompted law enforcement to conduct this search of his premises?!?
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Legality has zero to do with employer policy enforcement and isn't an applicable argument. You can argue it, but it wont hold water. To AG's point a judge has yet to rule on whether he was guilty of a crime or that the search was legal.

Texas has no motorcycle helmet law other than having to have sufficient insurance to ride without one, employers are perfectly within their right to require a helmet while riding on company property.

Open and conceal carry are legal in Texas with a permit, business owners and employers are within their legal right to post a sign forbidding either carry on their property.

Long hair and beards are legal in all 50 states, not if you are employed by a branch of the US military unless job description allows (special forces, etc...).

There are too many examples of how something being legal doesn't effect an employers ability to set and enforce policy against it.

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Legality has zero to do with employer policy enforcement and isn't an applicable argument. You can argue it, but it wont hold water. To AG's point a judge has yet to rule on whether he was guilty of a crime or that the search was legal.

Texas has no motorcycle helmet law other than having to have sufficient insurance to ride without one, employers are perfectly within their right to require a helmet while riding on company property.

Open and conceal carry are legal in Texas with a permit, business owners and employers are within their legal right to post a sign forbidding either carry on their property.

Long hair and beards are legal in all 50 states, not if you are employed by a branch of the US military unless job description allows (special forces, etc...).

There are too many examples of how something being legal doesn't effect an employers ability to set and enforce policy against it.
As The Dude pointed out, hemp-based products are legal in all 50 states, including Louisiana. The NFL's policy addresses Substances of Abuse (SOA), meaning certain listed substances found through drug testing, and Personal Conduct (PC), which would include legal action. As long as the products found prove to be hemp related as opposed to marijuana related then Onyemata has nothing to fear concerning the PC. As for the SOA angle, it doesn't appear that he has failed any drug test, and even if he had it would have only placed him in the league's "program" and would not be subject to any sort of suspension.

Honestly, it makes no sense to have both clearly hemp-based products AND MJ based products. Why not just MJ?

But the questions of why and who tried to make something out of what may end up being completely above board still remain.

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I hope the cops don't find out where I live. I'd never be able to play in the NFL if they drug test me for pot. It's medicinal of course!
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As The Dude pointed out, hemp-based products are legal in all 50 states, including Louisiana. The NFL's policy addresses Substances of Abuse (SOA), meaning certain listed substances found through drug testing, and Personal Conduct (PC), which would include legal action. As long as the products found prove to be hemp related as opposed to marijuana related then Onyemata has nothing to fear concerning the PC. As for the SOA angle, it doesn't appear that he has failed any drug test, and even if he had it would have only placed him in the league's "program" and would not be subject to any sort of suspension.

Honestly, it makes no sense to have both clearly hemp-based products AND MJ based products. Why not just MJ?

But the questions of why and who tried to make something out of what may end up being completely above board still remain.
The CBD in the MJ plant is the part that has the medicinal effect. It works great for pain, insomnia, anxiety etc. Actual MJ has high levels of THC and low level CBD. The THC is the part that is psychoactive. The hemp products on the other hand are bred to have high CBD content but low THC content. Basically you get more of the stuff that helps you relax/focus/sleep but doesn’t get you blazed.
It is surprising that he did have both instead of just MJ though. Hopefully it will all turn out to be the same thing.

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I have started trying a brand of CBD oil. It's helped my joints.
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