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SmashMouth 05-20-2019 07:25 PM
Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-gerald-mccoy/

ChrisXVI 05-20-2019 07:35 PM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
No doubt in my mind. Without Rankins it’s Onyemata and Mario Edwards at the 3-technique. Onyemata is good, but let’s take the Saints glasses off here... Mario Edwards stinks.

We tried to sign Ndamakong Suh last year when we had a full complement of healthy DT’s so I don’t know what would stop us from going after McCoy.

brees84 05-20-2019 07:52 PM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
Yes. Glad we don't have to face him twice a year (always played great against us). Now lets sign this dude and dominate opposing O-lines. With McCoy in Saints uniform there is some serious pass rush potential on Saints D-line.

Lord_Saint83 05-20-2019 08:03 PM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 845047)
No doubt in my mind. Without Rankins it’s Onyemata and Mario Edwards at the 3-technique. Onyemata is good, but let’s take the Saints glasses off here... Mario Edwards stinks.

We tried to sign Ndamakong Suh last year when we had a full complement of healthy DT’s so I don’t know what would stop us from going after McCoy.
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jeanpierre 05-20-2019 11:35 PM
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jeanpierre 05-20-2019 11:41 PM
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saintfan 05-20-2019 11:49 PM
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dizzle88 05-21-2019 01:53 AM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
Definitely!! Get it done Payton!!

Crusader 05-21-2019 04:00 AM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
YES!

From what I understand he and Brees gets along really well and have been training together in the offseason some years. That can only help.

SmashMouth 05-21-2019 06:51 AM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
Not so fast, my furry friends.

Quote:
Jason Collins says:
May 20, 2019 at 8:38 pm
2gurleys1kupp says:
May 20, 2019 at 8:26 pm
He’s going to an NFC South team so he can destroy the Bucs twice a year until he retires.

Geralds not destroying anybody. You obviously dont watch the NFC South or the Bucs. He gives up on plays where hes put blocked- and it happens a lot now, he’ll knock an opponent down – but tell them hes sorry and help them up, and hes not a “sack machine,” or a destoryer- at this stage hes there to absorb double teams. Hence the reason why hes not worth the $13 mil per year.

If he was a “destroyer,” the Bucs would have found a way to keep him…especially going without JPP for at least half- if not the whole year.
A Bucs fan opinion.

brees84 05-21-2019 07:35 AM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 845067)
Not so fast, my furry friends.



A Bucs fan opinion.


jeanpierre 05-21-2019 08:22 AM
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K Major 05-21-2019 09:32 AM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 845047)
No doubt in my mind. Without Rankins it’s Onyemata and Mario Edwards at the 3-technique. Onyemata is good, but let’s take the Saints glasses off here... Mario Edwards stinks.

We tried to sign Ndamakong Suh last year when we had a full complement of healthy DT’s so I don’t know what would stop us from going after McCoy.
IDK XVI,

He's no SUH but according to PFF (I don't treat it as the gospel) he graded out as an above avg lineman in 2018 with a limited amount of snaps with the Giants.

I think he'll be a decent, rotational back up piece to have.

He's only 25 and at 1.5MM, he's one hell of an "upside" for sacks.

X factor here - Ryan Nielsen. Coach em up!!!!

My Saints sunshades are off :p.

K Major 05-21-2019 09:38 AM
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But I get it ... you want to increase your chances of getting back to the Super Bowl, you get Gerald McKoy.

Saints have what 8.5M in the kitty? ...Maybe they are saving it for this guy.

jeanpierre 05-21-2019 10:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 845102)
But I get it ... you want to increase your chances of getting back to the Super Bowl, you get Gerald McKoy.

Saints have what 8.5M in the kitty? ...Maybe they are saving it for this guy.
We can create at least 15 mil in cap space expeditiously with just two-three contract restructures...

jeanpierre 05-21-2019 10:48 AM
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This would be impressive...

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 93 - Gerald McCoy (FA 2019), 98 - Sheldon Rankins

LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson/57 - Carl Granderson (UDFA 2019)

jeanpierre 05-21-2019 10:49 AM
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ChrisXVI 05-21-2019 10:51 AM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 845101)
IDK XVI,

He's no SUH but according to PFF (I don't treat it as the gospel) he graded out as an above avg lineman in 2018 with a limited amount of snaps with the Giants.

I think he'll be a decent, rotational back up piece to have.

He's only 25 and at 1.5MM, he's one hell of an "upside" for sacks.

X factor here - Ryan Nielsen. Coach em up!!!!

My Saints sunshades are off :p.
You’re right. To say he stinks is harsh. I just don’t want to rely on him is what I should say.

Rugby Saint II 05-21-2019 11:14 AM
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It would be a nice change to be glad to see him.....

brees84 05-21-2019 02:01 PM
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McCoy has one more reason to sign with the Saints

ScottF 05-21-2019 03:01 PM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 845107)
No, they didn't cut him to pay their draft picks, SW.


He was overpaid at 13, but they didn't do much better with Suh

SmashMouth 05-21-2019 03:10 PM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 845150)
No, they didn't cut him to pay their draft picks, SW.


He was overpaid at 13, but they didn't do much better with Suh
So... Suh wanted to play for the Lambs last year due to potential for a deep playoff run, according to the article. But the Lambs don't want him back now. And he is willing to go to the Bucs for another deep playoff run?

Source -- Bucs finalizing one-year deal with Suh

I don't think the Bucs pay Such $13 million.

CHA_CHING 05-21-2019 04:40 PM
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I've wanted McCoy here for years. He has nothing but respect for Brees and I think he'd add to our d-line being more aggressive.

jnormand 05-21-2019 07:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 845153)
So... Suh wanted to play for the Lambs last year due to potential for a deep playoff run, according to the article. But the Lambs don't want him back now. And he is willing to go to the Bucs for another deep playoff run?

Source -- Bucs finalizing one-year deal with Suh

I don't think the Bucs pay Such $13 million.
Suh is a merc. Period.

jeanpierre 05-21-2019 07:38 PM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 845109)
You’re right. To say he stinks is harsh. I just don’t want to rely on him is what I should say.
If Davenport doesn't get healthy, we will have to rely on him...

foreverfan 05-21-2019 07:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 845106)
This would be impressive...

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 93 - Gerald McCoy (FA 2019), 98 - Sheldon Rankins

LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson/57 - Carl Granderson (UDFA 2019)

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saintsfan1976 05-22-2019 06:33 AM
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go get him!!

vpheughan 05-22-2019 06:34 AM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
SOURCE!!!!!

DS AND THE MICKSTER HAVE TO SIGN THIS GUY! HE KNOWS EVERYTHING!!!! WHY, HE MAY BE A REAL FOOTBALL EGGSPURT!!!!

neugey 05-22-2019 09:29 AM
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I like McCoy, just do not give up the farm or give him the mother lode in guaranteed money.

jeanpierre 05-22-2019 03:22 PM
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jeanpierre 05-22-2019 04:57 PM
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WillSaints81 05-22-2019 07:44 PM
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We need to sign him because I am afraid TB is going to be a big problem.

jeanpierre 05-23-2019 12:59 PM
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ChrisXVI 05-23-2019 03:23 PM
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Ah man... He’s probably going to Cleveland.

K Major 05-23-2019 03:35 PM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 845315)
https://twitter.com/nfltrade_rumors/...47139493437440

Ah man... He’s probably going to Cleveland.
Money talks.

jeanpierre 05-23-2019 03:45 PM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
We have an idea of what his market will be...

Lord_Saint83 05-23-2019 05:12 PM
Re: Bucs Cut Gerald McCoy.... Should We?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 845318)
Money talks.

Yes it does but cleveland isn't going as deep in the playoffs as everyone thinks they are. I got them as a one and done wild card team.

K Major 05-23-2019 10:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neugey (Post 845200)
I like McCoy, just do not give up the farm or give him the mother lode in guaranteed money.
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jeanpierre 05-23-2019 11:44 PM
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jnormand 05-24-2019 12:02 AM
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I really don't think 11 million a year is that great of a deal. I think McCoy is good, but is he worth that? That's Cam Jordan money.


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